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Hillary: Iraqi Women Better Off Under Saddam
NewsMax ^ | 2/27/04 | Limbacher

Posted on 02/27/2004 8:32:32 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Sen. Hillary Clinton said this week that Iraqi women were better off under Saddam Hussein, arguing that when the brutal dictator ran the country women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life.

In comments that went unreported by the mainstream press, the former first lady told the Brookings Institution on Wednesday that since Saddam's removal from power, Iraq's post war governing councils had engaged in "pullbacks in the rights [women] were given under Saddam Hussein."

Sen. Clinton noted that while Saddam had been "an equal opportunity oppressor," women were at least assured certain constitutional guarantees.

While ignoring reports about the brutal dictator's rape rooms and other forms of persecution that were routine for women under his regime, Sen. Clinton insisted: "On paper, women had rights."

And for Iraqi women, those paper promises translated into real benefits, she claimed.

"They went to school; they participated in the professions, they participated in the government and business and, as long as they stayed out of [Saddam's] way, they had considerable freedom of movement," Clinton insisted.

But since Saddam's removal, the plight of Iraq's women has taken a significant turn for the worse, she contended.

"Now, what we see happening in Iraq is the governing council attempting to shift large parts of civl law into religious jurisdiction," Sen. Clinton explained, saying the loss of Saddam's guarantees amounted to a "horrific mistake" for women.

During her trip to Iraq last November, Clinton said Iraqi women told her personally how they felt less safe since the U.S. deposed Saddam.

"Women tell me they can't leave their homes, they can't go about their daily business. And there is a concerted effort to burn schools that are educating girls [and] to intimidate aid workers who are women," the leading Democrat complained.

The former first lady called on President Bush to issue a statement that the U.S. "will not become the vehicle by which women's rights in Iraq are turned back."

A full transcript of Sen. Clinton's remarks is available on the Brookings Institution Web site at: http://www.brook.edu/dybdocroot/comm/events/20040225.pdf. Her remarks on the worsening plight of Iraqi women can be found on pages 36, 37, and 38.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beech; bich; brookingsinstitution; clintoontraitor; hillary; hillarytraitor; iraqiwomen; outrageousdems; traitor
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
A real pissant.
Is this how she hopes to garner the women's vote in '08?
81 posted on 02/27/2004 9:50:47 AM PST by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: hattend
Thanks for the heads up on where it's at in the transcript.

I am reading the whole thing and I'm on page eight where she falsely implies we don't have a framework in mind of what type of governance should be implemented.

Bush and Bremer have both been very clear on it, and it is not the ascendance of theologic rulers.

Will keep reading...
82 posted on 02/27/2004 9:52:25 AM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
While ignoring reports about the brutal dictator's rape rooms and other forms of persecution that were routine for women under his regime, Sen. Clinton insisted: "On paper, women had rights."

Hey, who's to argue with the "smartest woman in the world"?

That profound statement in itself is proof enough of Hitlery's deserving of such a title. Don't ya' think?

83 posted on 02/27/2004 9:59:33 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Hillry is talking to the minority of Iraq. Saddams wives..... i.e. Saddam the most recent Stalin reincarnation
84 posted on 02/27/2004 10:02:59 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cyncooper
I love how she says we are now "in a rush" to turn over the reigns of power to Iraquis. This after she and her fellow Dems were pounding Bush about getting out of the country ("it's a quagmire" comes to mind)

"I have argued for combining a turnover of the political reigns being done in a more timely and thoughtful way."

What a lying whore.
85 posted on 02/27/2004 10:08:43 AM PST by hattend
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Hitlery : Idiot of Decade!

Thanks for posting the article again showing what a genius she is.

86 posted on 02/27/2004 10:08:49 AM PST by DollyCali (2004: Opportunity for love, growth, giving, doing..... It is our choice.)
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To: Calpernia
No more would we be allowed to teach in Kurdish.

Ah, well there is your answer. She is a Kurd, which is a lower life form to the Baathists and Democrats.

Ranking just below Jews and White Western Europeans, the Kurds deserve what Sadaam gave them. Just ask any Democrat.

87 posted on 02/27/2004 10:09:20 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Democrats want to ban sex with animals! They may get hurt!)
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To: hattend
"Page 19."

Thanks. For some reason the "find" wasn't working on this document.

