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Gibson Receives Standing Ovation on Leno
NewsMax.com ^ | 2/27/04 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 02/26/2004 11:02:02 PM PST by kattracks

Mel Gibson appeared on Jay Leno’s "Tonight Show" – and was greeted by the live audience with a prolonged standing ovation.

Gibson’s appearance on the top-rated late-night program came on the heels of new box office results showing that his new film, "The Passion of the Christ," may be one of the biggest hits of all time.

But box office success hasn’t stopped controversy from swirling around the religious epic.

"Some people thought it was a bad idea," Gibson told Leno about his desire to do the movie on Jesus’ death. The actor said anytime one touches upon politics or religion, that person runs the risk of touching a nerve.

"I didn’t expect to hit a main artery," Gibson said to chuckles from the audience.

Gibson said his film first germinated over a dozen years ago. He said he was unfazed about Hollywood’s criticism of his work.

He said that he discovered in Tinseltown that "you can get a shiv between the shoulder blades and it’s done with a smile."

Still, Gibson said he was shocked by the "pre-judgment and condemnation” which began over a year ago – before anyone had even seen the film.

He told America’s favorite comedian that he was surprised by the attacks against him; including the charge he was an anti-Semite.

"It’s wrong, it’s unconscionable,” he said.

Leno questioned Gibson about the film’s violence.

Gibson readily admitted the film is violent and deserved the R-rating it received. But he added that the violence was not "gratuitous” and, in his opinion, drew a different reaction from audiences who watch, for example, horror films.

Gibson said the film’s message is one of tolerance. He told Leno he chose actor James Caviezel to play Jesus because he projected both a childish innocence and masculinity – consistent with the Biblical Jesus.

Gibson’s decision to produce "Passion” may have earned him at least one fan in Hollywood.

"Thanks for the courage of your convictions,” Leno told Gibson as he concluded his interview.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gibson; leno; passion
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To: Howlin
I wonder how many parents are taking their children to see this?

Not many, I suspect. I wouldn't take my kids to see Saving Private Ryan or Schindler's List either. It's not a concern with them "not being able to handle it". Unfortunately, they see plenty of shocking things in every day's newspaper or on TV. It's more that if the level of (historically accurate and true-to-life) violence is enough to shock me then I would worry that a young child won't be able to see past it to understand what the story is really about.

Based on everything I've heard and read about The Passion it will take a level of knowledge and maturity rare among young children to not be overwhelmed by the raw violence, because of it's accuracy not in spite of it.

101 posted on 02/27/2004 6:49:34 AM PST by katana
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To: Reactionary; RJayneJ
Nominated for Quote of the Day:


Poor little liberals. The cultural divide has just smacked them in their stupid heads and they're not sure how to react.

After all, they've made the case that "freedom of speech" means saturating the culture with plebeian garbage for decades, so it's difficult for them to call for censorship. Instead, they rely on their usual egalitarian morality and try to paint Gibson and as anti-Semite or a retrograde lunatic.

Of course, the people love Gibson and love this movie. They're shocked that their garbage isn't what it used to be.
102 posted on 02/27/2004 6:50:38 AM PST by Liz
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To: tekriter
A wonderful movie, I wonder why it didn't get much attention, or did it?

My son and I watch it all the time. It truly stands the test of time, (if you know what I mean!)
103 posted on 02/27/2004 6:51:16 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Grampa Dave; Cincinatus' Wife
There is something very positive happening with the late 20 something and 30 something group even in California.

We're maturing in a wasteland they're making for all of us. We can see that they were very, very wrong. Before? It was all about work, families, building new things, better things. Service, duty, honor, country. Now it's all about "me." And everything is worse because of it.

They were like de Sade and Marat wreaking their experimental ways on our society. They had no idea where it was going, but they wanted to take us there as fast as possible. Well we know now where that road was leading.

