Aristide Bows to Pressure, Leaves Haiti

AP via C-SPAN

[not-alone]

I have been following this thread with interest and thanks for your comments. I have hesitated to post because of very mixed feeling and I am questioning my personal feelings. I lived and traveled in the Caribbean for over 35 years and have very different feelings about different Islands, as I have about European countries. My thoughts this morning were of how different St. Martian , an island with two governments, and the situation with Haiti and Santo Domingo.

I heard Julian on Fox this morning say, "we owe Haiti because without Haiti we would not have gotten the Louisiana Purchase." PLEASE!

This is one situation where I trust Pres. Bush and Colin Powell to make the best decisions.

[thathamiltonwoman]

I hate to sound cynical but a person can go to church on Sunday and still practice voodoo Monday through Saturday. That's the power of voodoo. It's adaptable. The stuff you see on TV is mostly for tourists. Real voodoo is infused in every part of the practitioner's daily life.

[autoresponder]

Don't you just love it when John Kerry says he would treat OBL as a "criminal case" like Kobe Bryant and Martha Stewart, the Peterson case, and OJ?


We can't even stop illegal criminal felons like the Mayors of San Francisco, CA and New Putx, NY from ordering and performing homosexual marriages against existing state and federal statutes.

We cannot even get a judge or state AG to even act to stop them!


Kerry thinks Kofi and the UN and France and Germany will help us?


Like in Rowanda?



Note we are in Yemen with our FBI, CIA, Special Forces, Predators firing Hellfires under GW/Rumsfeld


Not under Clinton.

-

After Iraq we see Libya say "Uncle!"

-

After Iraq we see Haiti say "Uncle!"

-



Shoot their "Top Gun"



Clint Eastwood/John Wayne style




Listen to John Kerry's 1971 Senate videos/audios:



"America is too 'John Wayne' and 'GI Joe'......."


Read John Kerry's own Harvard Crimson published statements he made on FEB 13th, 1970 to *Samuel Z. Goldhaber, Harvard Class of 1972:


"I'm an internationalist." Kerry told the *"Crimson" in 1970.


-- John Kerry Feb. 13th, 1971


"I'd like to see our troops dispersed throughout the world only at the directive of the United Nations."


-- John Kerry Feb. 13th, 1971


"Kerry wanted 'to eliminate CIA activity'.

-- Samuel Z. Goldhaber,
-- Harvard Crimson Feb. 13th, 1971


"......to eliminate CIA activity."


-- John Kerry Feb. 13th, 1971


"The CIA is fighting it's own war in Laos and nobody seems to mind."
-- John Kerry Feb. 13th, 1971



(D-MA) Senator John Kerry
(D-IA) Senator Tom Harkin
(Commie Guatamala) General Ortega

(1984 IN LIVING "PINKO"):

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John Kerry 2002-2004:


"Terrorism is Exaggerated!"

"Terrorism is a Law Enforcment issue!"


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http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryBombsWMD.mp3

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryVets.mp3

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryFaileiraq.mp3


http://pro.lookingat.us/Kerry100Days.mp3

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[leadpenny]

I have no clue what you are trying to do.

[leadpenny]

Aristide Flees Haiti; Judge Claims Power
24 minutes ago

By PAISLEY DODDS and IAN JAMES, Associated Press Writers

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - Haiti's beleaguered President Jean-Bertrand Aristide resigned and flew into exile Sunday. Gunfire crackled throughout the capital as it fell into chaos, and the United States said international peacekeepers — including Americans — would be deployed soon.

The head of Haiti's supreme court said he was taking charge.

U.N. diplomats said key Security Council members would begin to talk Sunday about a resolution to authorize an international force for Haiti, which erupted into violence three weeks ago when rebels began driving police from towns and cities in the north.

Though not aligned with rebels, the political opposition had pushed for Aristide to leave for the good of Haiti's 8 million people, angered by poverty, corruption and crime. The uprising — only the most recent violence in this Caribbean nation — killed at least 100 people.

Prime Minister Yvon Neptune told a press conference that Aristide resigned to "prevent bloodshed."

At the same news conference, U.S. Ambassador James Foley insisted the United States had not asked Aristide to resign. France, Haiti's former colonial power, had suggested that Aristide step down.

"President (Jean-Bertrand) Aristide made a decision for the good of the Haitian people," Foley said. "International military forces including U.S. forces will be rapidly arriving in Haiti to begin to restore a sense of security."

