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Electoral College Breakdown, Installment Ten
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Posted on 02/22/2004 5:24:26 PM PST by Dales

Edited on 02/23/2004 3:48:05 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Due to popular demand, I am going to revive my poll tracking and analysis that I did during the 2000 election season. I will be starting things a bit differently this year. Instead of starting off with a comprehensive overview of the entire nation, I am going to start by looking at five states at a time. For this tenth installment, the remaining states: Tennessee, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, and the great state of Texas.


Tennessee
Electoral Votes: 11
2000 Result
Bush 51%
Gore 47%

Background: Carter against Ford, Clinton twice (both times needing help from Perot), and Johnson. Republicans generally have had success here since Truman.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
12/8/03 Mason-Dixon Link LV 4% Bush 52% Unnamed Democrat 37%
1/29/04 Mason-Dixon NA LV 5% Bush 47% Kerry 43%

Punditry: Kerry has enjoyed a nice bounce here, but the state still Leans for Bush.


New Hampshire
Electoral Votes: 4
2000 Result
Bush 48%
Gore 47%

Background: Clinton won twice here, and the second time would have been even without Perot. The first time, he likely would have lost. Johnson won here. Other than that, Republican wins back through Dewey beating Truman. The elder Bush crushed the man who Kerry was Lt. Governor for, Mike Dukakis.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
4/27/03 Franklin Pierce College Link 600 RV 4% Bush 42% Unnamed Democrat 42%
9/11/03 American Research Group Link RV 4% Bush 50% Unnamed Democrat 36%
10/16/03 Research 2000 Link RV 4% Bush 51% Kerry 39%
12/10/03 American Research Group NA RV 4% Bush 50% Unnamed Democrat 38%
10/16/03 Research 2000 Link RV 4% Bush 51% Kerry 39%
1/20/04 Associated Press Link 600 LV 4% Bush 55% Kerry 40%
2/20/04 University of New Hampshire Link 511 LV 4% Bush 38% Kerry 53%

Punditry: That last poll sure is different than the results all of the other polls done in the state have been showing. As such, I am treating it with extreme skepticism, especially since the American Research Group is really the poll to watch for NH (they are based there). Just to be cautious, I will designate New Hampshire a Slight Advantage for Bush, but if the next ARG poll shows the lead holding I will likely upgrade this rating.


Wisconsin
Electoral Votes: 10
2000 Result
Gore 47.83%
Bush 47.61%

Background: I got the *BLEEP* kicked out of me in Wisconsin. Oh wait, sorry. Stripes flashback. Reagan won here twice. Nixon won here three times. LBJ and Carter (against Ford) won here, and then the Democrats have taken the last four elections here. The first of Clinton's wins would have been a loss for him without Perot.

Polling Data:

Date Polling Company Link Type MOE Republican Democrat
5/03 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 53% Unnamed Democrat 42%
10/28/03 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 46% Unnamed Democrat 45%
1/27/04 Badger Poll Link LV 4% Bush 38% Unnamed Democrat 54%

Punditry: Quite a reversal in Bush's fortunes according to the polls here, especially considering it is the same polling company. Wisconsin is one of the states that is often considered a possible pickup for Bush this time, and his previous numbers show it is possible, but it will take quite a change from where things are right now, which is that the state Leans for the Democrats.


Oklahoma
Electoral Votes: 7
2000 Result
Bush 60%
Gore 38%

Background: Republicans have won every election here since LBJ.

Polling Data: None available.

Punditry: Sooner country has put away their Texas animous for Presidential candidates, and this remains Safe for Bush.


Texas
Electoral Votes: 34
2000 Result
Bush 58%
Gore 39%

Background: Carter and Humphrey won here, but Texas has become a very foreign land for the Democrat Presidential candidates.

Polling Data: None available.

Punditry: Texas is Safe for Bush. It is Bush country.


Summary Table
  Bush Democrat
  Safe Strong Lean Slight Tossup Slight Lean Strong Safe
  ND (3) CO (9) GA (15) NV (5) OR (7) NM (5) CA (55) NY (31) VT (3)
  AL (9) SC (8) NC (15) FL (27) WV (5) ME (4) WI (10) DE (3) MA (12)
  MT (3) KY (8) MO (11) NJ (15) - MI (17) - MD (10) DC (3)
  WY (3) KS (6) VA (13) NH (4) - PA (21) - WA (11) RI (4)
  UT (5) MS (6) OH (20) - - IA (7) - CT (7) HI (4)
  ID (4) SD (3) IN (11) - - MN (10) - IL (21) -
  AK (3) LA (9) AZ (10) - - - - - -
  NE (5) - AR (6) - - - - - -
  OK (7) - TN (11) - - - - - -
  TX (34) - - - - - - - -
Designation
Total:
76 49 112 51 12 64 65 83 26
Candidate
Total:
237 127 174


Next installment: A closer look at the battleground states, and updates to a few states that have new polls.

Historical election data are located at Dave Leip's invaluable website.