104 posted on 02/27/2004 6:55:29 AM PST by risk
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To: kattracks
I saw it and it was terrific. Mel was able to make a few comments about forgiveness and it was a good interview.

Saddleback Church in Ca is having 2 sermons on Understanding the Passion of the Christ and they had 3000 visitors last Sunday are expecting more than that this next Sunday.

Like the feeding of the 5000 is what it reminded of! God is great!!
105 posted on 02/27/2004 7:03:00 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{---><)
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To: risk
Part of my reply on this thread was:

There is something very positive happening with the late 20 something and 30 something group even in California.

Your Response: "We're maturing in a wasteland they're making for all of us. We can see that they were very, very wrong. Before? It was all about work, families, building new things, better things. Service, duty, honor, country. Now it's all about "me." And everything is worse because of it.

They were like de Sade and Marat wreaking their experimental ways on our society. They had no idea where it was going, but they wanted to take us there as fast as possible. Well we know now where that road was leading.

We older conservatives welcome you, our new and younger conservatives to the cultural war to save our Republic for your generation and those to come!

As I have told you, "I feel better about this cultural war than I have since it started in the late 1960's. We are starting fight back and regain what we lost in the last 4 decades!"

106 posted on 02/27/2004 7:03:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Pope John Paul, ""Family means: 'And He created them man and woman."')
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To: hobson
Jay and Mel have been friends for a long time.They used to play practical jokes on each other. Some years ago it was Jay's birthday and Mel came out on the show with a cake.While Jay was looking at it Mel SHOVED it in his face!Mel ran off stage with Jay throwing cake it him.

I saw the show it was great.I listened closely it was obvious Jay saw the movie.Jay said "your next movie should be about Sodom and Gomorrah". The look Mel gave him was priceless!

As far as Prince,his music was great.

107 posted on 02/27/2004 7:06:11 AM PST by painter
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To: Grampa Dave
Thank you! One thing the hippies didn't realize: the freedom they had to protest and foment and ridicule and hate? It was all provided by selfless G.I.s who were fighting for 250 year-old ideas that they, well the hippies just didn't quite grasp. One clue we had that the hippies were weak: they usually weren't prepared to die for their causes.

They still don't get it. But they're willing to throw it all away. Some of us are hell bent on stopping them from dismantling what was built at Verdun, Tarawa, An Khe, and abord the USS Cole. For some of us, it took 9/11 to realize just how valuable it is.
108 posted on 02/27/2004 7:08:28 AM PST by risk
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To: kattracks
He told America’s favorite comedian that he was surprised by the attacks against him; including the charge he was an anti-Semite.

...America's favorite late night TV talk show host....
109 posted on 02/27/2004 7:08:55 AM PST by aruanan
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To: kattracks
Are the Oscars this weekend??? Who cares? The Passion of the Christ is the hot topic. Although I do hop that LOTR wins. What a one two punch that would be?
110 posted on 02/27/2004 7:10:56 AM PST by mel (God, help me rid myself of this continuing bitterness and hate for revisioinists)
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To: painter
That's a good story, I'm sorry I missed that.
111 posted on 02/27/2004 7:12:00 AM PST by hobson
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To: kattracks
I have to admit I am surprised by this. What I want to know is, why do so many of these people who are clapping for Gibson go out and vote for liberals, who then vote for liberal legislation which has helped destroy the Christian values of this country?
112 posted on 02/27/2004 7:22:58 AM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos! 200 million illegals waiting in the wings)
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To: kattracks
What should be "shocking" to the average joe in America is how "shocked" Hollywood seems to be over this movie. They are shocked that it is doing so well, they are shocked that Mel Gibson would even consider producing it. They are shocked that Americans are flocking to a movie about the evil Christianity.

Each time an independently low budget film that doesn't have tons of sex and violence in it is produced, they do really well. You would think that they would get the idea and start producing more films like this. Ahhh but that would mean that they would no longer be able to use the films to advance their agenda wouldn"t it.

