[Seruzawa]

You can go back to Truman for the seeds of the war. Ho Chi Minh went to WashDC after the war to offer Cam Ranh Bay as an American Naval base if Truman would keep Roosevelt's promise to refuse to help European nations from reclaiming their colonies. Truman refused to meet Ho and instead supported the French return to Vietnam. In hindsight a horrible blunder.

This and the Koreran War, another Democrat blunder, for some reason get left out of any discussion about the great Truman.

[Valin]

the Koreran War, another Democrat blunder

Blunder? Not hardly.

[Brian Allen]

<< But LBJ had already planned an escalation. In August of 1964 came the Tonkin Gulf incident between U.S. destroyers and North Vietnamese gunboats. A Democratic House voted 416 to 0 and a Democratic Senate 88 to 2 to authorize LBJ to take us into war. >>

The only place the so-called "Tonkin Gulf incident" occured was in the hatred-driven delusional fantasies of such of the un-and-anti-American pantheist-left's pustulant propagandists as the loathsome and fearsome Joseph Goebbels-cloned Bill Moyers and Jack Valente.

And in LBJ's every Moyers-authored military-industrial-complex lickspittling and war-mongering diatribe, from which, let it never be forgotten, failed school-teacher Johnson -- and every other along-for-the-ride "DemocRAT" -- made obscenely-corrupt fortunes.