[Dan from Michigan]

I just called Debbie Stabenow's office as well. She needs to be offed politically in 06. Same with Lenin in 08.

And look at Rockefeller and Byrd's vote. In West Virginia? How many hunters there. And Feingold is two faced as always. Votes against the AWB, but gets the low profile ammo ban(WORSE) in. Kohl's at least consistantly bad. Bob Graham and BILL Nelson suck as usual. Dayton showed his true colors as well. The rest are the usual suspects.

This one is so hard-core, even Bingaman, Daschle, DeWine, and LEAHY voted against it.

Kerry (D-MA) - AYE

Kennedy - In a recent report, the ATF identified three, .223 and the 7.62 caliber rifles, as the ones most frequently encountered by police officers. These high-capacity rifles, the ATF wrote, pose an enhanced threat to law enforcement, in part because of their ability to expel particles at velocities that are capable of penetrating the type of soft body armor typically worn by law enforcement officers.

Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.

Link here

Kerry - I'm going to kick your sorry ass all over Michigan.

[Dan from Michigan]

BOOM

[KQQL]

Kerry showed up @ the senate..

The whole senate did a flip flop on the bill and killed it

[Dan from Michigan]

BTW - Let me clarify. ALL CENTERFIRE AMMO the AG says can penetrate body armor.

Maybe .22's would still be allowed under this........

[Texas Federalist]

What a freaking boob Chafee is! Will someone get him to switch parties. He's useless.

[Centurion2000]

Hmm ... they would not be stupid enough to try and confiscate that much ammo.

[Sir Gawain]

This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.

Cool! Makes me love my Winchester even more. Up yours, commies!

[Dead Dog]

7.62Xwhat? What a bunch of dumb f'&*s. .30x30? (That's a 7.62, as is all .30 cal). Yah, only because every freakin' self respecting 'neck has one (his grandaddy gave it to him). I've got two, one was my Grandads.

[Dog Gone]

I hate to demonstrate my ignorance for all to see, but what is centerfire ammo?

I own 7 guns, including a mini-14 that would have been effected by this amendment, but what makes its ammo "centerfire"?

[Indy Pendance]

These senators Kohl and Feingold are disgusting. Gad, they are losers! Why do the people of Wisconsin keep electing these liberals? argh! Let's investigate Kohl's gayness.....

[HBAR223]

Just to celebrate, I think I'll order some more.

[mystery-ak]

According to Kerry, his voting record is sacrosanct and not an issue in this election...all that matter is that he's a VN hero.

[RightthinkinAmerican]

Basically, you'd be allowed to keep your .22 - then when all criminals had was .22's and the statistics showed that .22's caused all the injuries, they'd take them too.

[GhostofWCooper]

"In a recent report, the ATF identified three, .223 and the 7.62 caliber rifles, as the ones most frequently encountered by police officers."

These are the most commonly available calibers in law enforcement and the military, and the type most patriots will want to keep. Ammo for other rifles might become scarce.

[jaz.357]

YEA-Clinton (D-NY)......

Because she likes RIM FIRE over centerfire?

[plain talk]

I'll ask the obvious question that so far no one has volunteered an explanation for. I understand its a ploy to grab guns etc But what I want to understand is the public rationale for which they were attempting to sell this ban of "centerfire" ammo.

[unspun]

Dear Mr. Kerry,
Say "goodbye" to the following Gore states:
Wisconsin, Minnesota, Missouri, Iowa.
Maybe Michigan and Main, too.
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[dmanLA]

It's time to spread this information to every gun owner in America!

Do you think the Dems have a chance with the Nascar crowd now?

Let's define Kerry before he defines Bush. Carry on!

[philetus]

Of course Kerry voted for Kennedys bill.
If he became Pres. he would do Kennedys bidding.

[Redbob]

But, but... Jeffords voted with US?
Olympia Snowe voted with US?
Arlen Specter, Mary Landrieu, & Whosit Voinovich of Ohio voted with the good guys!

Is the world coming to an end, is the apocalypse here?
/sarcasm

[TeleStraightShooter]

From the failed amendment:(iv) a projectile for a centerfire rifle, designed or marketed as having armor piercing capability, that the Attorney General determines, pursuant to section 926(d), to be more likely to penetrate body armor than standard ammunition of the same caliber.

Afew observations:
projectile: Ammo or bullets for reloading

designed or marketed: How does marketing make a bullet more likely to penetrate body armor?

more likely: what is standard? softpoint? if so, then any ball ammo {full metal jacket} would certainly be "more likely"

Virtually all Mosant Nagant 7.62x54 ammo could be outlawed since it is the "same caliber" as a 7.62x51 {.308} but 3mm more powder, not to mention those russian bullets are more than just lead under that FMJ.