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"...there is a lot of evidence that an ANFO bomb alone could not have caused all the damage done to the Murrah Building and that smaller powerful bombs inside the building caused much, if not most, of it. Since the ANFO that the FBI says was in the Ryder truck failed to demolish a low concrete wall between it and the building, or knock down a nearby lamp post, it could not have destroyed the more distant reinforced concrete building."

Mind numbing idiocy ...

THIS is the SHAM theory that michael redvero 'pushed' for so long ...

There is absolutely no evidence of any internal explosions in the Murrah Bldg.
An internal explosion would leave scorch marks, melt the carpeting, form spiderwebbing cracks, and generally create an epicenter of damage.
NO such damage was found anywhere inside the building. One of the witnesses to this fact was a local fire marshal who participated in the rescue effort.
The notion of internal explosions was contrived by a very retired USAF Brig.Gen, Ben Partin, whose "expertise", it turns out, was precision aerial bomb dropping on third world huts (he had retired during the Vietnam War), not the physics and chemistry of homemade explosives at ground level on modern office buildings.
Partin didn't even come to OKC to view the damage himself. Based on some (wrong) assumptions Partin convinced himself that, mathematically, a truck bomb couldn't have done the damage and he postulated four bombs inside the third floor. Except the third floor was the Federal Employee's Credit Union, which was actually a non-civil service establishment and more heavily locked and protected than most of the rest of the building.
Morever, there were some survivors from the third floor who testified and made it Very Clear that the explosion (just one) came from outside the building.
Partin postulated the internal bombs only to solve one problem -- his own calculation about the blast power at the distance from the truck -- but his postulation created even more problems; if bombs had been on the third (or fourth or any other) floor, then the floors below and the floors above would have been pushed in different directions and there would be unmistakable signs of that, also there would have been a LOT more damage to the far side of the building. And, again, a different epicenter.
Partin had calculated on the assumption that McV used common diesel fuel, when in fact he used racing fuel which would have quadrupled the blast power.
The simple fact is that the truck bomb not only wrecked the Murrah Bldg, it also wrecked at least two buildings at least as far away in the opposite direction - the Water Board Bldg and the Athenian Bldg - and killed four people inside those other buildings! To me, this is very clear proof that Partin's calculations are just plain wrong.
Partin tried to get on the defense witness lists for the McV & Nichols trials but the defense lawyers refused to use him because they knew he'd be torn apart by real experts in the field of demolition and arson investigation. He did testify before the OKC Grand Jury, which was clearly not persuaded by his theories.
Aerial photos of the scene made within an hour or two after the blast, before the streets were cleared off, makes it Very Obvious that the epicenter of the damage is the spot (a deep crater) where the truck used to be.
All the debris radiates from that point. If there had been bombs inside the building, you see multiple epicenters, which didn't happen. Also, a couple of blocks away there were thin straight lines of debris in the streets -- not stuff blown all the way from the Murrah Bldg but dust and old paint and the like jarred loosed from the nearby buildings as a result of the blast, which creates an odd sort of chalk outline on the streets. If there had been multiple blasts, that line would have been seriously blurred.
There is no evidence that ATF personnel lied. One ATF person reported being trapped for several minutes in the elevator stalled at the time of the blast, and the building engineer denied that anything like that could possibly have happened with HIS elevators .... but I could tell you stories of my own about how govt building engineers have lied about their elevators. A contradiction but no solid proof.
I have not heard the stories about ATF people being bandaged, certainly a couple of them were actually taken to the hospital with bona fide injuries altho they were, generally, less seriously hurt than most others because of the location of the ATF office. A few people - none of them an expert on explosives - thought they saw "bombs" lying around (if this were true then the conspirators were very lousy bomb-makers, certainly not up to CIA standards) but these turned out to be such stuff as desk clocks and other innocuous items blown around to odd places by the explosion.
59 Posted on 09/28/2000 11:57:27 PDT by DonQ
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Competant resources for analysis of the OKC bomb blast - not this conspriacy-based crap (some of these links may or may not be current at this time):

Click here for info on book

"This book serves as documentation of the incident from a structural standpoint. It provides detailed discussion of the construction of the building, the structural damage witnessed, the hazard mitigation measures taken during the rescue/recovery process. It also provides a discussion of the weak points in the design and construction which may have contributed to exacerbating the damage and measures that structural engineers can take to limit damage due to this severe loading condition."

