Posted on 02/26/2004 11:15:11 PM PST by TERMINATTOR
She pointed out how legislators (who are really responsible for the myriad laws we suffer under) are relatively inaccessible. It might be possible for an unhappy citizen to pick off one of them from time to time, but their soldiers who enforce those laws-- the police-- are a lot easier to hit.
I'm fairly unsophisticated when it comes to html, so you'll have to cut and past this:
www.lizmichael.com/mcveigh.htm
Don't let the title put you off; read the whole thing. It's worth it.
Problem #2. That ammo was purchased. It is private property. The government can not force you to "turn it in" without just compensation for the property.
Surprised several oldtimers with what "my" 30-30 would do. ;)
I wouldn't suggest using pointy-tipped bullets in a tube-feed 30-30 unless you want to surprise yourself with what your 30-30 would do. Might not be a bad idea either to set your affairs in order before you pull the trigger. Just for giggles, you might want to take that first shot from behind a very solid wall, and make it via a string tied to the trigger.
Why not? They do it all the time with eminent domain and civil forfeiture.
Eminent domain still requires just compensation. Civil forfeiture happens AFTER you are convicted of a crime. It is part of a formal sentence following due process.
I "am" here today after all. ;)
In theory, sure.
In practice, it ain't happening.
Civil forfeiture happens AFTER you are convicted of a crime. It is part of a formal sentence following due process.
Garcon! I'll have whatever he's smoking.
Not always.
You might want to check the record at FEAR.
BTW, you will for sure want to read The War on Patients over at that site some FReepers avoid like the plague.
As you are painfully aware, there are worse things than becoming an addict.
Perseverance, and God bless.
That's in the old America we knew and loved. Now judges can declare two men to be a marriage, or 2+2=5. They can easily outlaw ammo you legally own. National security, doncha know. It's in the fine print of the Patriot Act already. "Other measures as may be required." Banning deadly armor piercing cop-killer bullets (like 556, 308 etc) would be an easy sell the American sheeple.
Not hardly. Just look at bullet weight, muzzle velocity and 100-yard velocity. (from: Arizona Gun Runners)
Cartridge |
Bullet Type |
Bullet Weight (gr) |
Muzzle feet/sec |
100 yard feet/sec |
7.62x39 |
FMJ |
123 |
2350 |
2072 |
30-30 Win |
FASFHP |
150 |
2100 |
1769 |
7.62 NATO |
FMJ-BT |
147 |
2751 |
2473 |
30-06 |
FMJ |
150 |
2773 |
2542 |
You may have been thinking of 7.62x51 aka 7.62 NATO
Fine, so they'll conduct a giant, and mandatory, "buy back" of the ammunition. What do they care, it's not their money, but yours. Besides you are relying on the protection of the fifth amendment. If they are willing to so blatantly violate the second, why should violating the fifth bother them? When one article of the Bill of Rights goes, and they've been violating several of them for decades, they all will eventually go, either "For the Children" or in the name of "given up essential liberty to obtain temporary (and illusionary) safety"
They could just as easily charge the ammo with a crime. They've done that already with firearms suspected of being used in "drug crimes". Those folks have to sue to get their guns back, even if they, the actual humans, are never convicted of a crime, and often they run out of money before the goverment runs out of yours. The politically incorrect parts of the fifth amendment are in no better oder with the policritters than the entire second amendment is.
Just for kicks I was going to see if they had that 110gr bullet load for the 30-30 I used to like listed.
I don't even remember where I came up with that load,it's so long back(early 60s).
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