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The FR Range: Debut Weekly Thread for Feb. 19th, 2004
FR's military, sportsmen, and second amendment supporters | 2/19/2004 | Long Cut and risk

Posted on 02/19/2004 11:17:23 PM PST by risk

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To: Travis McGee; yarddog; Eaker; Molly Pitcher; Atlantic Friend
What a doll! I assign her a patron saint:


Jeanne d'Arc

81 posted on 02/21/2004 6:29:08 AM PST by risk
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To: SAMWolf
You're welcome, Sam, it's an honor to link to your threads. Please drop in and support the second amendment here whenever you can.
82 posted on 02/21/2004 6:30:55 AM PST by risk
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To: PoorMuttly; Long Cut; Travis McGee; LindaSOG
Would it be possible to add "Old Glory" to "Old Bess" and "Old Hunter"..???

I'd like to explain why it's not there (yet). First, I just wanted a long, thin Brown Bess rifle at the top of the thread. But my superior comrades in arms demanded that we make it clear that our goal is 100% restoration of the meaning and intent of the second amendment. Second, this is an international thread. Long Cut and I welcome anyone from any country to contribute on this thread. The right to bear arms is sacred to all human beings, not just Americans!

Long live the The 1st Navy Jack! Long live liberty!

Perhaps BUNTING around the whole thing..?

I actually wish I could shrink the profile and make it tidier. I'd go back to the pooch and the rifle if I could! This is Eastbound's latest work:

The porch isn't there, but it's still a great way to visualize the Muttly, who wishes he could get his master to take him out hunting today, but knows he's got to spend the best hours at his computer earning their keep.

83 posted on 02/21/2004 6:48:28 AM PST by risk
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To: Eastbound; Travis McGee; Long Cut
I think I like the visual elelments to float in separate table cells. That way it squeezes and expands as per the width of the browser. Might you be able to chop them into separate parts and offer individual URLs?
84 posted on 02/21/2004 6:51:23 AM PST by risk
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To: longtermmemmory; Eastbound; ALOHA RONNIE
"I refuse to sit idly by during my campaign for the presidency while they push their divisive agenda on America and slander those who stand up for gun safety." --Kerry

He's been on fools' errands since he came home and joined the VVAW. Now he wants to take on the NRA.

85 posted on 02/21/2004 7:06:40 AM PST by risk
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To: Travis McGee
When you factor in medical treatment then and now, guns are actually safer to gunshot victim.

Yup!

You know, it never ceases to amaze me how many people think they have "something to say" just because they said something.

86 posted on 02/21/2004 7:07:21 AM PST by Woahhs
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To: Beelzebubba
Actually, this should be a great new feature.

It's Long Cut's idea, Matt's attention to details, PoorMuttly's meme, and Eastbound's graphics. So you're welcome from all of us :)

Drop in and offer us new info or commentary on firearms rights, safety, and technology any time!

87 posted on 02/21/2004 7:09:11 AM PST by risk
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To: risk

Thanks for the comments. This is one of her a few years ago and the other is her baby. He is only 36 hours old in the pic and has the same expression as his Mother.

That thing on his arm is because his white blood count was slightly high and they thought he might have an infection. The Dr. checked him over the same day and said he was fine and removed it.

He looks like my Son-in-law so it is a good thing he is a boy.

88 posted on 02/21/2004 7:13:25 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Woahhs; Travis McGee
You know, it never ceases to amaze me how many people think they have "something to say" just because they said something.

Heh! I can't speak for Trav, but just before that we were talking about this being a test thread... We were joshing around back there at the beginning.

89 posted on 02/21/2004 7:13:39 AM PST by risk
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To: yarddog
I predict a cast of thousands...
90 posted on 02/21/2004 7:15:15 AM PST by risk
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To: bc2
Thanks, see post #88.

She likes to shoot if I take her but is not really into it like I would have wanted. She will go if I ask her but probably would rather be shopping with her Mother. She really is a good shot tho.

91 posted on 02/21/2004 7:20:33 AM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog
Females are known to have better potential as marksmen.
92 posted on 02/21/2004 7:28:17 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
I actually think she could have been a first rate marksman if she really wanted to.

