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No Boy Scouts: The ACLU defends NAMBLA.
National Review Online ^ | February 27, 2004 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 02/27/2004 8:21:32 AM PST by xsysmgr

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To: SengirV
Is this what htey are teaching in "Eglish" classes now-a-days? You must replace EVERY masculine pronoun with feminine pronouns, even in cases where the objects is unlikely to be female?

In the context it actually makes sense. All the males left office with no problem. This hypothetical is probably talking about if we were ever dumb enough to elect Hillary, you would have to pull her by the hair kicking and screaming to remove her from office.

21 posted on 02/27/2004 9:13:47 AM PST by Always Right
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To: EdReform
I am not saying it doesn't happen, I am saying the ACLU will go on talk shows to defend the rights of NAMBLA- and hardly anyone blinks an eye. If they were to show their faces in public supporting men's rights to have sex with little girls, even the dingy "soccer Moms" would get upset.
22 posted on 02/27/2004 9:14:11 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Sabertooth
Homosexuals have done incredible damage in the Catholic Church. Because they were not promptly kicked out, many lives were ruined, many people have lost their faith and the liabilities will cost the faithful millions if not billions of dollars.

The perverted homosexual agenda must be stopped. The Boy Scouts of America have been wise and heroic in their efforts in protecting their boys and the organization as a whole. Too bad the same can't be said for the Girl Scouts.
23 posted on 02/27/2004 9:23:57 AM PST by Barnacle (And you can quote me on that)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Actually, the "Pedophilia Chic" article says exactly that - here's an excerpt:


Four-plus years and many other challenges to the same taboo later, it is clear that this hypothesis got something wrong. For one thing, no sustained public challenges have arisen over other primal taboos. Even more telling, if nihilism and nihilism alone were the explanation for public attempts to legitimize sex with boy children, then we would expect the appearance of related attempts to legitimize sex with girl children; and these we manifestly do not see. Nobody, but nobody, has been allowed to make the case for girl pedophilia with the backing of any reputable institution. Publishing houses are not putting out acclaimed anthologies and works of fiction that include excerpts of men having sex with young girls. Psychologists and psychiatrists are not competing with each other to publish studies demonstrating that the sexual abuse of girls is inconsequential; or, indeed, that it ought not even be defined as "abuse."

Two examples from the last few weeks will suffice to show the double standard here. In the November 12 New York Times Book Review, a writer found it unremarkable to observe of his subject, biographer Gavin Lambert, that when "Lambert was a schoolboy of 11, a teacher initiated him [into homosexuality], and he 'felt no shame or fear, only gratitude.'" It is unimaginable that New York Times editors would allow a reviewer to describe an 11-year-old girl being sexually "initiated" by any adult (in that case, "initiation" would be called "sexual abuse"). Similarly, in mid-December the New York Times Magazine delivered a cover piece about gay teenagers in cyberspace which was so blasé about the older men who seek out boys in chat rooms that it dismissed those potential predators as mere "oldies." Again, one can only imagine the public outcry had the same magazine published a story taking the same so-what approach to online solicitation, off-line trysts, and pornography "sharing" between anonymous men and underage girls.

No: As was true four years ago, contemporary efforts to rationalize, legitimize, and justify pedophilia are about boys. Forget about abstractions like nihilism; what the record shows is something more prosaic. The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this "question," settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement. The more that movement has entered the mainstream, the more this "question" has bubbled forth from that previously distant realm into the public square. It should go without saying, though under the circumstances it cannot, that many, many leaders and members of that movement draw a firm line at consenting adults, want no part of any such "debate," and are in fact disgusted and appalled by it. Then there are other opinions...."


24 posted on 02/27/2004 9:24:52 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - All donations are greatly appreciated. Thank you for your support!)
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To: Sloth
Thats what I thought when I read it. Now not only is the left gearing us up for a Hillary presidency, but they are preparing us for the possibility that the Dems will attempt to revise the two term limit and keep her there as long as possible.
25 posted on 02/27/2004 9:44:30 AM PST by bird4four4
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To: EdReform
Not only is this a PC gay rights agenda issue, it is a concentrated movement to take power away from males, esp. white males.

If they ( Homosexuals and socialists) can screw the males up enough , then these little boys won't have the power to run for public office in the future ,and use as a paltform that people be responsible for themselves.

IT is equal to ADD, ADHD, the NEA homosexual agenda, our justice system for divorced Dads, and a determined effort to confuse, neglect and abuse boys into submission to the homosexuals, for the greed of the socialists.

How is that for a theroy?

26 posted on 02/27/2004 9:45:57 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Sabertooth; EdReform; Happy2BMe; *Homosexual Agenda; yall
Unbelievable !!:

The Manhattan-based public-interest law firm is defending the North American Man-Boy Love Association in a $200 million civil lawsuit filed by Mr. and Mrs. Robert Curley. The Curleys claim that Charles Jaynes was driven by the literature and website of NAMBLA, an outfit that advocates sex between grown men and little boys, reportedly as young as age 8.

Jaynes did not simply read NAMBLA's materials and ponder its message. He and Salvatore Sicari actively sought a boy with whom to copulate. They picked 10-year-old Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge, Massachusetts. They lured him into their car as he played outside his home in October 1997. When Curley resisted their sexual advances, they choked him to death with a gasoline-soaked rag. Then they took the boy's body across state lines to Jayne's apartment in Manchester, New Hampshire. They molested the cadaver and stuffed it into a cement-filled Rubbermaid container. Finally, they crossed state lines again into Maine, whereupon they tossed Jeffrey Curley's remains into the Great Works River, from which it was recovered within days. Jaynes and Sicari were convicted of these crimes in 1998, for which they are serving life sentences.


