Posted on 03/02/2004 1:54:09 AM PST by conservativefromGa
Senate Bill 1805
Debate continues this morning @ 9:30am on C-Span2
Amendments will be voted on around 11:30am (including AWB, and gunshow "loophole"
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I wish I knew how this worked. I think it now goes back to the original senate bill S.659.
Good news, compared with the alternative. Too bad the firearms industry will have to tough it out in courts, but so far, that fight is going at least "okay."
S.659 is still pending and could be brought to the Senate floor. However, I think Feinstein got the AWB amendment added to that one in committee, so it's no good.
There's also S.1806, which is an untouched version that was submitted with S.1805. If that one could pass a cloture vote and be restricted to very short debate and no amendments, it could be passed cleanly. However, if it gets another 30 hours of debate with the floor open to amendments, then expect it to get poisoned the same way this one did.
And, any Senator could throw the original bill in the hoppper and try again, with a new S.xxxx number.
It might be better to wait until next year on this issue, and kick some RINOs out and replace them with reasonable, conservative Senators.
Senate Democrats Score Wins on Gun Bill
Tuesday, March 02, 2004
WASHINGTON — The Senate voted Tuesday to extend for another decade a ban on military-style assault weapons and to require background checks on buyers at private gun shows, giving Democrats rare victories on gun legislation that would also deny crime victims the ability to sue gunmakers and dealers.
Democratic presidential contenders John Kerry (search) of Massachusetts and John Edwards (search) of North Carolina broke away from the Super Tuesday campaign trail to cast votes — their first of the year — with the 52-47 majority on the assault weapons ban and the 53-46 majority on the gun show bill.
The White House had preferred both Democratic bills be kept off the legislation immunizing the gun industry from liability suits, the National Rifle Association's (search) top priority this year.
"The semiautomatic ban, the gun show loophole, a variety of other kinds of issues could simply drag this bill down and deny us substantial tort reform," said Republican Sen. Larry Craig (search) of Idaho, the bill's main sponsor who voted against both measures.
House leaders said last year that they did not intend to renew the ban on the manufacture and importation of at least 19 types of common military-style assault weapons (search). Senate GOP leaders also argued against the ban, saying it was ineffective and unnecessary and could cause the House to kill the gunmaker immunity bill.
But with the help of a few Senate Republicans, including Senate Armed Services Chairman John Warner of Virginia, Democrats were able to get enough votes to approve the ban extension.
A few Republicans also voted with the Democrats to close the "gun show loophole." Under current law, unlicensed gun dealers at private shows are not required to ask for government background checks before selling weapons. Democrats and a few Republicans argued that loopholes allows people who normally wouldn't be able to buy guns get dangerous weapons.
"Criminals and terrorists are exploiting this obvious loophole in our gun safety laws," said Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona.
The appearance of Kerry and Edwards in the Senate for their first votes of the year underscored the political overtones of the assault weapons issue. Most Democrats voted for the ban, which had been due to expire Sept. 13, while most Republicans voted against it.
Ten Republicans broke party ranks: Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, Susan Collins of Maine, Mike DeWine of Ohio, Peter Fitzgerald of Illinois, Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, Richard Lugar of Indiana, Gordon Smith of Oregon, Olympia Snowe of Maine, George Voinovich of Ohio and John Warner of Virginia.
Six Democrats voted against extending the ban: Max Baucus of Montana, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Zell Miller of Georgia, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Harry Reid of Nevada.
"Once again we're in a political season, and once again we're debating gun ownership," Craig said.
Democrats argued that law enforcement officers and regular citizens all would be safer if the assault weapons covered under the bill continued to be banned. "These are weapons of war. They are designed to kill a lot of people quickly," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who authored the 1994 gun ban while in the House.
Warner, who voted against the gun ban in 1994, said the testimony from law enforcement officials in his state convinced him to vote Tuesday for renewing it.
"Law enforcement has shown that it has reduced the use of these weapons in crime, so my words pale in significance to the law officers of the four corners of the commonwealth of Virginia," Warner said.
President Bush has staked out both sides of the issue, calling for the reauthorization of the assault weapons ban while arguing against the Senate's adding it to the gunmaker immunity bill.
After other amendments, the Senate is expected to easily pass the gunmaker immunity bill. It would bar lawsuits against gun makers stemming from a crime in when a legally sold gun is used to commit the crime.
After Senate action, the measure goes to a House-Senate negotiating committee that will hammer out differences with the version passed by the GOP-controlled House last year.
Appears the blew it twice, wonder how long before they fix it?
What were they smoking?
Simple. The silent treatment.
I'd like to know that as well. Some have said the entire bill is dead in the Senate while others saying it isn't.
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