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Book reopens Kerry's war wounds ( New Book questions Kerry's Nam injuries, etc)
sunday times via theaustralian.news.com.au ^
| 02/23/04
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Posted on 02/22/2004 1:35:58 PM PST by KQQL
VIETNAM has been the defining issue for John Kerry. His status as a decorated war hero has helped to propel him to the front of the pack of Democrat candidates seeking to evict George W.Bush from the White House. Conservative critics believe he has been given a free ride for too long on his war record, however, and are planning a fightback.
Support for their case is expected to come from a book to be published next month by reporters from The Boston Globe in Kerry's home state of Massachusetts. The book, JF Kerry, the Complete Biography, will question the extent of his injuries in Vietnam and whether he was entitled to an early release from the war.
Vietnam, The Washington Post opined at the weekend, "is a double-edged issue" for the 60-year-old Democratic frontrunner. Kerry has not authorised the release of his war records - a strange omission, say his political foes, given the ferocity with which his supporters have demanded to see every last document of Bush's military service in the Texas Air National Guard.
"Vietnam is such a crucial part of his background and his campaign, you would think he would want people to see them," said Rich Lowry, editor of National Review, a conservative journal. "There is going to be pressure on him to release them."
Kerry, who is surrounded on the stump by the "band of brothers" who fought with him in the Mekong Delta, became a fierce public critic of the Vietnam War after he left the navy.
A faked photograph of Kerry sharing a microphone with Jane Fonda was a warning of how his opposition to the conflict would be used against him. There also has been much criticism of the way he threw away another man's medals rather than his own during a 1971 protest demonstration.
Kerry's conduct during the war, however, was until now thought to be sacrosanct. Unlike many of his generation, he volunteered for service in Vietnam. He went on to perform heroically as the skipper of a Swift boat patrolling Vietcong-infested waters, and won a Bronze Star and a Silver Star for bravery.
Kerry served only four months of a year-long tour of duty after he received three Purple Hearts for being wounded in action. The injuries were not serious; by his own account, one shrapnel wound laid him off for two days and the other two did not interrupt his duties.
Five of his friends died in action and his medals show that, at the very least, he had several brushes with death. The future senator then invoked what he insists was a "three and you're out" rule enabling a soldier with three Purple Hearts to be sent home.
He requested a transfer and was given a plum job as an admiral's aide in Brooklyn. He returned to the US a bitter opponent of the war and was released from the army early.
In response to an inquiry from The Sunday Times, Kerry's campaign staff gave the newspaper a copy of naval regulations stating that "all naval personnel" who are "wounded three times, regardless of the nature of the wound or the treatment required for each wound" may be reassigned.
A spokesman for the US Navy said, however, that such redeployment was not automatic: "It would depend a lot on the nature of the injuries."
Ted Sampley, who runs Vietnam Vets Against John Kerry, said if a soldier could be sent home for minor wounds, "there would have been a lot of people claiming scratches, getting their Purple Hearts and getting out of there".
Sampley believes that the well-connected Kerry - photographed with president John F.Kennedy as a young man - simply received favourable treatment. "How many other people were able to get out of Vietnam early and be reassigned to a cushy post?" he said.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2004; biography; bookreview; hanoijohnny; kerry; kerryrecord; miliaryrecord; militaryrecord; openkerrysrecordsnow; purpleheart; tedsampley; vvajk
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To: mystery-ak
When I joined the Navy in 1980 I was still a liberal from Massachusetts. I remember I was teased about Teddy Kennedy and my liberal thinking. But I had kind people around me, they just smiled, sighed and sang "Que Sera Sera." I remember Jimmy Carter. He was impotent with our foreign policies and it took 444 days to get our hostages out of Iran. The Iranians walked all over us and made us look like a nation of fools. I remember the long gas lines at the pumps and the economy going into the dumper because the Iranians cut us off from oil supplies. Jimmy told us to adjust our thermostat to 68 degrees, wear a sweater and turn off the lights when leaving a room. He didn't know what to do but he thought talking about it and raising taxes would solve the problems. The inflation got so bad that everyone in our area was being laid off and losing their homes because their unemployment insurance ran out. I lost my 7-11 job. I had no money. I had to join the Navy to support myself.
Mike's troopers should think twice about who they elect. If Kerry gets elected, he will put the military under UN control, cut military spending and cut military funding. Then they will see all their allowances go away and they won't have enough money to buy a car or support a wife. People who live off welfare will have a better standard of living than the troops. My husband said they couldn't man the ships because they didn't have enough people during the late 70's. An oiler returned from a Med cruise and many of the crew had to transfer to another oiler to return to the Med for a double cruise. He had to triple up his work load due to manpower shortages. Morale was real bad and the turn over rate was high. During combat situations this will cost lives.
Terrorism will not go away. The extremists have been killing American's since '82 and they are getting bolder. Remember Flight 103, '93 WTC bombing, US embassies, USS Cole and 9/11? Don't the young troopers feel they are doing an important job keeping me and my children safe? Maybe the world?