Click here for report from American Society of Civil Engineers, outlining inferior construction quality of Murrah Building

"It is important to understand that the bomb blast to the Murrah building was not devastating by itself -- it just so happened that it was located at a critical point which undermined the whole structure of the building. What we discovered as a result of our investigation was that most of the damage and a vast majority of the fatalities were caused by the progressive collapse of the building."

Click here for Court TV report

Click here for Oklahoma Department of Civil Emergency Management report

"A minimum of two subsequent "bomb scares" forced the evacuation of these personnel. The evacuation of the structure allowed officials to create a controlled perimeter around the dangerous site. Rescue workers were not allowed to re-enter the site until confirmation was given that no additional explosive devices were located."

Click here for second Court TV report

Click here for OKC book

"Draws on more than three hundred interviews--with survivors, victims' families, investigators, and convicted bomber Timothy McVeigh--to examine the full story of the Oklahoma City bombing."

Click here for Disaster Recovery Journal

Click here for 911 Magazine report

Click here for Popular Mechanics report

Cl ick here for CNN report

Click here for FEMA report

Click here for Weidlinger Associates report

Click here for City of Oklahoma City Final Report

Click here for AP report on Grand Jury

I am EXTREMELY gratified that someone thought my message from four years ago was worth keeping and reprinting. I can add a few items;

Gen. Partin's theory about multiple bombs rests on his calculations about the explosive power needed to bring down a number of the Murrah Bldg's internal support pillars. Partin's calculation with a very crude diagram has been posted on various internet websites. Partin's entire theory and his simplistic calculations treat the Murrah Bldg's pillars as if they were bowling pins -- standing entirely alone so each one can only be broken or knocked down by the force coming straight from the explosion. Architects and structural engineers (such as those who contributed to the FEMA study of the bombing) point out that modern American office buildings have the pillars firmly fastened to floors and ceilings and, by extension, effected by shifts in the floors, walls, etc. The explosion hit the Murrah Bldg broadside, coming at the midpoint of a long side of the rectangle, causing the entire building to be momentarily twisted, a momentary force that ripped loose and cracked virtually every wall, floor, joist, and pillar. It was much like one of those plastic ice cube trays -- when you grab both ends and give a momentary twist every ice cube comes loose. Calculating all this was evidently too daunting for Partin, so he treated the pillars as if floors and joists didn't convey vibrations and torque among them, a serious defect.

One of the most telling demonstrations that Partin, et al., are wrong was in a lawsuit that was brought by a bunch of Murrah Bldg survivors and families, suing the chemical company that made the ammonium nitrate fertilizer used by McVeign. The case is Gaines-Tabb v. ICI Explosives USA, Inc. (W.D. Okl. July 2, 1996) 995 F.Supp 1304 affirmed (10th Cir. Nov. 9, 1998) 160 F.3d 613. The plaintiffs sued the chemical company for selling the fertilizer that McVeigh used in making the bomb. The defendant company was certainly (with a name like ICI Explosives) expert on explosives and on their own product's value as an explosive. Now, it would have been an extremely useful and effective defense if the company could say "it wasn't our product at all, our product couldn't done this much damage, and we can prove it", and brought out Partin and his theory. But the company didn't do that at all. The company readily admitted that McVeigh's bomb had been built with their fertilizer and that it had caused all the damage. Instead, the company defended on the chancier argument of foreseeability and McVeigh's malicious off-label use of what should have been a benign product. And the company won. I would think that the deliberate decision by the chemical company, which was certainly expert enough to know if Partin's theory was plausible, not to use Partin is very telling.

It appears that Nichols is trying to defend on the argument that there may have been other conspirators who are getting away -- although the existence and identity of those other conspirators seems to be pure conjecture. Even if true, this would be unavailing to save the conspirators who were caught from being punished.