There were conflicting reports on where Aristide was headed. A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said South Africa was the country most often mentioned. Seretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) conferred on Saturday with South African President Thabo Mbeki about the situation.

Radio reports on the island of Antigua said Aristide's jet had refueled there en route to South Africa, but officials in Johannesburg said there had been no recent contact with Aristide nor an offer of asylum.

Powell also spoke by telephone with the foreign ministers of Argentina, France, Jamaica and Panama. The official declined to discuss details of the conversations.

Other reports said Aristide would go to Morocco, Taiwan or Panama. But officials in Taiwan said there were no plans to shelter the ousted Haitian leader, and Morocco said he was not welcome. Panamanian officials would not address the issue.

Three hours after Aristide's departure, Supreme Court Justice Boniface Alexandre declared at a news conference that he was taking over as called for by the constitution. He urged calm.

"The task will not be an easy one," Alexandre, a former jurist in his 60s with a reputation for honesty. "Haiti is in crisis. ... It needs all its sons and daughters. No one should take justice into their own hands."

Despite Alexandre's declaration that he was in charge, the Haitian constitution calls for parliament to approve him as leader and the legislature has not met since early this year when lawmakers' terms expired.

Port-au-Prince was in chaos Sunday as news emerged of the president's departure.

Angry Aristide supporters roamed the streets armed with old rifles, pistols, machetes and sticks. Some fired wildly into crowds on the Champs de Mars, the main square in front of the National Palace. Looters pillaged supermarkets and pharmacies.

Foley said he was confident leaders of the popular rebellion that helped force Aristide's departure would lay down arms. "I do think we saw a certain willingness on their part to allow an orderly transition," he said.

Half the country is in the hands of the rebels, including former soldiers of the army that Aristide disbanded during a political career tainted by alleged fraud.

On Saturday, the United States urged Aristide supporters to cease looting and robbing in Port-au-Prince and rebel fighters to halt their march toward the capital.

A top rebel leader, Guy Philippe, heeded the U.S. appeal, saying he would hold off attacking the capital for one or two days. Hours before he spoke Saturday, rebel fighters were seen within 25 miles of Port-au-Prince.

Another rebel commander, Winter Etienne, said the fighters — a motley group led by a former army death squad commander, one of Aristide's provincial police chiefs and a former pro-Aristide street gang — would disarm once a new government is installed.

As he spoke, rebels rode through the key northern port city of Cap-Haitien in trucks, waving at hundreds of people who took to the streets to dance and sing in celebration.

Crisis in Haiti under Aristide has been brewing since his party swept flawed legislative elections in 2000 and international donors froze millions of dollars in aid.

Opponents also accused him of breaking promises to help the poor, allowing corruption fueled by drug-trafficking and masterminding attacks on opponents by armed gangs — charges the president denied.

It was the second time the 50-year-old former slum priest fled his country. Aristide was ousted in a 1991 coup, months after he was elected president for the first time. He was restored to power three years later by U.S. troops.

President Bill Clinton (news - web sites) sent 20,000 troops to restore Aristide but insisted he respect a constitutional term limit and step down in 1995.

Aristide hand-picked his successor, Rene Preval, but was considered the power behind the scenes until he won a second term in 2000. Those elections were marred by a low turnout and an opposition boycott.

It was not clear where Aristide's wife was. The ex-president and Mildred Trouillot Aristide had sent their two daughters to her mother in New York City last week.

[autoresponder]

Don't you just love it when John Kerry says he would treat OBL as a "criminal case" like Kobe Bryant and Martha Stewart, the Peterson case, and OJ?


We can't even stop illegal criminal felons like the Mayors of San Francisco, CA and New Putx, NY from ordering and performing homosexual marriages against existing state and federal statutes.

We cannot even get a judge or state AG to even act to stop them!


Kerry thinks Kofi and the UN and France and Germany will help us?


Like in Rowanda?



Note we are in Yemen with our FBI, CIA, Special Forces, Predators firing Hellfires under GW/Rumsfeld


Not under Clinton.

-

After Iraq we see Libya say "Uncle!"

-

After Iraq we see Haiti say "Uncle!"

-



Shoot their "Top Gun"



Clint Eastwood/John Wayne style




Listen to John Kerry's 1971 Senate videos/audios:



"America is too 'John Wayne' and 'GI Joe'......."


Read John Kerry's own Harvard Crimson published statements he made on FEB 13th, 1970 to *Samuel Z. Goldhaber, Harvard Class of 1972:


"I'm an internationalist." Kerry told the *"Crimson" in 1970.