Bush had the courage to do something to stop the murders. Saddam was aiding the terrorists. Saddam was developing WMD and would pass it to the terrorists. He was paying $25,000 to families of murder bombers who killed women and children in Israel. If they could get away with murdering 3,000 people in one day, they would try again. It would been catastrophic. Our economy really will be like the Great Depression. People like Kerry are trying to undermine the US...by doubting our efforts...just like Kerry and Fonda did back in 70's...calling all our troops baby killers. Their actions caused many more deaths after we lost our confidence in winning. I remember the fall of Saigon, the boat people and the killing fields of Cambodia. Words have consequences. Your husband should tell his men they will change the course of history for the worse because they failed to learn the lessons of appeasment and capitulation. John Kerry may have gotten medals and is considered a hero, but so was Benedict Arnold.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:03:14 PM PST
by
Milligan
(I'm from Massachusetts and I will not be voting for Kerry!)
To: LenS; cynicom
And LenS supported Chechen al-Qaeda terrorists in their war effors months before 9/11 on this very website. I saved the posts. Want them? You are the lair. My position is that atacking Kerry's war record as a camoign issue will back fire on our efforts to elect Bush with independents and moderates. Cheered any Chechen attack on Christians lately, LenS?
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:03:36 PM PST
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: LenS; cynicom
I don't support Kerry. The thought that Kerry will probably appoint Wesley Clark - a general whose war efforts you supported in Kosovo and Bosnia, LenS - fills me with dread and disgust.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:06:39 PM PST
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: Destro
Give it up Destro. Look in the mirror. Everyone sees you for what you are.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:11:09 PM PST
by
cynicom
To: Milligan; mike1sg
Mike is doing all he can to educate these young troopers, he has to walk a fine line while he does it...I remember those days also, it nearly destroyed the military. Unfortunately there are Dems in the military too.
Mike, if you see this please chime in.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:11:41 PM PST
by
mystery-ak
(*terrorism has been exaggerated*....Kerry....We must defeat him, our lives depend on it.)
To: Destro
You say Kerry isn't your man yet your words and defense of him say otherwise.
To: Destro
What bothered me about this article saying Kerry "only served" four months on a tour is that he had a cushy job on the big ship and opted to volunteer for his second tour of duty on a swift boat. In other words he took himself off the easy duty and into the harder combat seeing duty. That has to count for something. That is what Kerry and the Democrats want us to believe and that is the version they are putting out. However, that version is pure Bravo Sierra and is not supported by the facts or by Kerry's own statements.
It would indeed be extremely admirable if Kerry had knowingly taken "himself off the easy duty and into the harder combat seeing duty". That would make him another "Mr. Roberts".
However, Kerry never volunteered for combat or any duty he ever dreamed would get him into combat.
Kerry was the First Division Officer when he served on the USS Gridley.
John F. Kerry, the junior U.S. Senator from Massachusetts is positioning himself for a run at the Presidency in 2004. Ensign (and later LTJG Kerry) reported aboard GRIDLEY straight out of the Fleet Training Center, San Diego on 8 June 1967. This boot Ensign headed up First Division and is shown here with Calvert BM1 and BMCS Enochs. His biographical materials never mention this period even though he was aboard GRIDLEY much longer than he was in Vietnam. Between having these two old salts reporting to him and Captain Slifer after him all the time, Ensign Kerry was a busy young man.
What is "First Division"?
First Division is one of the "Deck Divisions" on a ship. In Navy slang, the "Deck Apes". They swab the decks. They chip paint. They paint the areas they finished chipping. After that, they swab, they chip and they paint somemore. The enlisted men at the bottom of the class at Navy Boot Camp end up in a Deck Division.
In the Ward Room, the First Division Officer is the lowest guy in the ship's officers pecking order. When the XO or the CO need an S.L.J.O. (Shitty Little Jobs Officer), the First Division Officer is the guy that gets the job.
Kerry was in charge of the least skilled sailors in the lowest prestige division on his ship and, apparently, his C.O., Captain Slifer, was not making life very pleasant for our Boston Blue Blood who was more used to sailing on John F. Kennedy's yacht.
What to do?
Swift boats!
At the time, swift boats merely patrolled the coastline or ferried sailors between ships.
Most importantly, a mere Lt.(j.g.) was the Officer in Charge (OIC).
Instead of being the SLJO on the USS Gridley, in charge of Deck Ape Division, with Captain Slifer making his life miserable, Kerry pictured himself as the OIC of his own boat, roaring up and down the South China Sea out of the war and with no Captain Slifer anywhere in sight.
But, don't take my word for it.
Let's hear it from John F. Kerry himself:
Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ........"I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."......... But two weeks after he arrived in Vietnam, the swift boat mission changed -- and Kerry went from having one of the safest assignments in the escalating conflict to one of the most dangerous.
Two weeks after Kerry assumed command of his swift boat, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt put into effect his idea of getting those swift boats out of glorified water skiing duty........
Picture of yours truly "RD2 Joe Muharsky" water skiing behind PCF 94 March 1969. Pictured is signed by Senator John Kerry who was a LTJG in Coastal Division 11.
.......into the shooting war in the rivers of the Mekong Delta.