I have a question - are artists naturally ignostic, immoral people or are immoral ignostics drawn to art? Or is this a chicken and egg question?
113 posted on 02/27/2004 7:23:16 AM PST by ODDITHER
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To: JacksonCalhoun
He was in Thin Red Line, one of my favorite flicks.
114 posted on 02/27/2004 7:25:58 AM PST by Porterville (The truth has a ring to it)
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To: kattracks; nutmeg
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MEL's -PASSION- sparked by -WE WERE SOLDIERS-



http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=39081

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115 posted on 02/27/2004 7:27:08 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.come)
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To: risk; nutmeg; Grampa Dave; Maximilian; narses; Land of the Irish; Loyalist; Antoninus; hobbes1
Interesting paper on Gibson's religious motivations.

It may be "interesting," but it is not an accurate description of traditionalist Catholics or their beliefs. He seems to be ignorant of the fact that there are many traditional Catholics who have not separated themselves from the Church. He even contradicts himself when, in the main body of his paper, he states, "Though the [traditional] movement is diverse...", "It is also a mistake to assume that all traditionalists are the same and their concerns are the same. They are a broad, ideologically-divided group...", and "The most radicalized ... adhere to a bizarre doctrine of sede-vacantism," but then in his summary paints all traditionalists as sedevacantists.

He appears to have read all of the mainstream media accounts of traditional Catholicism without having done any original research into the history of the Church. For example, the article claims that " ...the Latin Mass authorized by and in use since the sixteenth-century Council of Trent." The traditional Latin Mass existed long before the Council of Trent. The Council standardized several rites that existed at the time which were slightly different from each other.

There are many more inaccuracies in this paper. I have flagged some FReepers who can explain them better than I.

116 posted on 02/27/2004 7:58:57 AM PST by ELS
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To: ELS
thanks
117 posted on 02/27/2004 8:03:22 AM PST by risk
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To: ELS
Well, he starts off on a false Premise right from the git go.

What Rome speks as to the relationship between SSPX (arguably the spearhead of Tridentine movement) and the Vatican....

I'll excerpt here

(1) In Hawaii in May 1991 Bishop Ferrario decided to excommunicate some followers of the Society of St.Pius X for supporting the Society and attending its Masses. Rome declared that the decision "lacks foundation and hence validity". The excommunication was overturned by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, on June 28, 1993. "From the examination of the case, conducted on the basis of the Law of the Church, it did not result that the facts referred to in the above-mentioned Decreee, are formal schismatic acts in the strict sense, as they do not constitute the offence of schism; and therefore the Congregation holds that the Decree of May 1, 1991, lacks foundation and hence validity" (Apostolic Nunciature, Washington DC) (2) Extract from a reply written on May 3,1994 by Cardinal Edward Casssidy, President of the Pontifical Council for Christian Unity,to an inquiry about the status of the Society of St.Pius X "... Regarding your inquiry (March 25, 1994) I would point out at once that the Directory on Ecumenism is not concerned with the Society of St. Pius X. The situation of the members of this Society is an internal matter of the Catholic Church. The Society is not another Church or Ecclesial Community in the meaning used in the Directory. Of course the Mass and Sacraments administered by the priests of the Society are valid. The Bishops are validly, but not lawfully, consecrated.... I hope this answers your letter satisfactorily."

Hope that helps.

118 posted on 02/27/2004 8:12:30 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: kattracks
BUMP!
119 posted on 02/27/2004 8:13:11 AM PST by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: nutmeg
"This town is rocking," he said, "wondering what it all means. This is the film everyone deemed unreleasable."

For the most part, Hollywood generates dreck that they think the public wants, and a film like the Passion is completely beyond their abilities. Goes to show you how compartmentalized modern culture can be, despite advances in communications, etc. Basically, birds of a feather flock together.

120 posted on 02/27/2004 8:17:00 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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