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Kerry Assails Bush on Haiti, Security and Gay Marriage Ban
The New York Times ^ | February 24, 2004 | KIRK SEMPLE

Posted on 02/24/2004 8:59:45 PM PST by demlosers

Senator John Kerry blamed the Bush administration today for helping foster the political instability in Haiti that has given rise to the armed insurgency that now controls nearly half of the country and threatens to overthrow the government of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

"I think the administration has missed a lot of opportunities, in fact, has exacerbated the situation over the last two years with its cutoff of humanitarian assistance and its attitude towards the Aristide administration," Mr. Kerry said. "So they sort of created the environment within which the insurgency could grow and take root, and now they're trying to manage it, I think."

Senator Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, made his comments during a wide-ranging discussion today with editors and reporters of The New York Times in advance of next Tuesday's New York presidential primary.

He said that if he were president, he would be pressing Haitian rebels to back off their goal of toppling Mr. Aristide, perhaps by threatening the deployment of an international peacekeeping force.

"I think you've got to be real and threatening," he said. His message to the rebels, he said, would be: "You're not going to take over, you're not kicking him out, this democracy is going to be sustained, we're willing to put in a new government, new prime minister, we're willing to work with you, but you're not going to succeed in your goal of exiling" Mr. Aristide. "And unless that's clear, you can't necessarily stop it in its tracks."

On Monday, political opposition leaders in Port-au-Prince requested 24 hours to mull over a peace plan presented by the Bush administration and its allies.

Though Mr. Kerry acknowledged that he did not fully know the diplomatic strategy of the Bush administration to deal with Haiti's crisis, he speculated that a purposefully timid approach on the part of the Bush administration — "because they hate Aristide" — could be allowing the rebels to move forward with their uprising.

"They could be encouraging, not really putting the hammer down on these people to stop what they're doing," he said.

In the hourlong conversation at The New York Times, Mr. Kerry also said he opposed the decision by the mayor of San Francisco, Gavin Newsom, to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples in what opponents hold is defiance of California state law.

"I think he's made a mistake," Mr. Kerry said of Mr. Newsom. "I think what he's doing is not the law." The candidate argued that the venue for challenging California law against same-sex marriages is in the courts.

While reaffirming his opposition to gay marriages, Mr. Kerry also reiterated his support of civil unions between same-sex partners.

"I think marriage gets in the way of what you are really fighting for, which is rights," he said, saying that he thought same-sex couples should be entitled to the same spousal and civil rights accorded partners in a heterosexual marriage.

Mr. Kerry made his comments before President Bush announced his support for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. This afternoon, the Kerry campaign issued a statement in which the senator criticized the president's announcement and said he would vote against such an amendment.

"The best way to protect gays and lesbians is through civil unions," Mr. Kerry said in the statement. "The issue of marriage should be left to the states, and that the president of the United States should be addressing the central challenges where he has failed: jobs, health care and our leadership in the world, rather than once again seeking to drive a wedge by toying with the United States Constitution for political purposes."

During the discussion with the Times reporters and editors this morning, Mr. Kerry, who has won 15 of the 17 Democratic primaries and caucuses this year, occasionally spoke of facing President Bush in November, yet hardly mentioned his most-immediate rival for the nomination, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina.

Hawaii, Idaho and Utah hold their nominating contests in the Democratic presidential race today, though the candidates have largely ignored those states: Mr. Kerry planned to spend most of today campaigning in Ohio, while Mr. Edwards was in Georgia and Texas.

Mr. Kerry said he and Mr. Edwards were "friends" and had "a very good relationship," but he said little of substance about his closest Democratic rival and instead hammered President Bush's policies on trade, foreign affairs, the economy and other issues.

Mr. Kerry argued that his long career in Congress, and particularly his foreign-policy experience, made him the best candidate to contest Mr. Bush in the fall. Although much of Mr. Kerry's campaign has been surrounded by discussions of his and Mr. Bush's roles during the Vietnam War, the focus of the conversation today dealt with more contemporary issues.

"The president has made it clear he wants to run on national security, and that makes sense," Mr. Kerry said. "He can't run on jobs, he can't run on education, he can't run on the environment."

"I think you're going to have a fear and security campaign, if they can,' he added. "And I think I'm the candidate who is perfectly situated to challenge them and take them on."

