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Same-sex marriage threatens real marriage
Manchester Union Leader ^ | February 22, 2004 | Bernadette Malone

Posted on 02/22/2004 6:54:58 AM PST by billorites

ONE QUESTION for the Rev. Gene Robinson, the nation’s first openly gay Episcopal priest (now bishop) who cautions those of us opposed to same-sex marriage: “Don’t waste your time and energy defending marriage from something that doesn’t threaten it.” Doesn’t polygamy threaten marriage?

Would the Rev. Robinson rise to defend polygamy, and perform wedding ceremonies for a man and two women, or a woman and two men (polyandry)? Because if same-sex marriage doesn’t threaten real marriage, why should polygamy? There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two institutions when you study them.

This comparison is not intended to be degrading or insulting; it’s not likening same-sex marriage to bestiality or incest or any other perversions that harm children and animals. Both same-sex marriage and polygamy are voluntary arrangements by consenting adults; why should we care what people do behind closed doors?

And if marriage need not be limited to one man and one woman — as Robinson is saying — why need it be limited to couples only? What’s so sacred about the number 2?

It seems a bit arbitrary to allow one man to marry another man, but not to marry two women. Why should the government restrict his choice, provided his partners are willing? Would the Rev. Robinson concede that letting groups of three, four or more marry would water down the meaning of marriage, which elevates and sanctifies the precise biological recipe for creating children?

Many homosexuals don’t take the polygamy analogy seriously, or they become easily offended when the comparison is made. But there are many sound reasons to consider legalizing polygamy, advocates of same-sex marriage must admit.

Just like people feel that they are born homosexual, which justifies their right to marry same-sex lovers, people also are born with the proclivity to have multiple sex partners. For many people, monogamy does not feel like their natural, biological state.

Animals, for the most part, are not monogamous. So should people who are born with a strong urge to mate with more than one woman be denied their constitutional right to follow their urge? Why should a man be thwarted by the government if he can find two (or more) women to go along with him?

Proponents of same-sex marriage claim it will have a stabilizing effect on homosexual relationships. Don’t we want to encourage marriage and lifelong commitment, they ask?

Similarly, marrying more than one woman might be a stabilizing, civilizing influence on natural-born philanderers. They may be less inclined to pursue mistresses and patronize prostitutes if they have legally sanctioned variety at home. They may become less inclined to take advantage of no-fault divorce laws to abandon their wives for other women (opting instead to bring them into the household).

And perhaps polygamy will even cut down on pornography, once threesomes are no longer relegated to the world of naughty fantasy, but are a staple of routine married life.

Polygamy, like homosexuality, has long and storied roots in antiquity. In the Bible, Abraham kept the concubine Hagar alongside his wife Sarah, and had sons with both. Hagar’s descendants are modern day Muslims, who are permitted by the Koran to have up to four wives, provided they are all treated equally.

Why are Muslims denied this Allah-given right by state laws? Why were the Mormons — a perfectly lovely group of Christians — slaughtered and persecuted for practicing the ancient institution of polygamy? Mormon men took multiple wives to protect them spiritually; but even modern-day economics shows that married women fare better than unmarried women. Why not allow men to “look out” for more than one woman at a time?

Considering same-sex marriage is like trying to walk on top of a chain-link fence: you’ll fall off within minutes, and your only decision is which side of the fence to fall on: The side that favors keeping marriage between one man and one woman, the formula for baby-making and dual-gender parenting, or the side that favors letting any combination of men and women call themselves a marriage?

But one can’t walk along the top of the fence indefinitely. There’s a 50 percent chance of falling onto the side that favors any collection of people as a marriage, and that’s why the Rev. Gene Robinson is wrong. In opposing gay marriage, we are defending marriage from something that does indeed threaten it.

Bernadette Malone is the former editorial page editor of The Union Leader and New Hampshire Sunday News.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: calpowercrisis; civilunion; counterfeitmarriage; familyvsvilliage; feminazisrunwild; fraudmarriage; gaymirage; genderneutralagenda; homosexualagenda; ittakesavillage; lawlessness; leftdestroyssociety; leftsagenda; marriage; romans1; samesexmarriage; thelefthatesfamily
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To: optimistically_conservative
If this person is using DHCP servers from ISP Telecom (Germany), it has a very wide range of IP addresses, making it difficult to stop. You could ban assigned IPs for that country, but I wouldn't be able to see FR. :(
121 posted on 02/22/2004 2:15:56 PM PST by demlosers (More two-face from horse face.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
My posts must have gotten to her/it. I got Freepmail from all three.

