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Art that Transcends: THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST
BreakPoint with Charles Colson ^ | 27 Feb 04 | Charles Colson

Posted on 02/27/2004 12:39:08 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: Zechariah11
Sounds good to me!
61 posted on 02/29/2004 8:41:29 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Zechariah11
Ehhhh....Ahemmmmmm.

Preacher?(you?)

62 posted on 02/29/2004 8:42:56 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: wirestripper
I'm going to call it a night, but please ping me on further takes about this awesome movie. I'd appreciate reading more of what you have to contribute.
63 posted on 02/29/2004 8:44:56 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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To: Zechariah11
Sure!

Did you see the rather unabashed review that I wrote?

64 posted on 02/29/2004 8:46:22 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: wirestripper
Not a preacher. In fact I stopped attending church some time back. It became too patronizing, too contemporary. I LOVE the Word, however, and find a way to aaccess fine Bible teaching. Have a good night.
65 posted on 02/29/2004 8:47:21 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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To: Zechariah11
We have much in common.
66 posted on 02/29/2004 8:48:57 PM PST by Cold Heat (In politics stupidity is not a handicap. --Napoleon Bonapart)
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To: Zechariah11
100% God and 100% man - at the same time. Only been done once - and only God could do it.
67 posted on 02/29/2004 9:01:31 PM PST by 185JHP ( "And the pure in heart shall see god.")
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To: 185JHP
100% God and 100% man - at the same time. Only been done once - and only God could do it.

Amen!!!

68 posted on 03/01/2004 6:54:28 PM PST by maestro
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To: maestro
Thanks.
69 posted on 03/01/2004 6:58:17 PM PST by 185JHP ( "And the pure in heart shall see god.")
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To: Zechariah11
You misunderstand. Jesus and the Pharisees used the scriptures differently. Jesus taught; the Pharisees distorted.

I teach math, but I remembered I do have a dictionary in my classroom. I looked up Gnostic. I see where maestro is coming from. He behaves like a Pharisee. I am not impressed.

70 posted on 03/03/2004 10:46:45 AM PST by ostephani
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To: Zechariah11

I ignore any negative comments on The Passion threads made by those who did not see it. They have no clue...
71 posted on 03/03/2004 10:56:26 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Zechariah11
"A small concern I have about the film is that people will be satisfied with it alone and not seek for a great understanding through the Word."

Interesting concern. Hopefully it will drive the individual to read what is Written.
72 posted on 03/03/2004 11:00:03 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Interesting concern. Hopefully it will drive the individual to read what is Written.

Thanks.

I was heartened to see a professor from Dallas Seminary defend The Passion on O'Reilly. Dallas TS is like the summa cum laude of Baptist (dispensationalist) seminaries. That was probably not noticed by too many of O'Reilly's viewers

The defenders of the film now need to turn to the Word for a more sustaining love of Christ. Impressions and emotions drawn from the film are strong but fleeting. However, the Word, our "daily bread" is able to occupy our thoughts today and years from now.

73 posted on 03/04/2004 5:57:31 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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To: Zechariah11
"I was heartened to see a professor from Dallas Seminary defend The Passion on O'Reilly. Dallas TS is like the summa cum laude of Baptist (dispensationalist) seminaries. That was probably not noticed by too many of O'Reilly's viewers."

I missed this OReilly show. Thus far what I have been reminded of by those who preach/teach Christ do so under their shingle. What Christianity has become today is very well described by John in those seven churches he saw in the Spirit on the Lord's Day.

The one thing that I have not heard mentioned being in this film was that miracle given to each and every individual was as He gave up the spirit, that veil was rent in twain in the holy of the holies, from top to bottom. Flesh man, now had access to the Heavenly Father through Christ, and no more blood sacrifices, He became our Priest.

There is one thing that few will be able to claim after this movie, they never heard of Christ. The sands of time keep flowing through our Heavenly Father's hour glass of time.





74 posted on 03/04/2004 6:19:28 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Thus far what I have been reminded of by those who preach/teach Christ do so under their shingle.

But my point is the very opposite. You have many who are very much under the non-Catholic "shingle" rallying to this film.

(The movie did not show that) the veil was rent in twain in the holy of the holies, from top to bottom. . . man, now had access to the Heavenly Father through Christ, and no more blood sacrifices,

This is a very good point you are making here. The post-crucifixion earthquake damage depicted within the temple conveyed this somewhat. But your broader point --access to the Father -- may not have been conveyed as strongly. But here I think that you run up against the limitation of movie-making.
Did the movie adequately represent the deity of Christ in the person of the actor? Obviously not. On the other hand, there were contemporaries of Christ who did not behold that deity when they were in the very presence of our Lord.

75 posted on 03/04/2004 6:47:11 PM PST by Zechariah11 ("so they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.")
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To: Zechariah11
"But my point is the very opposite. You have many who are very much under the non-Catholic "shingle" rallying to this film."

This true and I see your point.

"Did the movie adequately represent the deity of Christ in the person of the actor? Obviously not. On the other hand, there were contemporaries of Christ who did not behold that deity when they were in the very presence of our Lord."

I can't even imagine what it would be like to be in His presence.


76 posted on 03/04/2004 6:55:47 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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