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No Boy Scouts: The ACLU defends NAMBLA.
National Review Online ^ | February 27, 2004 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 02/27/2004 8:21:32 AM PST by xsysmgr

An old friend of mine once said this about the American Civil Liberties Union: "They're a bunch of whale-saving, criminal-loving pinkos — and thank God for them."

This remark nicely summarizes the ambivalence with which many people regard the ACLU. Few organizations dance closer to the very edge of the loony-Left precipice than it does. There seems to be no thug too hardened nor any cause too exotic for the ACLU to champion. At the same time, if America ever were unlucky enough to face a president who decided to remain in the Oval Office past her expiration date, the ACLU would battle her and her junta with every sharp courtroom argument, pointed legal filing, and well-aimed briefcase it could muster.

That said, the ACLU lately has stained the dark side of its reputation through its actions in two cases involving the treatment of vulnerable, young Americans. The ACLU is defending those who abuse children while attacking those who give them moral guidance. This contrast reveals the priorities of today's ACLU.

The Manhattan-based public-interest law firm is defending the North American Man-Boy Love Association in a $200 million civil lawsuit filed by Mr. and Mrs. Robert Curley. The Curleys claim that Charles Jaynes was driven by the literature and website of NAMBLA, an outfit that advocates sex between grown men and little boys, reportedly as young as age 8.

Jaynes did not simply read NAMBLA's materials and ponder its message. He and Salvatore Sicari actively sought a boy with whom to copulate. They picked 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge, Massachusetts. They lured him into their car as he played outside his home in October 1997. When Curley resisted their sexual advances, they choked him to death with a gasoline-soaked rag. Then they took the boy's body across state lines to Jayne's apartment in Manchester, New Hampshire. They molested the cadaver and stuffed it into a cement-filled Rubbermaid container. Finally, they crossed state lines again into Maine, whereupon they tossed Jeffrey Curley's remains into the Great Works River, from which it was recovered within days. Jaynes and Sicari were convicted of these crimes in 1998, for which they are serving life sentences.

So why blame NAMBLA? Is it any more responsible for this atrocity than is Vintage Books, the publisher of Vladimir Nabokov's Lolita? Imagine that Jaynes and Sicari had read that 1955 novel about a middle-aged intellectual's affair with a 12-year-old girl. What if these two men found an equally young female who they abused and killed, just as they murdered Jeffrey Curley in real life? Putting aside the fact that Lolita is a work of fiction, would Vintage Books face civil justice?

Probably not, nor would NAMBLA if it limited its output to fictional depictions of "man-boy love." It is difficult to pin imaginary crimes on actual criminals who turn make-believe into mayhem.

Within the realm of nonfiction, as revolting as its ideas are, NAMBLA certainly has a First Amendment right to argue that America's laws should be changed to permit sexual relations between adult men and third-grade school boys. Most Americans would disagree vehemently, as well they should. That's called debate. It's the American way.

As ACLU of Massachusetts Legal Director John Reinstein sees it: "Regardless of whether people agree with or abhor NAMBLA's views, holding the organization responsible for crimes committed by others who read their materials would gravely endanger important First Amendment freedoms."

However, as Fox News' Bill O'Reilly noted, there is more at play here than pamphleteering. "According to lawyers familiar with [NAMBLA's] website," O'Reilly explained, "it actually posted techniques designed to lure boys into having sex with men and also supplied information on what an adult should do if caught."

NAMBLA is "not just publishing material that says it's OK to have sex with children and advocating changing the law," says Larry Frisoli, a Cambridge attorney who is arguing the Curleys case in federal court. NAMBLA, he says, "is actively training their members how to rape children and get away with it. They distribute child pornography and trade live children among NAMBLA members with the purpose of having sex with them."

Frisoli cites a NAMBLA publication he calls "The Rape and Escape Manual." Its actual title is "The Survival Manual: The Man's Guide to Staying Alive in Man-Boy Sexual Relationships."

"Its chapters explain how to build relationships with children," Frisoli tells me. "How to gain the confidence of children's parents. Where to go to have sex with children so as not to get caught...There is advice, if one gets caught, on when to leave America and how to rip off credit card companies to get cash to finance your flight. It's pretty detailed."

