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1 posted on 02/29/2004 6:41:01 PM PST by DemWatch
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Why is it after three days Bush moved to protect marriage that homosexuals can research ancient Rome and come up with definitive answers that family was phucked up since time immemorial, but after three decades they still don't understand their promiscuous affairs shorten their lives by decades? That the male side. On the female side they get meaner and meaner until a junkyard dog looks like a pussy cat by comparison. The more that homos do promos, the more I get disgusted.
29 posted on 02/29/2004 7:16:47 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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Yeah Anthies we is talking about the history of civilized man not some collection of bones proving how savages lived
31 posted on 02/29/2004 7:20:07 PM PST by uncbob
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Wow! Go figure a bunch of athiest, leftist, intellectual elitists used skewed "proof" to disagree with the President. Who'd a thunk it?!
32 posted on 02/29/2004 7:20:29 PM PST by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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The anthropologists might be right that Bush has made an incorrect statement abut the universality of heterosexual marriage. Bue even if so, they don't really have a point that's relevant to the marriage debate. At least, not unless they're willing to concede to the slippery slope argument that once marriage is treated as a mere contract made by and for consenting adults, then other forms, more disruptive to the social order, such as polygamy, will have to be permitted. (Polygamy is of course far more common than same-sex marriage, found in almost half of all studied cultures.)

Also, the fact that some other culture permits something shouldn't mean much of a prescriptive nature to people who would of course object to the notion that we should change some other culture by imposing our values and lifestyle upon it.

34 posted on 02/29/2004 7:21:38 PM PST by DWPittelli
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sarcasm on ----It is amazing how well-timed such a "finding" is for those who wish to assail the institution of marriage. -----sarcasm off
35 posted on 02/29/2004 7:22:22 PM PST by ontos-on
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36 posted on 02/29/2004 7:24:43 PM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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INTREP
37 posted on 02/29/2004 7:28:13 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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"families built upon same-sex partnerships, can contribute to stable and humane societies,

The society in Sodom and Gomorrah is still thriving isn't it.

38 posted on 02/29/2004 7:28:49 PM PST by daffyduct
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"Bush has cast the union between male and female as the only proper form of marriage, or what he called in his State of the Union address "one of the most fundamental, enduring institutions of our civilization."

Actually it is God who has cast the union between male and female as the only proper form of union. He commanded this through his REVEALED world. People without benefit of his word or those who ignore it, deny it or twist it, will form all kinds of improper sexual unions. No surprise there.

You can't force people of the same gender who want to get married, not to do it even though God forbids it. So IMO the legal recognition of gay marriage is inevitable.

I worry that if gay marriage is LEGALLY recognized it is going to be dangerous to teach your own children that regardless of what others are doing, God forbids it. I fear that it will be seen as the moral equivalent of racism. And people's freedom to pass their moral values down to their own children will be supressed.

40 posted on 02/29/2004 7:31:51 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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So wealthy Romans considered their house slaves "family"? Not exactly a new discovery. I wonder how the slaves felt.

What exactly does this have to do with 'gay marriage'?

41 posted on 02/29/2004 7:36:10 PM PST by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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The "Greek vice" was popular in ancient Greece, and in some circles in ancient Rome, but that doesn't mean there was same-sex marriage; both cultures had prostitution too, but prostitutes were not wives. Nero apparently went through marriage ceremonies with two men, but that seems to have been regarded with bemused contempt by his contemporaries. The notion that Christianity has ever endorsed same-sex unions comes from a book written by an American homosexual scholar who is generally acknowledged to have misread the evidence.

Sodomy was practiced in some American Indian cultures--Bernal Diaz mentions it with disgust in his narrative of the conquest of New Spain. There's a "berdache" character in the movie Little Big Man. They existed, but that doesn't mean there were same-sex "marriages" in these societies.

42 posted on 02/29/2004 7:37:01 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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This is from the same people who told us in the 60's and 70's that divorce does not hurt children. We lost a whole generation over that one. So we are embarking on another grand experiment... gay marriage. Let's see how that one screws up the world we are leaving our children.
44 posted on 02/29/2004 7:43:31 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats
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Anthropology, like psychology and psychiatry is pseudo-science and fit only for the dustbin.
45 posted on 02/29/2004 7:44:41 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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"a vast array of family types, including families built upon same-sex partnerships, can contribute to stable and humane societies,"

"Can", not "have". And only if there are a "vast aray" of heterosexual families to offset the perverts.

48 posted on 02/29/2004 8:01:03 PM PST by bayourod ( Kerry's 1st wife: $250M; 2nd wife: $700M; Mistress: priceless.)
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(LIBERAL COMMIE GREEN WEENIE) Scientists counter Bush view: Families varied, say (DISGUSTING HETROPHOBE) anthropologists
49 posted on 02/29/2004 8:12:03 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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Pagan marriage vs. Christian marriage.
 
Same old same old.
 
Ps 106:35-39
35 but they mingled with the nations and adopted their customs.
36 They worshiped their idols, which became a snare to them.
37 They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to demons.
38 They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters,
     whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, and the land was desecrated by their blood.
39 They defiled themselves by what they did; by their deeds they prostituted themselves.
 
 

50 posted on 02/29/2004 8:36:19 PM PST by VxH (This species has amused itself to death.)
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"If he were to take even the first semester of anthropology, he would know that's not true," said Segal...geez, I took the first semester of anthropology, and even a second to fulfill whatever course requirement it met - that was forty years ago, and about all I recall after all that time is that cultural values are set by people - and with polls showing sixty percent plus of the people in this culture say they reject homosexual unions and agree with Bush that marriage between a man and a woman represents the best arrangement for establishing a stable, nuturing environment for raising the next generation, it doesn't matter much at all what a bunch of anthropologists think......
52 posted on 02/29/2004 9:37:25 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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SF Gate

To understand what the homosexuals are doing,

read "The Pink Swastika"

it tracks them PERFECTLY!
54 posted on 02/29/2004 10:40:42 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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This should not surprise anyone. Horowitz on frontpagemag.com can done an extensive effor to docuemnt the 90+% of professors are on the left or far left.

They would oppose Bush if he said the sky was blue.
They would oppose Bush if he said the earth circle the sun.
They would oppose Bush if he was giving away free money and promised to tax everyone 110%.
55 posted on 02/29/2004 10:48:18 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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There are Christian anthropologists....I know....my son is one!! Here's his response to this article:

Segal's comments are in error about the Greeks and Romans sanctioning same sex marriages in Christians. By "Christians" he proabably means some of the heretical sects of Christianity like Gnosticism or Ariansim (bishop Arius--not Nazis), who would have had no problem with homosexuality. This is the part of Anthropology I really don't like....on the whole it is extremely LIBERAL (as you've probably figured out from talking with me).
56 posted on 03/03/2004 9:42:42 AM PST by TejasRose
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