-- John Kerry Feb. 13th, 1971


"I'd like to see our troops dispersed throughout the world only at the directive of the United Nations."


-- John Kerry Feb. 13th, 1971


"Kerry wanted 'to eliminate CIA activity'.

-- Samuel Z. Goldhaber,
-- Harvard Crimson Feb. 13th, 1971


"......to eliminate CIA activity."


-- John Kerry Feb. 13th, 1971


"The CIA is fighting it's own war in Laos and nobody seems to mind."
-- John Kerry Feb. 13th, 1971



(D-MA) Senator John Kerry
(D-IA) Senator Tom Harkin
(Commie Guatamala) General Ortega

(1984 IN LIVING "PINKO"):

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryHarkinOrtega.gif


John Kerry 2002-2004:


"Terrorism is Exaggerated!"

"Terrorism is a Law Enforcment issue!"


Listen to John Kerry's 2003 audios on .mp3:


http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryInternationalismTerrorism.mp3

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryBombsWMD.mp3

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryVets.mp3

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryFaileiraq.mp3


http://pro.lookingat.us/Kerry100Days.mp3

John Kerry, GREAT WHITE HUNTER:

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryGuns.mp3

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryBradyNRA.mp3



OK Gang!



My Sunday audio and graphic "dump"


Upload


email to your lib relatives, friends, co-workers.......


Collect the whole set:

2-page ALLOW TIME, SCROLL DOWN!

Kerry & Fonda, John Kerry on the 1971 Senate audiotapes & "clickable" Winter Soldier" Senate audio tapes by a Lt.

On page #2 I installed a "random play" rotating AUTOSTART of the "Winter Soldier" tapes followed by John Kerry charging "others" in Nam for atrocities (on "MTP" in 1971 he confessed he, John Kerry committed atrocities himself!)

Page #1 starts with "Platoon" BG theme and gunfire/explosions......


http://pro.lookingat.us/Kerry-11.html


9-page ALLOW TIME, SCROLL DOWN!


http://pro.lookingat.us/Kerry.html




- any 'bad links' or problemos?


FReepmail me please





- Careful what you post in the open here on FR!


NOTE:

[Steve Malzberg, whose stuff have you been accessing?]


John Kerry 1971 US Senate Hearings

Accuses our Viet Nam soldiers of atrocities


[but not me, John Kerry!!!]


(LONG / LOADS VERY SLOWLY)


http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryKohn.mp3

SHORTY PART #1 LOADS FAST! 48 seconds

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryKohn1.mp3

SHORTY PART #2 LOADS FAST! 48 seconds

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryKohn2.mp3


Upload 'em Steve!


Play 'em on WABC 770am NYC!





{I did not convert these great last 3 .mp3's}



a very talented FReeper did, not me


They are not covered by any copyrights and can be broadcast and played

[leadpenny]

I'm missing something here. What are you doing?

I'm about to hit the abuse button!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for the ping.

Hopefully this is good news!

[autoresponder]

Sometimes I miss things or intents too



I reread, then have a cup of coffee



Some here on FR and on radio are saying all before 9-11-2001 must ignored


Or 2000 (Clinton)

Or 1984 (Kerry/Harkin)

Or 1971 (John Kerry, "Capt" Al Hubbard, Jane Fonda, Ramsey Clark)



If people do not want to hear or read about them



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My post was typed while also sending an email to Steve Malzberg at WABC 770am NYC while he is (still) live on the air



Sorry to confuse anyone reading this thread

I also mistyped one URL:

[did not capitalize "Iraq" in my URL, sorry!]

http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryFailedIraq.mp3

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Ack! Please stop with the big posts.

[leadpenny]

I reread, then have a cup of coffee

I don't think it is coffee that you're drinking. But that's just my impression.

[autoresponder]

Sorry, what are you missing?



I am not pro-Aristide


What is your question?

[Amelia]

I like Harrigan's reporting. It's just straightforward, "this is what's going on" on the scene reporting. This morning, he said that going out in Port-au-Prince would be suicide--and I believe him.

Oh, I do too. He has none of the hype, overkill, and self-promotion of Geraldo's "reporting"...I get the feeling Geraldo would be going down to Port-au-Prince just so he could report his own death at the hands of the mob.

However, when Harrigan looked as though he feared for his safety, that raised my eyebrows, and convinced me that Haiti was a very dangerous place to be at that point. Harrigan doesn't seem to do "hype".

[leadpenny]

Do you have some kind of physical problem that prevents you from posting in a coherent manner?

