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1 posted on 03/01/2004 5:54:30 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
This writer forget that many believers look at Christ on a necklace as an idol - that is why many wear only the cross. Granted, many others just buy it as jewelry.
2 posted on 03/01/2004 5:58:00 AM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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That is what people want today: A cross without Jesus. A cross without any offense.

Not really. Protestants like the empty cross as it shows Christ has risen from death.

3 posted on 03/01/2004 5:58:18 AM PST by smith288 (http://www.ejsmithweb.com/FR/JohnKerry/)
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If ever you are tempted to doubt God's love for you, then take a long look at the cross. It wasn't the spikes that held Jesus there. It was His love for you.

Amen.

6 posted on 03/01/2004 6:03:10 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: joesnuffy
My take on those necklaces is, He's no longer on the cross; He conquered it and death for us - so take him off.
7 posted on 03/01/2004 6:03:30 AM PST by JustPlainJoe
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Jesus didn't have to die this way. God could have redeemed us in any manner of ways. Christ's death on the cross is ultimately a mystery, but we can attempt some explanations.

What is deeply consoling to me is that I can know that my Creator knows the meaning of suffering. He understands our suffering. Suffering can't be without meaning if He allowed His Son to suffer so.

Christ's incredible suffering also gives us an idea of the importance of evil and the great debt that we owe God for our sins committed against him, helping us to be thankful for His mercy.

Intellectually, we can understand that God allows evil so that greater good may come of it, as Christ's horrible death demonstrates.

8 posted on 03/01/2004 6:17:32 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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"Why Did Christ Die on the Cross? "

He was lifted up so that He would rise from the dead and conquer death and sin. Our Passover from death into life.

No greater love than to lay down one's life. By His death and resurrection He has saved the world. Thank you Jesus.

9 posted on 03/01/2004 6:17:57 AM PST by ex-snook (Be Patriotic - STOP outsourcing American jobs.)
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"If living a good moral life would get us to heaven, then Jesus would have never died on the cross for us."

And yet, so many still think they can get there from here.

12 posted on 03/01/2004 6:29:35 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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The answer may lie in this script from the Black Adder episode "Potato":

Blackadder: No, me; *I'm* the people who do all the work. I mean *look* at this! [goes to a table at the side of the room and picks up a small brown thing and holds it up] *What* is it?

Baldrick: Oh, I'm surprised you've forgotten, my lord.

Blackadder: I haven't forgotten; it's a rhetorical question.

Baldrick: [looking at him] No, it's a potato.

Blackadder: To you it's a potato, to me it's a potato. But to Sir Walter Bloody Raleigh it's country estates, fine carriages, and as many girls as his tongue can cope with. He's making a fortune out of the things; people are smoking them, building houses out of them... They'll be eating them next.

14 posted on 03/01/2004 6:36:04 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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"If there had been any other way, do you think that God would have sent His Son to suffer like this? If there had been any other way we could have been forgiven, then God surely would have found it."

Of course there were infinite other ways, since God is a being of infinite possibilities. And God doesn't need to "find" any other ways, He just "knows." If this is not so, then God is not really omnipotent, nor is He omniscient, but rather limited by the minds and actions of human beings. God gave us free will, you say? Then He can just as easily take it away, so it's not really free if it can be revoked at any time, especially if God has a "plan." If God can't revoke free will, then He's not really omnipotent. Who is responsible for Jesus' death? The Jews, the Romans, all of us? It was God who planned his own Son's death as the "only" way. But as a being of infinite possibilities, it couldn't have been the "only" way. He chose to revoke the free will of human beings in order to accomplish this. Had people exercised their free will and NOT crucified Jesus, it would have been in opposition to God's Will. Jesus had to die horribly, because that's what God wanted.
16 posted on 03/01/2004 6:50:00 AM PST by reasonseeker
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Why Did Christ Die on the Cross?

The message just wouldn't have been the same if he died on a "La-Z-Boy".


18 posted on 03/01/2004 7:00:35 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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