And, as he has done repeatedly during this race, Mr. Kerry dismissed the notion that his privileged upbringing in the Northeast would be a disadvantage in a head-to-head race against President Bush in the South.

Pointing out that Mr. Bush also was from a family of privilege and attended Phillips Academy in Andover, Mass., and two Ivy League universities, he said, "I think people are looking for leadership, not labels, and I think they're looking for answers, not characterizations." Voters, he said, "want to know what you're made out of, not where you're from."

Mr. Kerry also pointed out that being a champion and practitioner of a cherished sport in the South, hunting, would help him talk his way into the heart of the Southern electorate.

"I think I can talk the language of guns," he said. "I think I can go down there and talk the language," which, he said, was "common sense."

Mr. Kerry also cautioned President Bush, the former governor of Texas, not to take his own turf for granted. "If I was George Bush, I would worry about going down to the South," he said. "Not me."

Mr. Kerry said his early lag in the opinion polls last summer only made him a tougher candidate.

"Running for president is a good humility builder and going through those desolate months of the summer has made me stronger," he said. "It's made me a much better candidate. I would hope it's made me a better person."

The senator attributed some of his resurgence to a change in his approach to voters on the campaign trail, mainly by replacing wonky policy talk with more ordinary phrasings. "I think I'm talking a different language," he said. "There's no Washingtonese," he said. "It's a very straightforward and simple kind of language, and I think that's what Americans want to hear. They don't want all this razzle-dazzle from Washington, D.C."

"I think I carry more energy in my public speaking than George Bush," Senator Kerry said, adding that he did not think he would have won 14 of 16 contests "if he didn't know how to connect to people."

Drawing a contrast with Gov. Michael S. Dukakis, the Democratic nominee for president in 1988, whom Mr. Kerry once served as lieutenant governor, Senator Kerry said he would fight back against all attacks.

"Michael Dukakis will tell you today, he didn't fight back," Mr. Kerry said. "He lost because there was a sense that if he wasn't willing to fight for himself, he wasn't willing to fight for me. I'm a fighter and that's what I proved in Iowa, New Hampshire, and that's what I'm going to prove in this race."


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; haiti; kerry; marriage; marriagee; nosensekerry
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To: MJY1288
I just can't get over "because they hate Aristide". Does he have a CLUE?
21 posted on 02/24/2004 9:17:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin; Poohbah; section9; veronica; Luis Gonzalez
John F***ing Kerry, kissing a dictator's butt. AGAIN.
22 posted on 02/24/2004 9:17:41 PM PST by hchutch ("I never get involved with my own life. It's too much trouble." - Michael Garibaldi)
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To: Shermy
"...but why is Kerry coming out Pro-Aristide? What will it gain him with American voters? He could have made some sort of generic statement of concern."

The Congressional Black Caucus and Jesse, et al, are pro-Aristide. With apologies to James Baldwin, he's black, like them. And he's a Communist, like them.

Thus, assuming a pro-Aristide posture is a cost-free way method of pandering for black votes, without actually having to do anything meaningful.

23 posted on 02/24/2004 9:18:40 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: demlosers
"I think I carry more energy in my public speaking than George Bush," Senator Kerry said, adding that he did not think he would have won 14 of 16 contests "if he didn't know how to connect to people."

First sign of a sure loser in a Presidential campaign, when they talk about themselves in the third person. From this and the other quotes in this article, I really think that Kerry is starting to lose his grip. If the Democrats are smart, they will look at Edwards a whole lot closer.

24 posted on 02/24/2004 9:18:46 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: demlosers
...and let's not forget the Earthquake in Iran, the volcano ...well somewhere and the solar flares which have ionized J F'n Kerry's hairdew!!!
25 posted on 02/24/2004 9:19:40 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: Shermy; MJY1288; adam_az
LOL.........can you believe that statement?

"I think I can talk the language of guns," he said. "I think I can go down there and talk the language," which, he said, was "common sense."

They will laugh him right out of the South.

26 posted on 02/24/2004 9:20:02 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
"I think you've got to be real and threatening," he said."

Bush is real and doesn't just threaten. He took action. Kerry and his ilk are a true threat to The Republic.

