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Federally Funded Program Would Help Working Poor Get Cars
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | February 20, 2004 | Scott Williams

Posted on 02/21/2004 12:41:34 PM PST by Chummy

New program would help the working poor get cars

By SCOTT WILLIAMS
swilliams@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Feb. 20, 2004

For the working poor, having a dependable automobile can mean the difference between getting ahead or going nowhere - in more ways than one.

That is why social service agencies are trying to launch a program in Milwaukee and Waukesha counties that would use federal money to help low-income residents buy used automobiles.

Known as "Ways to Work," the program is based on the assumption that mass transit and other options are not always adequate, especially for people who must commute long distances to work.

Proponents tell the story of a cleaning lady in Illinois who was forced to drag a vacuum cleaner on the bus with her between jobs.

Some skeptics question whether helping people buy cars is a legitimate government function and whether the program would fill area highways with uninsured drivers or vehicles in disrepair.

But advocates say Ways to Work would help the working poor improve their quality of life by giving them easier access not only to employment, but also health care, child care and other basic needs.

Car loans of up to $4,000 would be made available to working parents who meet income guidelines in Milwaukee County or Waukesha County.

"It isn't the end-all, but it is one step," said David Larson, president of Lutheran Social Services, one of the groups pushing the program locally.

A delegation from the Milwaukee area is scheduled to travel to Washington, D.C., next week to lobby for funding from the Federal Transit Administration. Although primarily a backer of mass transit, the FTA has provided millions of dollars for Ways to Work efforts in other communities.

FTA spokeswoman Tina Burke said her agency acknowledges that mass transit is not perfect and does not always solve mobility issues for everyone.

Of the car-loan program, Burke said: "It is just one of the many options to help people get a job and keep a job. It has seen great results."

The federal government in recent years has provided more than $10 million to support Ways to Work in more than 20 other cities, including Chicago, Detroit, Indianapolis and St. Louis.

A similar program, known as the Family Loan Fund, operated in Milwaukee in the mid-1990s through Family Service of Milwaukee. But after that agency became part of Aurora Health Care, the program was discontinued.

Leading the drive for Ways to Work is the Alliance for Children & Families, a Milwaukee-based coalition of social service agencies.

Robert Duea, president of Ways to Work at the alliance, said while he could not estimate how many people the program would help locally, he said other communities generally have seen 60 to 100 car loans approved each year.

Duea described the typical problem as working parents who rely on mass transit and must get started early in the morning, drop their kids off at school or day care, get back on a bus and ride to work in another city or county - and then do the same thing in reverse at the end of the day.

Under such circumstances, many people are unable to hold down a job and improve their quality of life, Duea said.

"It doesn't work well for them at all," he said. "When we built this country, we built it for the automobile."

Program has skeptics

Government leaders in both Milwaukee County and Waukesha County are being asked to support the effort to get federal funding for the program.

When the concept was unveiled in Waukesha County earlier this week, some members of a county advisory panel voiced skepticism.

County Supervisor Patricia Haukohl of Brookfield questioned whether the federal government should be financing car loans or whether such assistance should come from employers that locate in the suburbs knowing that their labor base is in Milwaukee.

Haukohl and others also said they worried about supporting a program that would fill the highways with drivers who cannot afford insurance or who drive jalopies.

"That's my first thought," Haukohl said. "What are we putting on the roads?"

Proponents said the program still is being developed and that they would try to address those kinds of issues.

Peter Schuler, director of health and human services for Waukesha County, said the intent is to promote a "normalization" for low-income people by giving them the same mobility as others in the work force.

Officials in both Milwaukee County and Waukesha County have recognized in recent years that a lack of transportation was creating difficulties for workers who must commute across the region, Schuler said.

"We already know people have trouble getting to work," he said. "It's not like it's a mystery."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: cars; federal; nannystate; poor; program; taxpayers; transportation; turass; wisconsin
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Have at it. Now those who work hard and try to provide for their families will be funding auto purchases for "the working poor."
1 posted on 02/21/2004 12:41:35 PM PST by Chummy
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To: Chummy; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...
This will not work in CA. All the old, cheap cars are being removed from the roads as gross polluters. I have always maintianed that the smog laws were biased against the working pour.
2 posted on 02/21/2004 12:44:20 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Chummy
Will they be required to provide proof of US citizenship?
3 posted on 02/21/2004 12:46:52 PM PST by ikka
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To: Chummy
Kool...I need a Porsche. Candy Apple red please...
4 posted on 02/21/2004 12:47:58 PM PST by Wheee The People (If this post doesn't make any sense, then it also doubles as a bump.)
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To: Chummy
Will they also be provided with free car insurance?
5 posted on 02/21/2004 12:48:38 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Chummy
If the govt guarantees "X dollars" to buy a car then the price of used cars will become "current price + X dollars". Bank on it.