"In his diary, Jaynes said he had reservations about having sex with children until he discovered NAMBLA," Frisoli continues. "It's in his diary in 1996, around the time he joined NAMBLA, one year before the death of Jeffrey Curley."

The practical, step-by-step advice Jaynes followed goes far beyond appeals to sway public opinion in favor of pedophilia. Such language aids and abets felonious conduct. If such conspiracy results in homicide, it is reasonable for NAMBLA to face civil liability if not criminal prosecution.

Ohio's Court of Appeals found NAMBLA complicit in an earlier child-rape case. NAMBLA's literature, discovered in a defendant's possession, reflected "preparation and purpose," according to the Buckeye State's top bench.

The ACLU has offered material support to those who openly preach pedophilia and arguably encourage kidnapping, rape, and murder. Yet this legal group is energetically hostile to an organization that tries to turn boys into men, with sex alien to the process.

Since 1915, the Boy Scouts have managed land within San Diego's Balboa Park. It has built a swimming pool, a 600-seat amphitheater, and a camping facility that accommodates 300. Camp Balboa serves some 12,000 Boy Scouts annually through daylong events and weekend sleepovers. The Scouts' tie to this land is a 50-year lease offered by the San Diego City Council and signed in 1957. In exchange for their stewardship — including private investment for maintenance and development — the Scouts hand the city an annual lease payment of $1.00.

This arrangement is too much for the ACLU to swallow. It sued the City of San Diego to expel the Boy Scouts from Balboa Park. The ACLU contends that the Scouts are a religious organization and thus should be dislodged from the facility. Never mind that the Scouts did not bar other groups from using the park. In fact, according to Hans Zeiger, an 18-year-old Eagle Scout who has written about this controversy, Balboa Park hosted last summer's San Diego Gay Pride Festival.

Clinton-appointed U.S. District Judge Napoleon Jones deemed the Boy Scouts a religious organization last July and declared that their involvement with Balboa Park violated the separation of church and state. The ACLU used this ruling to secure a settlement wherein the City of San Diego cancelled the Scouts' lease on the park, even though it did not expire until 2007 and, in fact, was extended in 2001 for 25 years. The ACLU also scored $950,000 in attorneys fees and court costs, thus fleecing taxpayers and deepening its pockets.

San Diego's Boy Scouts are appealing Judge Jones' ruling. A federal judge someday may decide whether or not the Scouts' good deeds will go unpunished.

The ACLU's supporters should contemplate where this organization has placed itself vis-à-vis NAMBLA and the Boy Scouts. The ACLU seemingly believes that everyone deserves a lawyer, no matter how odious his case. Perhaps, although it would be nice to see NAMBLA siphon its own bank account rather than the ACLU's to justify its evil ways. The ACLU decides for itself where to devote its finite resources. Hence, its leaders freely chose to stand with cheerleaders for pederasty while torpedoing those who mentor rather than rape little boys.

Today's ACLU makes one wish it would find some whales to save.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aclu; boyscouts; bsa; deroymurdock; gayclu; homosexualagenda; nambla; pedophiles; perverts
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To: Barnacle
Concerning the RC's report on its problem priests, did you see "Uncle Bob" Bennett on The Newshour with Margaret Warner Friday night? He put on a masterful display of speaking at length while saying the absolute minimum possible. His was a tour de force of "ummm" and "ahhhh", hemming, hawing, backtracking and bafflegabbing.

That's why they pay Uncle Bob the big bucks!

61 posted on 02/28/2004 2:43:01 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
How is that for a theory?

Well, it draws a picture of intelligent malice directed against the character of the American people. To discover its source, ask the question the CIA always teaches its people to ask: Cui bono? Who benefits?

My answer is twofold:

1. The totalitarian Socialist meme and its supporters (the Left).

2. Artisan personalities (i.e. artsy-fartsy people) who can't stand, or have very little patience with, concepts of law, tradition, and the organic nature of society, and particularly its little idiosyncratic rules about not polluting kids or not spreading social diseases.

It is not a huge contradiction to say that the artisan personalities (in H'wood they predominate) who support the Left would be much more miserable under an authoritarian or totalist regime than they are at present. They just can't stand any kind of authority.