27 posted on 02/24/2004 9:20:58 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: demlosers
"The best way to protect gays and lesbians is through civil unions," Mr. Kerry said in the statement. "The issue of marriage should be left to the states, and that the president of the United States should be addressing the central challenges where he has failed: jobs, health care and our leadership in the world, rather than once again seeking to drive a wedge by toying with the United States Constitution for political purposes."

Gay "marriage" and civil unions have nothing to do with "protecting" "gays and lesbians". Rather they are about the government promoting and validating homosexual activity, which people have differing moral views on in this society. Secondly, they won't be left to the states when federal judges overturn the merely statutory Defense of Marriage Act and states will have to recognize gay marriages through full faith and credit. Also, the Supreme Court that passed Lawrence could easily create a US Constitutional right to gay marriage.

28 posted on 02/24/2004 9:21:29 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Shermy
"I think I can talk the language of guns," he said. "I think I can go down there and talk the language," which, he said, was "common sense."

BS!

This Is Bush Country

29 posted on 02/24/2004 9:21:56 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
What IS "the language of guns?" LOL.
30 posted on 02/24/2004 9:24:01 PM PST by Howlin
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To: okie01
It seems to me that he could make a "I care about Haitians" statement without coming so strong out for Aristide.


31 posted on 02/24/2004 9:24:25 PM PST by Shermy
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To: demlosers
"Running for president is a good humility builder and going through those desolate months of the summer has made me stronger," he said.

Well, John, glad you feel that way, we'll try to make that lesson really sink in this fall.

32 posted on 02/24/2004 9:26:03 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: demlosers; All
Poll: Will the institution of marriage suffer if it fails to be inclusive of gays?
33 posted on 02/24/2004 9:27:24 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Howlin
LOL, IMHO, this is more damning than the "I have a Scream" rant of Howard Dean's.

What the real deal is with "Jiffy" John Kerry is he truly believes he is never wrong. I have read a lot about him and he is very quick to insult someone who challenges his views or his position on a subject. His standard reply when he is put in a corner is "You obviously don't know who I am, or the experience I have in Washington"

John Kerry was a "Winter Soldier" and he is a "Winter Senator"

34 posted on 02/24/2004 9:27:26 PM PST by MJY1288 (There's no leaders on the path of least resistance, ask John Kerry, he's been paving it for 32 yrs.)
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To: demlosers
"I think you've got to be real and threatening," he said.

This from the guy who says he only voted to threaten force in Iraq, not to really use it.

35 posted on 02/24/2004 9:28:06 PM PST by Hugin
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To: demlosers
Kerry Assails Bush On Haiti

YAWN!!! How utterly predictable......

36 posted on 02/24/2004 9:28:34 PM PST by Libertarian444
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To: MJY1288
"Running for president is a good humility builder and going through those desolate months of the summer has made me stronger," he said.

I don't even know what to say about that sentence. A good humility builder? What the hell is that?

37 posted on 02/24/2004 9:30:24 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
LOL, tonight on "Special Report" Brit Hume said that Kerry was asked his opinion of what Mayor Newsom has been doing in San Francisco with Gay marriages. Kerry replied "I don't have a position because I don't know what's going on in San Francisco"

This guy is completely out of touch

38 posted on 02/24/2004 9:33:50 PM PST by MJY1288 (There's no leaders on the path of least resistance, ask John Kerry, he's been paving it for 32 yrs.)
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To: Howlin
I read that paragraph and had whiplash. Were not going to let you overthrow an elected government were going to intstall one of our own. Say what ?
39 posted on 02/24/2004 9:39:06 PM PST by John Lenin (Just because there is no draft does not mean there are no draft dodgers)
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To: Howlin
""I think I carry more energy in my public speaking than George Bush," Senator Kerry said, adding that he did not think he would have won 14 of 16 contests "if he didn't know how to connect to people."

"Michael Dukakis will tell you today, he didn't fight back," Mr. Kerry said. "He lost because there was a sense that if he wasn't willing to fight for himself, he wasn't willing to fight for me. I'm a fighter and that's what I proved in Iowa, New Hampshire, and that's what I'm going to prove in this race."

This guy is so full of himself, I wonder if he doesn't put a John Kerry mask on TahRayZa before they go to bed :-)

40 posted on 02/24/2004 9:40:28 PM PST by MJY1288 (There's no leaders on the path of least resistance, ask John Kerry, he's been paving it for 32 yrs.)
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