I guess it's not enough to give free drugs to the richest people in America - the elderly. Now we gotta give cars to "the poor". Ever been through a "poor" neighborhood? They could afford cars if they didn't have to sport the latest fashions.

6 posted on 02/21/2004 12:49:05 PM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand... if you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Chummy
And I suppose they will get a break on their car insurance too. After all we can pay a little more to make up the difference.( I don't really have to put a sarcasm note now do I?)
7 posted on 02/21/2004 12:50:55 PM PST by heylady
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To: Chummy
The madness is neverending. I think government has syphillitic dementia.
8 posted on 02/21/2004 12:51:22 PM PST by cyborg
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To: farmfriend
It wont work anywhere. Good idea, horrible implementation.
The "iron lot" dealers will RAPE the buyers.
9 posted on 02/21/2004 12:51:49 PM PST by international american (Dimpled chads for sale...buy one, get one free!)
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To: Chummy
One more thing:

But advocates say Ways to Work would help the working poor improve their quality of life by giving them easier access not only to employment, but also health care, child care and other basic needs.

Then let the advocates get togther and buy cars for the "poor". Leave me out of it. I'm already in enough financial trouble through having to afford private school in order to keep my daughter out of the hands of the filthy criminal Ritalin pushers.

10 posted on 02/21/2004 12:52:06 PM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand... if you are French raise both hands.)
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To: cyborg
I think government has syphillitic dementia.

Lol! I thought that was only in Canada. Aren't they having a problem with this up there?

11 posted on 02/21/2004 12:53:24 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: heylady
And I suppose they will get a break on their car insurance too.

What about repairs?

12 posted on 02/21/2004 12:53:49 PM PST by Dianna
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To: Dianna
Oh, the taxpayers simply **must** subsidise repairs and inspection and licensing fees, too. How could you even be so heartless as to think otherwise?
13 posted on 02/21/2004 12:56:03 PM PST by SAJ
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To: farmfriend
Well knowing how politicians of the same sick ideology love to get in bed with eachother, I wouldn't doubt they're infected too :)
14 posted on 02/21/2004 12:56:39 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Chummy
We have a program up here that's not gov't funded but works pretty well. It's a non-profit that takes donations of old cars, fixes them up, then gives them or sells them cheap to poor people who need a car to get to work.
They also use the garage where the cars are fixed up as a training ground to train people as mechanics.

Everyone wins - donor gets a tax deduction, mechanic gets training, poor person gets car. And the gov isn't involved.

My only beef with it was they wouldn't take my husbands 13 year old Golf or my 12 year old Acura when it came time to get rid of them. They only take cars under 10 years old. It bugged me to think that it was apparently good enough for me to drive but not good enough to give to someone carless.
But where I live the rust starts to take hold after 10 years so maybe they're just protecting themselves from having to deal with major body rot in the donated cars.

LQ
15 posted on 02/21/2004 12:58:18 PM PST by LizardQueen
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To: Chummy
And how are they then going to pay for insurance, gas, maintenance and tags? Let me guess, they won't--we will.
16 posted on 02/21/2004 12:58:56 PM PST by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: SAJ
There already is a program in Pennsylvania in which the taxpayers get to buy the car, and then pay for repairs and insurance. I think the bennies last for two years, and it is a total give away (no loan involved).
17 posted on 02/21/2004 1:01:39 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Who would a terrorist vote for?)
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To: Chummy
This'll just put a bunch of uninsured, judgment-proof drivers on the road.

Let 'em stick with:


18 posted on 02/21/2004 1:02:09 PM PST by martin_fierro (O Tempora! O Mores! O Canada!)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!
19 posted on 02/21/2004 1:03:43 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Chummy
Great idea. Now the "poor" can be introduced to such joys as auto insurance, gas, tires, parking tickets, oil changes, parking garages, towing charges, transmission overhauls, brake work, registration fees, battery replacements, highway tolls, inspection fees, windshield wiper replacements, parking meters, tunnel and bridge tolls, speeding tickets and other moving violations, and all the other expenses that besiege the modern driver today - especially those with second hand cars.

Just reading that last paragraph makes me pine for those long-ago days when I was "poor" and had to take the subway to work.

Welcome to our world!

20 posted on 02/21/2004 1:05:17 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I do not like the new "Starbucks-style" coffee lids at Dunkin' Donuts)
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