Don't flatter yourself :>). I get them and I've never posted to her, she just doesn't like Israel.

122 posted on 02/22/2004 2:16:00 PM PST by SJackson (Visit http://www.JewPoint.blogspot.com)
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To: VRWC_minion
Hey, I don't bat for the other team.
123 posted on 02/22/2004 2:16:07 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: Dog
You vile idiot....

Who has been banned at least a dozen times already.

124 posted on 02/22/2004 2:16:55 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Devil_Anse
Oh, and check your freepmail. One of them is from me. :D
125 posted on 02/22/2004 2:17:27 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Dog; georgette; All
Hey! Georgie! From the freepmail I just got from you...

You, on the contrary, call homosexuals immoral and pervert, you write that Palestinians and all Muslims should be extincted and you do not waste a second on the thought that there may be a limit of how low the level of your bashing posts should be.

HOMOSEXUALS ARE IMMORAL AND PERVERTED..indeed they are!!!! Check my tagline for the remainder!

Idiot.

126 posted on 02/22/2004 2:17:30 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America and Israel)
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To: hellinahandcart
Had three lesbian trolls on this thread (probably all the same person). catherine miller, zara, and georgette. Sound familiar?

Other aliases she used:

reagans wife

Nancyagain

Republic Without Free Speech

ginawild for free speech

127 posted on 02/22/2004 2:19:40 PM PST by demlosers (More two-face from horse face.)
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To: Dog; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Can this maniac be stopped???

This time the freepmail was VILE.

128 posted on 02/22/2004 2:21:12 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: Dog; William Creel; Admin Moderator

Damn, I've received 8 ugly mails thus far today, all from trolls.

Guess we've hit them where it hurts. Ha Ha Ha.



129 posted on 02/22/2004 2:21:16 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: optimistically_conservative
Perhaps these names have been obtained from the FR chat list? Seems like they have obtained a list.
130 posted on 02/22/2004 2:21:48 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: MEG33; Dan from Michigan; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
In case we miss any of her screeds..she freepmails them."Delete" is easy.

However, even when the post is deleted from a thread, it still shows up in the "My Comments" page. It posted comments directly to me and a whole bunch of other Frepers. I wish it were possible for those deleted posts to disappear there too.

I also wish it were possible to separate out the to and from posts on the "My Comments page", and that the comments were searchable by various criteria including date. I have nearly 10,000 comments posted, but it is very dificult for me to find any particular comment from months or years ago.

131 posted on 02/22/2004 2:22:02 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Admin Moderator
I have not engaged in the debate on this thread but three of these disruptors have been sending me emails.....Perhaps it isn't feasible but I wish there was some way you could 'exorcise' their freepmail when you 'ban' them.

Thanks for your help.
132 posted on 02/22/2004 2:22:08 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: ohioWfan

Just one maniac? Heck, I've had mail from 4, maybe 5 individual maniacs. LOL! Sick scumbags.
133 posted on 02/22/2004 2:22:14 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
Can these be called hack attacks? If so can we get the FBI to arrest the perps.
134 posted on 02/22/2004 2:22:43 PM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: georgette
Take me off this thread. I am part of any of this.
135 posted on 02/22/2004 2:23:35 PM PST by LetsRok
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To: SJackson
I get them and I've never posted to her, she just doesn't like Israel.

I never posted to it/her before. I doubt anyone ever posted to it/her before. It/she either figured out a way to get all the freeper names out of a thread or selected particular freepers to post to by reading the posts.

136 posted on 02/22/2004 2:26:36 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: longtermmemmory; Jim Robinson
Have they hacked-in or merely signed-up for one sick purpose?

I think one of them could very well be a person banned last night, since he took issue with a few of us and we were the recipients of his first nasty mail.

Either way, I suspect this is an orchestrated attack from some of the truly twisted on another forum. They've been "planning" similar for a week or so now.

137 posted on 02/22/2004 2:26:56 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: SJackson
Man, the muslim new year really brings them out!
138 posted on 02/22/2004 2:27:36 PM PST by tubavil
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To: LetsRok
Take me off this thread. I am part of any of this.

Too late - you have been selected.

139 posted on 02/22/2004 2:28:09 PM PST by demlosers (More two-face from horse face.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Guess i better check my mail!
140 posted on 02/22/2004 2:28:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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