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For many Democrats, part of Mr. Kerry's appeal lies in the very fact that he both served in, then opposed the war, giving him the cachet of gallant warrior and principled dissident.

I think I'm going to be sick.

1 posted on 02/27/2004 10:27:11 PM PST by Utah Girl
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Just to add to the nausea factor...

2 posted on 02/27/2004 10:27:42 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
The liberals would like us to believe that complexity explains away the abuses of John Kerry. Unable to see things as right or wrong, the issue of John Kerry and his sordid past, is indeed complex to them. Able to see right from wrong, conservatives find this a simple issue of John Kerry being unfit to hold any public office, let alone the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Is anyone amazed that the appologists for Bill Clinton find John Kerry to be a man of high moral fibre? Need I say more...
3 posted on 02/27/2004 10:32:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Utah Girl
Here we go with the usual liberal mewling about the "complex nature" of a liberal presidential frontrunner. Like clockwork, the press lemmings produce these stories to confuse voters and to confuse whatever issues there are at hand. In this case, it's Kerry's record - or more accurately his involvement with known 60s Marxist revolutionaries.

So we get the usual trip about "nuance" and "complexity" when referring to something everyone knows. Liberals love to be told they have a real respect for "complexity" even if their political speech amounts to nothing more than name-calling and personal attacks.

5 posted on 02/27/2004 10:39:41 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Utah Girl
This article is a prime example of the Liberal mindset, They have no principles, it's what ever the flavor of the day is. They believe that no one should be held responsible for their actions, unless there is a chance to further the Socialist Utopian Society they dream about, then they get the long knives out.

John Kerry was not just a dissident, he testified about atrocities he never saw, he smeared his brothers in arms while they were still fighting in the jungles of Vietnam. He betrayed them at the least, and came very close to committing Treason.

Benedict Arnold was a "Gallant Warrior" at one time as well

6 posted on 02/27/2004 10:48:12 PM PST by MJY1288 (There's no leaders on the path of least resistance, ask John Kerry, he's been paving it for 32 yrs.)
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To: Utah Girl
Whenever the libs in the media use the words "complex" or "nuanced", the real meaning is flip-flopper and liar.
10 posted on 02/28/2004 1:38:05 AM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Utah Girl
COMPLEXITY = EXCUSES
11 posted on 02/28/2004 2:08:25 AM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo
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The NY Times is just getting this story out of the way.

--Saturday edition.

--In the "dead zone" between primaries and the general election.

--Report just enough bare facts to say they've done the story, sprinkled liberally (no pun intended) with exculpatory quotes from politically motivated players.

This could be known as "killing the story by putting it on the front page".

12 posted on 02/28/2004 3:54:08 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Utah Girl
Outstanding!

The Dems are feeling enough heat on this that the NY Times is being called upon to do some damage control.

But even as they spin, minimize, and excuse, we have the conversation firmly focused on *our* topic.

See www.wintersoldier.com for considerably more on the subject.

Did you know that Kerry went to a Paris "peace talk" to meet with NVA and Vietcong leaders *before* the Senate appearance that made him famous? Or that during the little-reported Q&A portion of his testimony, Kerry accused the U.S. military of murdering 200,000 Vietnamese civilians per year?

13 posted on 02/28/2004 4:10:10 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Utah Girl
He lost my vote 33 years ago, in 1971, when he slandered me and 3,000,000 of my buddies.
14 posted on 02/28/2004 4:33:18 AM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Utah Girl
For many Democrats, part of Mr. Kerry's appeal lies in the very fact that he both served in, then opposed the war, giving him the cachet of gallant warrior and principled dissident.

Yes, the central Hollywood myth!

15 posted on 02/28/2004 4:59:39 AM PST by secretagent
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To: Utah Girl
But when Mr. Kerry was involved, contemporaries recount, he often took steps to moderate the group's actions, believing it was better — for it, and him — to work within the political system that he ultimately sought to join.

To me, that says it all. Two key points: 1. How noble it is to "moderate" the actions of a malevolent group...gee, isn't that praiseworthy. What a totally unprincipled position... you can join a hate group, as long as you are trying to "moderate" it. I'd like to see that rationale applied to some other groups... 2. Kerry was trying to "work within the political system that he ultimately sought to join." So is that NY Times speak for an effort to maintain his "political viability" (hmmmm, where have we heard that before?). It wasn't about principle, it was about electability, at that time at least in Massachusetts.

17 posted on 02/28/2004 5:08:26 AM PST by GraceCoolidge
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To: Utah Girl; All
Little Todd just wants to keep his boss happy:

Quote:
the Times's new publisher, Arthur "Pinch" Sulzberger Jr ... was a sixties anti-war activist who famously declared that in a confrontation between an American and a North Vietnamese soldier he'd want to see the American get shot."
Unquote.
Stanley Kurtz (NRO on line, June 5, 2001)

20 posted on 02/28/2004 6:19:43 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Utah Girl
Chatting with a co-worker about her problems, she blurted out this gem to us at lunch one day:

"I'm not screwed up, I'm just complex"
23 posted on 02/28/2004 1:46:10 PM PST by P.O.E. (D@mned if you do, Dem'd if you don't)
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