27 posted on 02/27/2004 10:19:03 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: xsysmgr
Where are the posts from ConsistentLibertarian, the great defender of the ACLU?
28 posted on 02/27/2004 10:19:51 AM PST by beelzepug
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To: xsysmgr
ACLU = throwing monkey wrenches into Americas judicial system for decades and that exactely is the purpose and reason for their existance. They are very good at it too. Not SOLVING judicial problems but creating them is their expertise.

Whats wrong with Bob Barr(R)(ACLU lawyer) ?.. He knows this yet remains. However, he could be dumber than he looks, thats possible, but not probable..

29 posted on 02/27/2004 10:31:03 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: xsysmgr
There seems to be an increase in the boldness of the Fabian Socialist outlets in America. Even as the writer notes, in effect, the ACLU seems to be really coming out of the closet now, in displaying its Leftist priorities. Meanwhile the ADL, an oraganization with which the ACLU has worked in tandem--save for only one incident that I can recall--over the past 80+ years, has actually tried to prevent the screening of Mel Gibson's Christian movie epic. Meanwhile, other Leftist groups are busy smearing those who stand up against the tide of illegal entrants across our Southern border.

Everywhere, there is a new truculence on the far Left, as though they sense their moment for final triumph is at hand.

Obviously, supporting perverts preying on children, is not what Civil Liberties are all about. Obviously, trying to suppress the seminal event in Christian theology, is not likely to improve relations between Christians and Jews. Obviously, America has a right to defend her borders. The tragedy is that she is not doing so. But in each of these instances, the Fabians have thrown off any pretense of a rational connection to their once avowed moderate pursposes. It is now open war on the basics of our social orders. Why this upping of the ante against civilization?

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

30 posted on 02/27/2004 10:32:31 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: xsysmgr
In fact, according to Hans Zeiger, an 18-year-old Eagle Scout

It seems to me that Hans Zeiger has been 18 an awfully long time.

31 posted on 02/27/2004 10:33:44 AM PST by mrustow
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To: Ohioan
Why this upping of the ante against civilization?

it's sort of like the way a rat responds aggressively to being pushed into a corner.

32 posted on 02/27/2004 10:36:12 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Sloth
if i remember correctly,a few years ago, a guy named tom metzger went to prison for inciting the death of a black man in washington...metzger was in southern cal at the time and a couple of skinheads heard him talk and went out and killed a black man in washington...tom metzger got prison time for inciting them to murder...how come it doesn't work when homosexual perverts incite someone to murder children?????????
33 posted on 02/27/2004 10:42:44 AM PST by fishbabe
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To: Sabertooth
Given the rate we are going, these monsters will want to "marry" the dead bodies of the 10 year old boys they rape and murder.

Given the time scale of our vortex into Soddom, I predict San Francisco and New York will grant them marriage licenses in about 3 weeks.

34 posted on 02/27/2004 10:53:23 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Sabertooth
At the same time, if America ever were unlucky enough to face a president who decided to remain in the Oval Office past her expiration date, the ACLU would battle her and her junta with every sharp courtroom argument, pointed legal filing, and well-aimed briefcase it could muster.

I really do doubt this.

35 posted on 02/27/2004 2:44:30 PM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: SkyPilot
Given the rate we are going, these monsters will want to "marry" the dead bodies of the 10 year old boys they rape and murder

Which is what I think is the ultimate goal here, based on an incremental approach. Once "gay marriage" is legitimized, then you can work on the age of consent - and voila, the NAMBLA agenda is accomplished.

These are pathological monsters. The fact that they are unrelenting in their pursuit of these goals is not surprizing - after all, psychopaths are relentless.

36 posted on 02/27/2004 3:10:19 PM PST by Regulator
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To: xsysmgr
"The ACLU also scored $950,000 in attorneys fees and court costs, thus fleecing taxpayers and deepening its pockets."

And this is perhaps the main reason the "scum sucking" Lawyers sign on to serve the ACLU. Oh sure, I know they have to believe in their cause to some degree. But if the payment for services wasn't such a sure thing, you wouldn't see near as many Elitist minded, or opportunistic Lawyers sign on in the first place.

For some: It pays to be immoral. (but only temporarily)

37 posted on 02/27/2004 4:13:45 PM PST by Hillarys nightmare (Limbaugh is the single Greatest Human alive in the world today; and thank GOD he is an American!)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping. The ACLU (All Criminals Love Us) stands up for NAMBLA.

If anyone wants on or off this list, ping me.

38 posted on 02/27/2004 4:56:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Hillarys nightmare
"The ACLU also scored $950,000 in attorneys fees and court costs, thus fleecing taxpayers and deepening its pockets." And this is perhaps the main reason the "scum sucking" Lawyers sign on to serve the ACLU. Oh sure, I know they have to believe in their cause to some degree. But if the payment for services wasn't such a sure thing, you wouldn't see near as many Elitist minded, or opportunistic Lawyers sign on in the first place. For some: It pays to be immoral. (but only temporarily)

The ACLU is all about money for the shysters. Well, that and destroying the United States.

39 posted on 02/27/2004 5:14:24 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: xsysmgr
Probably 98 % of alcu members of nambla. The other 2% are honary members.
40 posted on 02/27/2004 5:18:48 PM PST by sport
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