William F. Buckley Jr.: Israel Frenzy - Neocons in the middle

National Review Online ^ | March 02, 2004 | William F. Buckley Jr.

[af_vet_1981]

"Why is it only Jews that you target by ethnicity or religion in your religious comments ?"

I dont answer pointless, erroneous troll-strawmen questions.

You introduced the topic. I could feel your love. I wanted to ascertain its source.

Next question?

I don't think you know the answer.

[Alberta's Child]

I think he wants you to 'fess up and admit that you were commander of the guard unit at Sobibor or Treblinka.

[sarasmom]

Waiting....
I dont cringe from the impotent accusations of annonymous internet ignorants who call me vile names.
Call it a gift, or call it an individual rejection of PC speech.
I frankly dont care what you call me.
You can't stifle me.

[sarasmom]

Thanks for trying to explain the inexplicable.
I am comfortable in knowing God will judge me.
I dont fear God's judgement of me.

[Imal]

'Sepsis' gets my vote. A wonderfully descriptive term in its context.

[Imal]

"I substituted a more honorable name for the targets of your gutter words."

I advise against putting words in other peoples' mouths.

If you've ever had it done to you, like I have, you'd know precisely why it's considered poor form.

If you can't make your point without resorting to such tactics, you don't have one.

[nopardons]

btt

[af_vet_1981]

I advise against putting words in other peoples' mouths.

Do you understand the use of italics in posted comments ? Did you read his comments ? Do you understand what is going on here ?

If you've ever had it done to you, like I have, you'd know precisely why it's considered poor form.

Do you think if good form to target Jews with gutter names and later feign he did not know they are Jews ? Do you have something inspiring to say about that ?

If you can't make your point without resorting to such tactics, you don't have one.

I have made my point. He has made my point. You are making my point. It is plain as day and night, light and darkness.

[Imal]

The road you walk is your own to choose.

[af_vet_1981]

The road you walk is your own to choose.

Yep, one can remain silent or one can remember it's Purim.

[Robert_Paulson2]

WHY? (perhaps I am misunderstanding your assertions but...)
Why would our defense leadership, and state department be influenced by israel, or jews? Why would we even listen?

I think it is plausible however to believe we have been greatly influenced and controlled by arabists.. because they control the world's oil. The source of their power? Blackmail over oil resources.
Not the Israelis. They control what resource?
Your assertion makes no strategic or political sense. But we hear it from arab supporters and apologists all the time... whining screaming, demanding that Israel is calling the shots in the USA.

Israel is our ally. That is the extent of our relationship.
Closer than Canada, but not as close as Britain.

The only resource that Israel controls here is the hearts and minds of conservative, largely Christian evangelicals, who support them with votes for Pro Israel candidates whenever they can. That won't be changing anytime soon. Get over it. Israel is not our enemy.

[NutCrackerBoy]

Sepsis gets my vote. A wonderfully descriptive term in its context.

The Bush administration arrived at the conviction that the sepsis of which the 9/11 attack was a single, lethal thrust was a variant of the Islamic fundamentalism that had taken over the country of Afghanistan and almost certainly was festering in Iraq. -William F. Buckley Jr.

a toxic condition resulting from the spread of bacteria or their products from a focus of infection

As my brother is wont to tell me, metaphors break down. But how else to describe it? Apocalyptic Islamist cells connected to terror masters in control of Iran, to strongholds within Pakistani intelligence, funded by millions from the House of Saud?

Surely these almost insignificant-seeming individual terrorist cells are not our enemy! An invisible hand guides their movements. How to strike that hand? The madrassas still churning out more than enough committed Islamists to be turned into soldiers for the cause.

[JohnGalt]

Phonycon,

Insinuating that I am an anti-Semite is an example of the pathetic and intellectual divoid method of engagement discussed in this article. Suggesting that somehow Dave Frum is a girlish phony because he lacks the courage to go all the way in leveling the charge, is certainly your prerogative, but as you read on that thread, several other folks were fully aware of what Frum was up to.

[TopQuark]

Are there other Jewish members of the Bush Administration you are including ?

Don't be silly, Vet: our Vice-President, Secretary of State, Rice --- all are Jewish, didn't you know? Most of of the State Department is on Israeli payroll -- that is why they so vigorously support Palestinians.

Ask Alberta Child --- she'll provide you with ample evidence, including the date when Bush converted to Judaism.

[TopQuark]

Phonycon,

Johny, you should stop taling until you grow up a little and learn to think. I have not stated on this thread a single view that would allow you even begin to assess where on political/cultural spectrum I am.

The ease with which you throw accusations only shows once more that you have no respect for either Amerian tradition or Judeo-Christian values.

Insinuating that I am an anti-Semite I did not insinuate anything. I merely pointed out that you (i) cannot read, (ii) like to shoot yourself in the foot --- by deliberately misquoting an article and then providing a link to it, and (iii) are a liar, sir.

Regarding the last point, I asked whether the falsehood you perpetrated was inadvertent, and hence a mistake, or deliberate, and hence a lie. You confirmed, in the usual to you manner of uncommon clarity, that it was deliberate.

You are not a Christian --- you violate Commandments all too easily to be one. You are not Ameican, no matter what your birth certificate says -- you spit on our traditions all too easily. You are a liar --- as demonstrated on this thread.

Now, Johny, go to bed and in the future vent your anger at the Jooos eslewhere.

[JohnGalt]

Phonycon is the only word to describe folks like yourself. You lack both courage to defend points of view in any manner of intellectual honesty and anytime you get into trouble you pull out the anti-Semite branding iron.

Any serious person who knows Frum's history of character assassination knows what he is up to. Since you seem to be a bright and capable poster, we both know not only what Frum was up to, but what you are up to when you began this interaction suggesting I meant 'Jew-boy' instead of the 'Little Frummer Boy.' That leap in logic is beyond stupidity, and thus its only logical that you know darn well what you are doing and what tactics you are employing in the exchange.

You are an intellectual coward, and your cowardice has given the battlefield back to real conservatives.

Now go turn on the porn magnate's TV network and take the pain away.

[TopQuark]

take the pain away.

:):):):)

[af_vet_1981]

Don't be silly, Vet: our Vice-President, Secretary of State, Rice --- all are Jewish, didn't you know? Most of of the State Department is on Israeli payroll -- that is why they so vigorously support Palestinians. Ask Alberta Child --- she'll provide you with ample evidence, including the date when Bush converted to Judaism.

No, neither President Bush nor any of the rest converted to become Jews. Rather we have adopted them as Righteous Gentiles according to the their works.

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