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Art that Transcends: THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
BreakPoint with Charles Colson ^ | 27 Feb 04 | Charles Colson

Posted on 02/27/2004 12:39:08 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: maestro
maestro - can you do us all a favor on this thread and speak plainly. Since you didn't see the movie, what gnostic/mystic things specifically do you speak of?

Specifically.
41 posted on 02/29/2004 8:08:06 PM PST by time4good
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To: time4good
LOL

'Google'....

(Romans 10:17)

:-)

42 posted on 02/29/2004 8:11:01 PM PST by maestro
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To: maestro
If this Gnostic/Mystic criticism charge is about doubting whether a Catholic (ie. Gibson) could make a movie that a conservative Baptist could appreciate, think again.

There is no mysticism. There is no "veneration of Mary" or anything of that sort. It's only fault is its inability to do what is nearly impossible for any movie to convey -- the hypostatic union (divine and human nature of Christ).

43 posted on 02/29/2004 8:15:15 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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To: maestro
The word of God was faithfully adhered to in this film.

My wife opened her bible immediately upon returning for the theater and found no deviation from the scriptures. NONE!

44 posted on 02/29/2004 8:16:25 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: wirestripper
The word of God was faithfully adhered to in this film.

Ah,.....The 'blind' could really appreciate this movie!

I'm encouraged.

/sarcasm

(Romans 10:17)

Maranatha!!

45 posted on 02/29/2004 8:20:22 PM PST by maestro
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To: Zechariah11
There is no mysticism.

Ah,.....'no heart'....

hmmmmmmmm

(Romans 10:17)

Maranatha!!

46 posted on 02/29/2004 8:22:38 PM PST by maestro
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To: Zechariah11
the hypostatic union (divine and human nature of Christ).

That would have been a good argument to make with this poster that questioned the fact that Jesus bore the full weight of the cross, even after a fatal flogging.

I felt that it was because of the power of God allowed him to bear it, and the weight represented the weight of all our sin.

Very visual it was.

47 posted on 02/29/2004 8:23:38 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: maestro
"LOL" ??

yeah, ok.

Why don't you stop wasting time here and go read and think about what Paul means when he talks about Christ being preached. Instead of choking on gnats, do you see how God prefers to use the 'uncomely' [e.g. Mel to us ol'timers in a long-time-Christian sense] as well as anyone else He so Sovereignly choses. He knows that His Word does NOT return void. And believe it, His Word as written reached more people this past 5 days at one time than we've seen before.
48 posted on 02/29/2004 8:24:08 PM PST by time4good
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To: wirestripper
This is a futile exercise -- trying to make sense of his posts. Just ignore him until he learns to write in complete, coherant sentences.
49 posted on 02/29/2004 8:24:16 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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To: maestro
Maranatha

Yes, the Lord came to provide us a path to heaven and when he was man he did not speak in tongues to his fellow man for then they would have learned nothing.

50 posted on 02/29/2004 8:25:18 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: maestro
Ah,.....The 'blind' could really appreciate this movie!

No, 80% visual.

51 posted on 02/29/2004 8:25:26 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Mr. Silverback
The best article on "The Passion" so far is , believe it or not, in Sunday's Jerusalem Post. Michael Novak wrote a fascinating piece. It's too lengthy to post here.
52 posted on 02/29/2004 8:27:06 PM PST by cookcounty (presenting JFKerry ---the only man to have been on BOTH sides of 3 wars!)
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To: time4good
A small concern I have about the film is that people will be satisfied with it alone and not seek for a great understanding through the Word.
53 posted on 02/29/2004 8:27:14 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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To: time4good; wirestripper; Zechariah11
Yep!

Sovereign Providence!

(Romans 10:17)

Maranatha!!

54 posted on 02/29/2004 8:28:37 PM PST by maestro
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To: Zechariah11
This is a futile exercise

Yes, certainly, but I have little to do at this time....(I am way too tenacious)

Perhaps I might learn something that I did not know before. (my only hope)

55 posted on 02/29/2004 8:29:02 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Zechariah11
Don't worry. The same Holy Spirit who told Phillip to run alongside the Ethiopian in the carriage who's interest was piqued (sp?) while reading Isaiah will be working in people's hearts today on the questioning and explaining sides respectively.
56 posted on 02/29/2004 8:31:42 PM PST by time4good
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To: jwalsh07
Yes, the Lord came to provide us a path to heaven and when he was man he did not speak in tongues to his fellow man for then they would have learned nothing.

Amen!!!..........BTTT

57 posted on 02/29/2004 8:33:40 PM PST by maestro
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To: maestro
Sovereign Providence!

Providence: 103 St. John's: 78

UCLA?

Not yet.

58 posted on 02/29/2004 8:33:51 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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To: Zechariah11
that people will be satisfied with it alone

A perspective that many Ministers have. (I wonder why, LOL)

They fear misunderstanding.(they are wrong)

I think people will seek out knowledge when they want more.

This film, if anything, has done something that they cannot do from the pulpit.

It has made personal, the relationsip with Jesus. They will never forget the feeling or the knowlege.

I suspect that many will come to the church that had not come before.

But the Church had better have something to offer them.

59 posted on 02/29/2004 8:35:41 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: wirestripper
But the Church had better have something to offer them.

How about an in-depth study of relevant Scriptures (OT and NT). They could exposit the relevant prophetic and Gospel passages. But please not the feel-good tripe they have been offering for the last fifty years.

60 posted on 02/29/2004 8:40:33 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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