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Kerry, Edwards to Face Off in California Debate
Reuters ^ | 2-26-04 | John Whitesides

Posted on 02/26/2004 5:18:31 PM PST by jwalburg

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Democratic presidential contenders converged on California on Thursday for the first of two debates that give John Edwards his best shot at slowing front-runner John Kerry's momentum before next week's 10-state Super Tuesday showdown.

Kerry, Edwards and the two other remaining candidates, Dennis Kucinich and Al Sharpton, will participate in the 90-minute debate at the University of Southern California on Thursday night.

Along with a Sunday debate in New York, the two forums offer Edwards his most public platform to try to change the dynamics of the Democratic race and stop Kerry's march to the nomination to face President Bush in November.

Bush, who launched his re-election drive earlier this week with attacks on Kerry, continued the theme during a trip to Kentucky and North Carolina. He derided his political rivals as out of touch with working Americans for refusing to support making his tax cuts permanent.

Kerry, who earned the endorsement of the New York Times, has dominated the Democratic race with 18 victories in the first 20 contests, and another blowout on Tuesday could put the nomination in reach and Edwards' candidacy in doubt.

The 10 states include big prizes like California, New York and Ohio and have 1,151 delegates at stake, more than half of the 2,162 needed to win. Kerry would not have enough delegates to win the nomination with another dominating performance, but Edwards would have little incentive to push on.

Edwards, who used a strong debate performances in Iowa and Wisconsin to mount late charges in those earlier races, began the day by earning the endorsements of the California and New York chapters of the ACORN community group, which represents more than 150,000 low and moderate-income families.

"I want to change this country so never again in America does anyone ever utter the phrase 'working poor,"' he said at a rally in San Francisco.

Kerry arrived in Los Angeles on Thursday afternoon and planned to stop at a grocery store to meet striking workers. More than 70,000 California grocery employees have been on strike for the past five months over a plan by three supermarket chains to cut their health benefits.

The Massachusetts senator drew more than 2,500 people at a campaign rally in Macalester College's field house in St. Paul, Minnesota, on Wednesday night. Fire marshals said they turned away hundreds more.

During a speech interrupted dozens of times by a mix of union members and college students waving blue-and-white Kerry signs, the senator blamed Bush for sending American jobs abroad, leaving millions without health care, running an inept foreign policy and alienating traditional U.S. allies.

Bush, on a visit to Kentucky, said his challengers were out of touch with working Americans for opposing the extension of his 2001 and 2003 tax cuts at a cost of around $1 trillion over the next decade.

"That's code word for 'I'm going to raise your taxes,"' Bush told workers at a Louisville pipe-making company.

"We don't need to be raising taxes right now as the economy is beginning to recover. We've got plenty of money in Washington D.C.," he said, ignoring this year's projected half-trillion-dollar budget deficit.

Bush also planned a visit to Edwards' home turf of North Carolina on Thursday night for a fund raiser in Charlotte.

"I wish President Bush would spend more time talking to families and listening to their fears, like I do," the North Carolina senator said. "Then he might realize that the people of North Carolina need more from their president than economic photo-ops and $2,000-a-plate fund raisers."

In its editorial endorsing Kerry, The New York Times said he "exudes maturity and depth" and that "what his critics see as an inability to take strong, clear positions seems to us to reflect his appreciation that life is not simple."

But the Times also criticized Kerry for showing little interest in being daring and said: "We wish we could see a little of the political courage of the Vietnam hero who came back to lead the fight against the war."

The Times said Edwards was a strong campaigner but too inexperienced. "When he departs from his stump speech and discusses domestic issues or -- particularly -- foreign affairs, his lack of experience shows," it said. (Additional reporting by Patricia Wilson, Deborah Charles, Adam Entous)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; california; debate; democratdebate; edwards; election; kerry
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To: feinswinesuksass
I mean they don't want you to know they know it, ya know?
261 posted on 02/26/2004 7:29:39 PM PST by Feiny (Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
they just want you to know they know it...