[eleni121]

Bon Chance Messieur Boniface Alexandre!

Good riddance to the butcher Aristide. I wonder if anyone will try then thug Aristide for war crimes? Yeah...right.

[eleni121]

Too bad we can't send Ketchup boy to South Africa along with Aristide.

Seriously, the kind of language Kerry sues to describe the US leads one to consider the awfulness of his becoming president. Nightmare.

[Alamo-Girl]

Bump!

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Thank you for your sharing your hopeful insights.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Feb 29, 11:59 AM EST

U.S. Troops to Repatriate Haitian Migrants

By TERENCE HUNT
AP White House Correspondent

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Bush administration welcomed the departure Sunday of one-time ally Jean-Bertrand Aristide from Haiti while Marines assembled to help repatriate Haitian migrants aboard Coast Guard ships.

Rather than send the Marines by ship, as was considered before Aristide's departure, they were expected to go by air in order to arrive more quickly, said defense officials, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The plan was to fly in as many as several hundred Marines to assist the Coast Guard at one or more Haitian ports, the officials said. Such a force, known as a special Marine Air-Ground Task Force, was standing by at Camp Lejeune, N.C., a major Marine Corps base.

The centerpiece of such a task force would be elements of a Marine infantry battalion that is always on short-notice alert at Camp Lejeune, supplemented by Marine aircraft, logistics and other transportation elements.

The administration's intention was to await an official request by the Haitian government and for American military assistance before giving the Marines the go-ahead to deploy, officials said.

As a next step, the administration planned to use those Marines or a larger group of troops as part of an international security force assembled under the auspices of a regional institution called the Caribbean Community, officials said.

"President Aristide's decision is in the best interest of the Haitian people," a senior administration official said after Aristide left Haiti.

Another U.S. official said an international security force with American participation would get ready should authorization come from Haitian authorities and the U.N. Security Council.

At a debate in New York, Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said the United States should be part of a U.N. force to secure Haiti. The North Carolina senator and other Democrats accused President Bush of neglecting the Caribbean nation as it spiraled into chaos.

"He's late, as usual," said John Kerry, the undisputed front-runner for the Democratic nomination.

With Aristide's departure, the head of Haiti's supreme court said he was taking charge. One U.S. concern, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, was that the rebels who forced Aristide to flee might demand a role in the new government. The United States considers many members of these groups to be committed to violence and undeserving of any political role.

Another U.S. official said it appeared unlikely that U.S. military aircraft or personnel would be needed to evacuate Americans in Haiti.

Secretary of State Colin Powell had spoken on the telephone with the foreign ministers of Argentina, France, Jamaica and Panama. Powell conferred on Saturday with Thabo Mbeki, the president of South Africa, which is the country most often mentioned as Aristide's destination, according to a U.S. official.

Aristide's ouster angered some members of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Rep. Charles Rangel, who was deeply involved in restoring Aristide's elected government to power in 1994, said the United States must shoulder much of the blame for Aristide's fall and the chaos that brought it on.

"I don't know what's going on, but we are just as much as part of this coup d'etat as the rebels, looters or anyone else," Rangel, D-N.Y., said on ABC's "This Week."

Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., said that in a country "where a true democracy has recently emerged after decades of autocratic rule," the elected president "has been pushed out by an administration anxious to get rid of him."

An administration official said Aristide left Haiti at approximately 6:45 a.m. EST, accompanied by members of his security detail. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he could not provide other details because Aristide had not yet arrived at his destination.

There was no immediate reaction from President Bush, who was spending the weekend at Camp David, his retreat in Maryland's Catoctin Mountains. He was due back at the White House on Sunday afternoon.

Late Saturday, the White House had ratcheted up pressure on Aristide, whose rule has been marked by violence, corruption and poverty.

"This long-simmering crisis is largely of Mr. Aristide's making," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said in Saturday's statement. McClellan said Aristide's actions "have called into question his fitness to continue to govern."

Some 2,200 U.S. Marines have been on alert while Pentagon officials weighed the possibility of sending troops to waters off Haiti to guard against any flood of refugees and to protect the estimated 20,000 Americans in the Caribbean country.

Associated Press Military Writer Robert Burns and AP writer George Gedda contributed to this report.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press. All rights reserved.

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HAITI?SITE=MIDTN&SECTION=POLITICS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[Iberian]

Castro would love to have a strong influence in Haiti like he has in Venezuela.
We need with own hemisphere before the Che / Castro influences spread further.