Oooooops.
As Robert Burns once wrote, "The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry."
Kerry signed up for being OIC of his own water skiing boat and here he was in the middle of a f---- war!!
What does Kerry do now after he has gone from glorified water skier straight into deep kim-chee?
Well, Kerry then racked up three Purple Hearts for "injuries" that kept him off duty for a grand total of.....drum roll, please..... two days of duty by his own admission and zero days according to his swift boat C.O.
Kerry then sea-lawyered himself out of combat after only four months and requested a transfer as an "Admiral's aide", preferably in "Boston, New York or Washington".
Boston Globe, 6/16/2003: ......... He requested and was granted a transfer out of Vietnam six months before his combat tour was slated to end on the grounds that he had earned three Purple Hearts. None of his wounds was disabling; he said one cost him two days of service and the other two did not lead to any absence. .........The bottom line is that Kerry could have remained but he chose to seek an early transfer.
When the Boston Globe asked Kerry to give permission for the release of his Navy medical records so that the Boston Globe could document what sort of injuries earned Kerry three Purple Hearts and a ticket out of combat after 4 months.........Kerry refused.
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made; from First Division Officer to swift boat OIC; from swift boat OIC to early termination of his combat tour; from early termination of his combat tour to Admiral's aide; from Admiral's aide to early discharge from active duty; from early discharge from active duty to politically-popular-in-Massachusets American-G.I.'s-are-war-criminals anti-war protestor.....
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made in his Navy carreer was made to further the comfort, safety and political ambitions of John F. Kerry.
To: Milligan
I fully agree, I have been through all periods in the military under the Democrats, and everyone in uniform should beware of bad times ahead. I without being openly political am doing everything I can do to get info out there to my younger soldiers here, the older guys like me are not a problem, but I have a lot of kids here from the Clinton generation so called Gen X'ers. A lot of them just don't get it. I also call them the "me" generation.
I'll keep plugging away at it, even if it is just one person at a time.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:24:56 PM PST
by
mike1sg
(From the vacation paradise, the cradle of civilization; Iraq)
To: Polybius
A truly excellent post. You should write it up as a column for some publication.
At the very least, you should devote a separate thread to it.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:28:36 PM PST
by
Hon
To: KQQL
read later
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:31:23 PM PST
by
satchmodog9
(it's coming and if you don't get off the tracks it will run you down)
To: proudofthesouth
I do not defend Kerry per say, just point that these attacks are not going to work.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:34:31 PM PST
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: cynicom
Give it up Destro. Look in the mirror. Everyone sees you for what you are. An enemy of Islam and all who defend Islam?
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:35:17 PM PST
by
Destro
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To: Polybius
So at the end of the day - what does it prove? That both candidates for president tried to get out of combat missions but the Democrat screwed up in his efforts and got himself into combat?? Is this line of attack going to get the vast middle - independent voter to vote for Bush? Can you imagine the disaster of a Kerry presidency if he wins because we keep harping on Vietnam and alienating those voters and ignore his liberal voting record that is relevant and that we can win against?
And because I point this out I am called a Kerry supporter and a secret Democrat. I thought such mono-thinking was a Democratic party attribute. Live and learn.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:41:14 PM PST
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: Destro
You need to go back and read your posts because you are indeed defending him. Are you on Kerry's staff or perhaps a family member or close friend of his? Otherwise why would you be so insistent on sticking up for this socialist traitor?
To: Polybius
Excellent post, Polybius.
Every decision and/or request John F. Kerry ever made in his Navy carreer was made to further the comfort, safety and political ambitions of John F. Kerry.
Hits the nail right on the head.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:52:20 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Contrary to popular belief Hamas has nothing to do with ham. If you throw ham at them they get angry)
To: proudofthesouth
If I am on Kerry's staff then my post #313 would get me fired.
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:53:04 PM PST
by
Destro
(Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
To: Destro
In general, the voting public is very subject to sound bites. By the time we get to serious campaigning, they will be feverish with boredom of the whole thing. Pres Bush has taken some serious unanswered hits already. Time to hit back on the "hero" stance Kerry and the media has taken is now. Plenty of time later on his voting record.
As Zeb Miller said~~"For I truly believe that at times like this, silence is not golden. It is yellow."
To: Destro
"Can you imagine the disaster of a Kerry presidency if he wins because we keep harping on Vietnam and alienating those voters and ignore his liberal voting record that is relevant and that we can win against?"
You have been harping on this for quite a while. You are so full of it it isn't funny. This is your idea of attacking Kerry on his liberal voting record:
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:55:41 PM PST
by
Hon
To: Dog
Yup....and my brother-in-law came home a parapalegic after taking schrapnel in his back. The best "welcome home" any Nam vet, wounded or not, could receive, would be to KEEP JOHN KERRY OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!!
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posted on
02/22/2004 7:57:50 PM PST
by
soozla
(Life is like a shower....one wrong turn and you're in hot water)
To: KQQL
Great graphic!!!
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posted on
02/22/2004 8:02:30 PM PST
by
soozla
(Life is like a shower....one wrong turn and you're in hot water)
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