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To: joesnuffy
"If there had been any other way, do you think that God would have sent His Son to suffer like this? If there had been any other way we could have been forgiven, then God surely would have found it."

Of course there were infinite other ways, since God is a being of infinite possibilities. And God doesn't need to "find" any other ways, He just "knows." If this is not so, then God is not really omnipotent, nor is He omniscient, but rather limited by the minds and actions of human beings. God gave us free will, you say? Then He can just as easily take it away, so it's not really free if it can be revoked at any time, especially if God has a "plan." If God can't revoke free will, then He's not really omnipotent. Who is responsible for Jesus' death? The Jews, the Romans, all of us? It was God who planned his own Son's death as the "only" way. But as a being of infinite possibilities, it couldn't have been the "only" way. He chose to revoke the free will of human beings in order to accomplish this. Had people exercised their free will and NOT crucified Jesus, it would have been in opposition to God's Will. Jesus had to die horribly, because that's what God wanted.
16 posted on 03/01/2004 6:50:00 AM PST by reasonseeker
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To: reasonseeker
<>I"If there had been any other way, do you think that God would have sent His Son to suffer like this? If there had been any other way we could have been forgiven, then God surely would have found it."

He was asking for it in the garden shortly before the betrayal.

Jesus: "Father, if there is a plan "B" I'm all for it."

God's answer: "You are my plan."

Jesus: "Your will, not mine. I'll do this."

21 posted on 03/01/2004 8:30:59 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (The word system implies they have done something the same way at least twice)
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