I am a pretty good shot, I won the all-comers match at my gun club in Kansas the only time I entered (technically I didn't win but only because I fouled up my score card I did have the most hits), the only reason I mention that is she once beat me.

She was around 12 years old and we were shooting a target grade air rifle at empty .22 cases at about 25 feet. The rifle was capable of hitting every time if you did your part.

After I barely beat her a couple of times and was giving her a little good natured kidding, I noticed a determined look on her face. The next time we shot She hit ten out of ten and beat me. Of course then I had to take the kidding.

93 posted on 02/21/2004 7:40:02 AM PST by yarddog
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To: yarddog
Yeah, look out for those "determined looks."
94 posted on 02/21/2004 7:43:17 AM PST by risk
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To: risk
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KERRY = Hanoi Radio ..always has.



'KERRY Denies Quotes Accusing U.S. Soldiers of War Crimes'

http://www.Newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/2/21/92521.shtml

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95 posted on 02/21/2004 7:48:39 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: risk

96 posted on 02/21/2004 8:17:29 AM PST by SAMWolf (Contrary to popular belief Hamas has nothing to do with ham. If you throw ham at them they get angry)
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To: risk
Your reply was excellent...and Muttly sincerely wishes to welcome our international FRiends. He just loves and is so grateful for what this country has done for him and his family...and ancestors...and people all over the world.

So...no bunting O.K....he found the porch on his own...and is SURE there is a mouse under THIS porch, too...so everything is fine according to Muttly...who now has a REAL place to live !

(going back to sleep...which is his Official Seal of Approval)
97 posted on 02/21/2004 10:13:24 AM PST by PoorMuttly (The price of Freedom is eternal Muttly)
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To: risk
Gotta leave the house, but wanted to ask you to point to the graphics on this thread that you want to use. Tell me what size for each and I'll re-do them separately and link them separately if you want to use them. Also, do you want the "Old Bess" label inside or outside of the picture?

Later -- Dave
98 posted on 02/21/2004 3:04:56 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound; Long Cut; PoorMuttly
Brown Bess"Old Bess"
Old Hunter
"Old Hunter"
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FREE FOR ALL!
99 posted on 02/21/2004 5:52:04 PM PST by risk (I actually think the above is fine. It won't load down your server, either!)
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To: risk; Long Cut; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wardaddy; harpseal
Okay, here's a QUESTION for those assembled:

I have a ParaOrdnance P10 in .45 ACP. It's the aluminum frame with MMC tritium night sights. It's a good gun, but it feels too "blocky" in my somewhat smallish hands, like a 2x4. I have some cash (about $500) and I have decided to trade it in (plus the cash) next week at the gun show and try and pick up a new carry piece. I already have a Colt Government model and a Combat Commander both in 45ACP. They're too big and too heavy. I have come to decide that I need a "micro" .45. I have four main choices unless you guys can suggest an alternative. There is:

Colt Defender; Springfield Armory "Micro"; ParaOrdnance C6, called the Para-Carry; and the Kimber Ultra Compact II. I'm afraid I have real problems with the C6 or anything from ParaOrdnance. I have fired a P12 and have recently experienced "failures to feed" with my own P10. The P12 I shot had the same problems. Now, I think my mag springs are bad and I put Wolff +10% springs in my mags, but the P12 had exactly the same problem with brand new mags. This begins, in my mind, to look like a problem of product reliability. This past weekend, I shot my neighbors Springfield Armory V10 (with the built in compensator?) and although it had little felt recoil, the redirected muzzle blast was unbeliveable. I'd really hesitate to shoot from a position of retention or from the hip, those hot gases would like...blow my face off. Well, it could blind me I'm sure. And man, it IS LOUD!

I do like the Kimber and I do like the Colt Defender. The other Springfield Armory I'm sure is a fine gun too. any other suggestions? It HAS to be a 1911 style gun. I just sold a Glock M30 and that was a GREAT gun but it felt "blocky" in my hands too. I don't think I'm looking for a capacity of over seven or eight rounds here. If I want a High Cap, I'll go Gov't or Commander size, not compact. any ideas?

100 posted on 02/21/2004 6:31:38 PM PST by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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