62 posted on 02/28/2004 3:03:51 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: spodefly
The ACLU is not fighting for principles that I happen to believe in.....

The ACLU is fighting for a World Order of international Socialism -- the ideals of the old COMINTERN. Not surprising considering their origins, and not surprising, either, that as you say they would support anything that harms American political, legal, moral, and social institutions.

To build Socialism, you must first destroy what exists, without fear or favor.

63 posted on 02/28/2004 3:06:54 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: chatham
I just read in Michael Savage's book the "Enemy within" that Ruth Bader Ginsberg was Chief Councel for the A.C.L.U.

She argued the plaintiff brief in Roe vs. Wade. The Left has always put their spear-carriers on the Court whenever they got the chance -- Thurgood Marshall is another case in point.

But nominate someone like Robert Bork, and watch what happens!

If Hillary gets in, you can count on seeing Janet Reno on the Supreme Court bench (if she's well enough), Mario Cuomo, Charlie Schumer, William Wayne Justice, Evan Wolfson (formerly of Lambda Legal), Dianne Feinstein, Morris Dees of SPLC, Eleanor Smeal -- all the great ones. She'll go for the ideologues.

Come to think of it, someone pass a note to William Rehnquist -- if Hillary gets in, no two Justices had better be on the same airplane any more!!

64 posted on 02/28/2004 3:16:06 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: lentulusgracchus
"It is not a huge contradiction to say that the artisan personalities (in H'wood they predominate) who support the Left would be much more miserable under an authoritarian or totalist regime than they are at present. They just can't stand any kind of authority"

True-they can't stand authority, but here is also something to think about... if you allow your self to be a slave, you have no need for self responsibility. You are not responsible for any of your actions, because you are just following orders.

IMO The left mistakenly thinks if they can get their guys in power ( socialists) the authority will tell have them do what they already want to do. The misunderstanding is that they are just pasties to the socialists who will say anything enticing to get the power.

The socialists play to the lowest common denominator.. they find the weak of spirit, with no courage and tell them everything is fair game- be who you want, and we will take care of you... they are just slaves, and IMO these kinds of people can only function when someone else holds all the cards.

They just don't want the guy holding the cards to tell them to think for themselves and pay their own dues, and BTW, do so at the same time for the rest of your lives.

65 posted on 02/28/2004 3:39:30 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: King Prout
Nothing that says one can't or shouldn't be an instrument of karma. The laws of the universe call for responsible action on our part as well. We can't sit back and do nothing, or we're part of the problem and deserve punishment as well. Kind of like collaborators, or people who "look the other way", they are guilty too.

The only reason the "gay" activists and their handmaidens have gotten this far is because those who knew better (or should have) were looking the other way. Maybe changing the channel, making nice with "gays" so as not to cause trouble, pretending to be "goody-goody" and not condemn anyone (maybe so they won't condemn me), politicians playing footsie, who knows.

I have a good friend who has been very active in the pro-family movement and he and his family have, over the years, been threatened with death and bodily harm numerous times, had their cars damaged, had his business closed down, and so on. It takes guts to stand up to this evil. Now is the time for us to stand up, either that or we'll be bending over. The "gay" activists aren't going to be satisfied until our children are in their grip from kindergarten on.
66 posted on 02/28/2004 6:40:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: little jeremiah
you are undoubtedly correct in your last paragraph.
67 posted on 02/28/2004 6:44:42 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
"...they are just pasties..."

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
68 posted on 02/28/2004 6:45:47 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: King Prout
Goo done huh?
69 posted on 02/28/2004 7:24:33 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
yes. goo done
70 posted on 02/28/2004 7:26:45 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: King Prout
heeheehee!
71 posted on 02/28/2004 7:30:15 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I am convinced that there are more problems that have to be uncovered in the Catholic Church. One of the biggest problems with the report as is stands is that it is based on uncorroborated information from the 195 bishops in America. It is plain to see that in a few of diocese, the bishops themselves are the root of the problems. There is no way that their reports can be reliable. Much more is going to have to be done by non-diocesan entities to get to the truth in those cases.
72 posted on 02/28/2004 7:40:05 PM PST by Barnacle (And you can quote me on that)
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