Is that because my father didn't work at a mill or because I didn't serve in Viet Nam :)

262 posted on 02/26/2004 7:29:53 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: feinswinesuksass
It'll be interesting to see how the LA Times reports this tomorrow.
263 posted on 02/26/2004 7:29:57 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I'm not sure .. but if I was to take a guess .. PRIVATE SCHOOLS
264 posted on 02/26/2004 7:30:05 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Right_in_Virginia; AnnaZ
I can't rad that rag...I have AnnaZ read it for me.
265 posted on 02/26/2004 7:30:34 PM PST by Feiny (Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
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To: Mo1
correction

Make that very EXPENSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOLS
266 posted on 02/26/2004 7:30:52 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: feinswinesuksass
I can'type either...hehhee
267 posted on 02/26/2004 7:31:02 PM PST by Feiny (Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
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To: Mo1
Tougher questions tonight? On CNN...

They must have gotten instructions to begin taking the helium out of Kerry's balloon.

268 posted on 02/26/2004 7:31:37 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Mo1
I already miss the debates....what will I do now? I guess I am off to the gym!
269 posted on 02/26/2004 7:33:09 PM PST by Feiny (Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Tougher questions tonight? On CNN...

Yes .. and Kerry and Edwards didn't help themselves IMO

270 posted on 02/26/2004 7:33:45 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: feinswinesuksass
And now this SOB Aaron Brown leads off his show flat-out bashing the GOP for the 9/11 investigation, pleading with the public to write Washington to express their anger! Within one minute of starting his show!!!

CNN is UNREAL.
271 posted on 02/26/2004 7:33:46 PM PST by Jhensy
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To: feinswinesuksass
LOL
272 posted on 02/26/2004 7:34:08 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: Dolphy
How come these idiots don't realize if they close the so called "tax loopholes" for corporations, the corporations will simply cut expenses to make up for the additional costs. And the first place they will look is employment costs.

Because they simply don't understand that corporations don't pay taxes. The consumer does.

The reason they don't understand this is because none of these guys have worked in the private sector. They think business is just like gov't. The money just drops out of the sky.

273 posted on 02/26/2004 7:35:10 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
What a bunch of corrupt, phoney, bogus, politically correct, sham artist. It's all party before country.

Not a genuine American patriot among them.

274 posted on 02/26/2004 7:35:14 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Jhensy
From what I have read the investigations are hitting the Clinton Administration hard. Bob Kerrey is threatening to leave blaming the current admin for not cooperating. IMHO he is trying to give cover to the Dems. We'll see how it plays out.
275 posted on 02/26/2004 7:36:49 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: feinswinesuksass
The real question that needs an answer

What the hell happen to Kerry's eyebrows????
276 posted on 02/26/2004 7:37:06 PM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: All
Gad! CNN's Arron Brown is going off on the Speaker of the House for not extending the witch hunt on 9/11! Why am I not surprised?

He calls for us to e-mail the Speaker.

Go here:

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form2.html?2

and send little Arron a message. I just did.

277 posted on 02/26/2004 7:37:19 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Mo1
His eyebrows have gone to the same place as his Presidental hopes....... in the garbage!Kerry and his eyebrows are trash!
278 posted on 02/26/2004 7:39:10 PM PST by tapatio
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To: Mo1
I think the Haitian voodoo guys have his eyebrows.....
279 posted on 02/26/2004 7:41:58 PM PST by Feiny (Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.)
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To: jwalsh07
No need to get your blood pressure up John. I've ceased having much interest in what Kerry and Edwards are going to say. It is just a bunch of sound bytes, and in general, there are few honest policy discussions going on, other than make those earning over $200,000 pay more tax, to pay for some more goodies. On education, it is just one long nauseating butt boy act for the teacher's union. The tax hike won't generate the mother load they hope to finance much however. Those earning that kind of money after deductions are rather thin on the ground, particularly since they can organize their investments to not generate much taxable income.
280 posted on 02/26/2004 7:42:03 PM PST by Torie
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