I didn't feel like reading all of what Hillary had to say. Have you found the rest of what the NewMax article says?

88 posted on 02/27/2004 10:10:42 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
It's spread thoughout the whole document. NewsMax did seem to attribute some quotes out of context.

Hillary still sucks.
89 posted on 02/27/2004 10:13:42 AM PST by hattend
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To: valkyrieanne
"If the Shi'ite majority *do* end up getting a government based on Islamic law, women in Iraq *will* end up in a terrible fix. They will be living under Iranian conditions or worse. Our occupation czar is putting off an election as long as he can for that very reason. He knows that if one were held tomorrow, the shi'ite fundamentalists would have sha'ria law next week, and then it's back to the good old 8th century."

This is so true. What Iraq needs is a secular government, and it's not likely to get it with the Shi'ites. I've been reading some books like "The Bookseller of Kabul" and "Reading Lolita in Tehran," and they put a human face on what women have to live with in Afghanistan, Iran, and the other countries that have sha'ria law.

But I would never go so far to say that Iraq would be better off under Saddam.
90 posted on 02/27/2004 10:14:41 AM PST by sweetjane
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
i'm no fan of the clintons, but it's newsmax. better to read the transcripts for context.
91 posted on 02/27/2004 10:16:25 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
PLEASE! OH PLEASE TELL ME WE GOT THIS COMMENT ON TAPE!!
92 posted on 02/27/2004 10:20:24 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: cyncooper
I don't think valkyrieanne was saying women in Iraq were better off under Saddam. I think the point is that women in Iraq will not be well off under the Shi'ites if they come to power because the Shi'ites will likely institute sha'ria law, where women lose all or most rights and are forced to wear the veil.
93 posted on 02/27/2004 10:21:42 AM PST by sweetjane
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
While ignoring reports about the brutal dictator's rape rooms and other forms of persecution that were routine for women under his regime, Sen. Clinton insisted: "On paper, women had rights."

You see, *that's* what matters to these ivory tower, head-up-their-asses leftists -- what's "on paper." During the Rodham-Clinton presidency, what mattered most was getting some psychopath dictator (be it Kim Jong-il or yassir arafart) to sign some silly paper, agreeing to something they'd never honor. Just like Neville Chamberlain frantically waving that piece of paper and shrieking about "Peace in our time!"

94 posted on 02/27/2004 10:21:44 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; nickcarraway; JohnHuang2; Mr. Silverback; Coleus; summer; Mo1; cgk; ...
Sen. Hillary Clinton said this week that Iraqi women were better off under Saddam Hussein, arguing that when the brutal dictator ran the country women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life.

Then Enemy from Within Ping!

95 posted on 02/27/2004 10:22:49 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Wait4Truth; Publius6961; jimbo123; deadhead; Toespi; texasbluebell; Moonmad27; nicmarlo; Mia T; ...
Sen. Hillary Clinton said this week that Iraqi women were better off under Saddam Hussein, arguing that when the brutal dictator ran the country women were at least assured the right to participate in Iraq's public life.

Then Enemy from Within Ping!

96 posted on 02/27/2004 10:24:10 AM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Thanks, Hillary! You are giving us plenty of ammunition for future freeps!
97 posted on 02/27/2004 10:24:14 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

98 posted on 02/27/2004 10:24:48 AM PST by Born Conservative (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps.)
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To: hattend
She says this administration pursued a "unilateral" approach even before 9/11.

She says before going into Iraq they were "dismissive" of the UN, but now turns to them for help.

She cites Kosovo and Nato as examples of how to do it the right way as opposed to the Bush administration's handling of Iraq, and claims "we're" seen as liberators not occupiers there, implying the reverse in Iraq.

Then she says it. After laying out the premise of "even before 9/11", she says (obviously referring to her "husband's" administration):

Cooperative international efforts did help prevent terrorist attacks before 9/11: prevented terrorists from blowing up airliners; attacking major targets during the millenium and I think there are other examples that all of you know that we could point to.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like she's back to blaming President Bush for 9/11.

99 posted on 02/27/2004 10:27:23 AM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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To: sweetjane
I understood exactly what she said.
100 posted on 02/27/2004 10:30:04 AM PST by cyncooper ("Maybe they were hoping he'd lose the next Iraqi election")
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