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hmmm.... 7-2. Even Kennedy and Rehnquist were in the majority.
1 posted on 02/25/2004 9:48:33 AM PST by Modernman
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To: Modernman
Impeach all supreme court and start over!
2 posted on 02/25/2004 9:51:30 AM PST by Chris Talk (What Earth now is, Mars once was. What Mars now is, Earth will become.)
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So, if I'm athiestic, agnostic, or belong to a church that does not require a Divinity degree in order to be a minister; I'm required to sponsor the education of a member of the clergy for someone else's religion?

Or, in other words .... If people should have their taxdollars used to fund the education of clergy for Christians, then the same amount of funds should be made available for Muslum, Buddist, Wiccan, Satanic and any other religous schools across the board.

I have to agree with the majority on this one.
4 posted on 02/25/2004 9:54:08 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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***Davey's lawyers argued that the state violated his constitutional right to worship freely***


Preposterous! He can worship as freely as he desires - he just can't insist the government pick up the tab.

This ruling is as it should be. We don't need the government subsidizing Christ's kingdom.

What they fund they eventually seek to control.
7 posted on 02/25/2004 10:03:40 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To complete this separation of church and state, religious people must be exempted from all taxation.
8 posted on 02/25/2004 10:04:05 AM PST by per loin
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To: Modernman
Bad ruling. "RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION OK -- SUPREMES"
15 posted on 02/25/2004 10:12:06 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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INTREP - Where is the "equal protection" now?
17 posted on 02/25/2004 10:12:40 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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Hmmm so we can't use tax money to have someone study Theology, but if they wish to study homosexual and deviant erotica....we have to fund that? Go freaking figure...
20 posted on 02/25/2004 10:13:54 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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Perhaps the solution is a complete separation of school and state.
22 posted on 02/25/2004 10:18:16 AM PST by Gelato
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So 'separation of church and state' trumps equal treatment under the law. Gotcha.
25 posted on 02/25/2004 10:22:04 AM PST by MEGoody
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Now if we can only get them to disallow the remaining taxpayer funded student aid!
37 posted on 02/25/2004 10:33:23 AM PST by TheDon (John Kerry, self proclaimed war criminal, Democratic Presidential nominee)
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thanks to all you libertarians, you Perotites, you Buchannonites etc.....

by voting in Demonrats, at both the Senate and Presidental levels, you have allowed leftist judges to take over the courts....

if we had a solid majority in the Senate, one that could approve Supreme court judges without Demonrat help, we could see better people in there...

if Maria Cantwell didn't have the help of some 60,000 libertarian votes in Washington STate, plus those suspicious 2000 "provisional" votes, then the Senate would be that much stronger for conservatism....

how much longer are we going to play this game of "I am going to take my toys and go home" mentality with right leaning people that think their view is the only view...

There's a cultural war out there, and you are either with us , or against us....

47 posted on 02/25/2004 10:38:19 AM PST by cherry
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To: Modernman
Doesn't make sense.
48 posted on 02/25/2004 10:39:52 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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The Court told us in so many words that you can be discriminated against if you believe in God. That's the sign of the times today. It has nothing to do with separation of church and state. If liberals think you want to be a minister, screw you. On the hands if you want to counsel to gays, nothing wrong with it. It all depends on what's politically correct.
68 posted on 02/25/2004 11:11:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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A victory for states' rights.
73 posted on 02/25/2004 11:18:27 AM PST by gdani
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When there was more consensus among Americans it seemed to make sense to handle a lot of things publicly and at public expense. If that consensus is breaking down, we need to focus on developing private institutions. Private institutions have atrophied a bit because they didn't seem necessary. I think we are beginning see that they are very necessary.

It should be a high priority to develop schooling and universities that are privately funded; and it should be a high priority to develop sources of private funding (since private education is too expensive for most people).

When public education generally was respectful of the sensibilities of average Americans private education could be easily seen as a luxury but no more.

76 posted on 02/25/2004 11:29:36 AM PST by marron
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Seems to me that those who would have opposed this standard in the Moore monument case are in favor of it here.

And those who would have been in favor of it in the Moore monument case are opposed to it here.

"It imposes neither criminal nor civil sanctions on any type of religious service or rite," the high court majority said.
"It does not deny to ministers the right to participate in the political affairs of the community. And it does not require students to choose between their religious beliefs and receiving a government benefit.

How I long for a faithful, consistent standard from the courts.

102 posted on 02/25/2004 12:02:59 PM PST by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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This is a very puzzling ruling.

Did Rehnquist drink a dozen beers before court???
126 posted on 02/25/2004 12:25:18 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Modernman
I am a Catholic woman. There is NO WAY I will ever be able to become a priest of the Holy Catholic Church.

If I wanted to attend the Yale School of Divinity to study for a degree, does this mean I would be ineligible for "taxpayer" (read, "MY") tuition assistance?

Regards,
140 posted on 02/25/2004 12:43:46 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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