Installment One
Installment Two
Installment Three
Installment Four
Installment Five
Installment Six
Installment Seven
Installment Eight
Installment Nine


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire; US: Oklahoma; US: Tennessee; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: dales; ecb; electionpresident; electoralcollege; gwb2004
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To: Torie
Yeah, looks like Bush took 54% of the 2-party vote in the Metro area. A solid victory.
121 posted on 02/22/2004 9:12:47 PM PST by wylenetheconservative (Max Cleland and Larry Flynt are the same person)
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To: wylenetheconservative
Another way to look at it, is that five heavily GOP counties have been wiped off the map, and are not within the Columbus metro area, and comfort us that Bush still can win there by a bit. At that rate, Ohio won't have any rural or small town counties left. They will all be sucked up into metro districts, except largely unpopulated outliers.
122 posted on 02/22/2004 9:14:55 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
I didn't append them, the U.S. Census bureau did. I see your point though. Franklin county used to provide a margin for the GOP itself. Is liberalism on the rise at Ohio State?
123 posted on 02/22/2004 9:15:21 PM PST by wylenetheconservative (Max Cleland and Larry Flynt are the same person)
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To: wylenetheconservative
Well the city as acquried some culturally liberal neighborhoods, ala metro areas in the Northeast and the Pacific Coast, and Chicago, etc. Someone said, it had the largest gay population in Ohio. I don't know about that.
124 posted on 02/22/2004 9:17:35 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Due to the suburbanization and exburbanization of America, most small town communities that are anywhere near a city are becoming bedroom communities as people flee the cities and the horrible school districts in them.
125 posted on 02/22/2004 9:18:54 PM PST by wylenetheconservative (Max Cleland and Larry Flynt are the same person)
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To: Torie
What about Vitter's seat, I think that's a GOP hold..

Not sure about Tauzin's seat, probably a toss up to a slight gop lean...
126 posted on 02/22/2004 9:21:45 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: jack gillis
I noticed that. Not much politically surprises me anymore.

I really hope it's not a tie. It'll be interesting, but I'll probably lose my hair in the aftermath.

127 posted on 02/22/2004 9:21:51 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: KQQL
Yep
128 posted on 02/22/2004 9:22:20 PM PST by Torie
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129 posted on 02/22/2004 9:22:23 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: jack gillis
The advantage in delegations is almost as big as the advantage in overall seats.

Republicans naturally control a lot of small mountain/west/plains states, plus they still have RINOs hanging on in providing the majority in places like Connecticut and Delaware.

130 posted on 02/22/2004 9:22:32 PM PST by JohnnyZ (People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
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In 1992, Clinton won Ohio by just 2% with perot taking a good chunk of the electorate. While in 1995, Dole lost the national vote by 8.5%, but lost Ohio by 6% with Perot taking 11% of the vote.

Despite Ohio's economic foils, it's certainly not as bad as it was in 1992 -- and the state has been trending more to the Republican side, mainly due to the bleeding of Northeast Ohio.

131 posted on 02/22/2004 9:23:38 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: JohnnyZ
GOP is a majority in the Senate/house thanks to RINOS....
132 posted on 02/22/2004 9:24:32 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: LdSentinal
The odd thing, is that Clinton and Carter won Ohio not because of the swing in NE Ohio, but rather because of the swing in the Copperhead territory along the Ohio River outside of the Cinci metro area.
133 posted on 02/22/2004 9:25:59 PM PST by Torie
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To: Dales
Where can I find the actual results from each state in the '92 election? I wanted to do my own guesses of Perot's impact, but I couldn't find any site that gave the totals in each state.
134 posted on 02/22/2004 9:30:37 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Torie
I guess Southern Ohio likes candidates with Southern accents. I wonder how they will react to a New Englander accent.
135 posted on 02/22/2004 9:31:53 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: WFTR
Historical election data are located at Dave Leip's invaluable website.

See the link at the bottom of Dales' post.

136 posted on 02/22/2004 9:35:42 PM PST by JohnnyZ (People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
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To: Torie
RE: LA


Even as McCrery finalizes his decision, a number of names are already being considered for a possible replacement. Among the most talked about are Shreveport Mayor Keith Hightower, a Democrat, and Caddo Parish Sheriff Steve Prator, a Republican.

Prator said McCrery met with him in his office on Friday. "We discussed several things. Should he decide not to run, I will consider it, but it's in the early stages of consideration.
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/html/7B57EE0C-8C4C-4B6F-B06C-04403E39C590.shtml

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Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, called it disaster for Louisiana if McCrery were to be added to the losses the state already faces in seniority among its seven congressmen and two senators.
137 posted on 02/22/2004 9:36:55 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, called it disaster for Louisiana if McCrery were to be added to the losses the state already faces in seniority among its seven congressmen and two senators.

Yeah yeah, they gotta go at some point, right? and the new guys will start building up seniority of their own.

138 posted on 02/22/2004 9:55:28 PM PST by JohnnyZ (People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
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To: JohnnyZ; Torie
Looks like LA 3 will open up soon too..

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Possible candidates swarm in 3rd District

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/021904/new_candidates001.shtml
139 posted on 02/22/2004 9:58:34 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: Torie
"Coattails are largely history, and reverse coattails are well, whatever. "

I think you are wrong. If Bush/Cheney implement and execute 72 hour GOTV, then it will look like coattails, but it will realyl be TURNOUT. Either way, a big Bush win will mean some senators getting elected. eg Georgia, NC, Florida.

140 posted on 02/22/2004 10:46:12 PM PST by WOSG (If we call Republicans the "Grand Old Party" lets call Democrats the Corrupt Radical Activist Party.)
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