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"Off-shoring" Manifesto/Rant: Sixteen Hard Truths (Tom Peters)
tompeters.com ^ | February 21, 2004 | Tom Peters

Posted on 02/24/2004 4:20:01 PM PST by AZLiberty

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Sounds about right.
1 posted on 02/24/2004 4:20:02 PM PST by AZLiberty
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To: AZLiberty
tag to watch ...
2 posted on 02/24/2004 4:26:58 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: AZLiberty
We are all dead...in the long haul.
3 posted on 02/24/2004 4:27:21 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: AZLiberty
14. National/global protection of intellectual capital-property is imperative.

I must not understand. Does this mean that, for example, American intellectual capital must be protected all around the world? Or does it mean that American intellectual capital is now "Global?"

4 posted on 02/24/2004 4:29:56 PM PST by AreaMan
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It means that without enforceable patents, no technical advances can be sustained. Imagine a world where drug companies have significantly diminished incentives to develop new drugs because they cannot keep the rewards of their R&D?
5 posted on 02/24/2004 4:38:57 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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To: AZLiberty
in the long haul

That's a neat rhetorical trick, since "in the long haul" noone's going to remember your rosy predictions and noone's going to hold you responsible for them.

6 posted on 02/24/2004 4:42:51 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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It means that without enforceable patents, no technical advances can be sustained.

Agreed.

I would like those patents be developed here in America.

7 posted on 02/24/2004 4:45:41 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: AZLiberty
Big companies are not "built to last;" they almost inexorably are "built to decline."

Without big companies would there be a Tom Peters?
8 posted on 02/24/2004 4:50:17 PM PST by lelio
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It means that without enforceable patents, no technical advances can be sustained.

Sorry, but that is nuts.

Change it to "no company that patents technology can be sustained by it" and you would be right. The technology itself marches on, regardless of what country performs the advances.

9 posted on 02/24/2004 4:54:28 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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It means that without enforceable patents, no technical advances can be sustained.

Sorry, but that is nuts. Change it to "no company that patents technology can be sustained by it" and you would be right. The technology itself marches on, regardless of what country performs the advances.

I suspect that what he means is, that without enforceable patents, companies will not invest in R&D. Why spend the money and give everyone else a free ride? If this occurs, then technology itself will slow waaay down in its "march".

10 posted on 02/24/2004 4:59:29 PM PST by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: AZLiberty
I read y-day that off-shoring service jobs (customer service and coding) is basically limited to 4 countries, Ireland, Canada, Great Britain, and India. Of those 4, India is limited to 3,000,000 people with sufficient english skills to be effective customer service representatives.
11 posted on 02/24/2004 5:04:40 PM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: _Jim
bump
12 posted on 02/24/2004 5:08:09 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: AZLiberty
Now the globaloons admit it. America is selling itself out (the so called "unearned wage advantage") in the relentless pursuit of bargains which in the long haul aren't bargains at all.
13 posted on 02/24/2004 5:08:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: dark_lord
I understand, but that is wrong too.

Think about what Sony did when RCA decided that their patents were not worth enforcing. We still got WEGA, my man. If there are dollars to be made, SOMEBODY will pick up the technology and move it to profitability. The point is that the company that does this will not always be American, and we had better get used to that, and learn to compete more effectively unless we want the trickle to turn into a flood.

14 posted on 02/24/2004 5:17:49 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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6. Americans' "unearned wage advantage" (Born in the U.S.A.) could be erased ... permanently.

Looks like the author forgot a quote "worth noting/quoting":

"People vote their pocketbooks"

The idiot politician who thinks that Americans recieve an "unearned wage advantage" is doomed.

15 posted on 02/24/2004 5:22:49 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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"The new organization of society implied by the triumph of individual autonomy and the true equalization of opportunity based upon merit will lead to very great rewards for merit and great individual autonomy. This will leave individuals far more responsible for themselves that they have been accustomed to being during the industrial period. It will also reduce the unearned advantage in living standards that has been enjoyed by residents of advanced industrial societies throughout the twentieth century." (Governor, Bank of England)

It's ironic that people who support "free trade" use quotes like this. I don't think freedom is what is giving places like China a wage advantage. I imagine the later part of the quote is true in that we may all be living in the third world. Except, of course for our masters.

16 posted on 02/24/2004 5:46:08 PM PST by briant
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If there are dollars to be made, SOMEBODY will pick up the technology and move it to profitability.

GREAT.

So company A spends millions developing a new semiconductor manufacturing process (embodying a veritable ton of IP - intellectual property) and company B, located in the far east (YOU take a guess at which country) is 'free' (by your rules now) to reverse engineer those products (ICs) fabbed (fabricated) by company A and then begin production in company B's facilities - with company A receiving *no* payback for their R & D!

THAT is not right ...

17 posted on 02/24/2004 6:04:08 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Pukin Dog
Reduce the profit from inovation, and take away the incentive to innovate.
18 posted on 02/24/2004 6:07:07 PM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules.)
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THAT is not right ...

No, it is just reality. I didn't defend it, I only described it.

19 posted on 02/24/2004 6:08:48 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: AZLiberty
That sounds like the kind of logic which could get John Kerry elected president...
20 posted on 02/24/2004 6:11:35 PM PST by greenwolf
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