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Hardball:Sen. John Edwards (on Iraq: No. I didn’t get misled)
msnbc ^ | Oct.13 2003 | hardball

Posted on 02/19/2004 3:43:19 AM PST by Eurotwit

Let me ask but the war, because I know these are all students and a lot of guys the age of these students are fighting over there and cleaning up over there, and they’re doing the occupation.

Were we right to go to this war alone, basically without the Europeans behind us? Was that something we had to do?

EDWARDS: I think that we were right to go. I think we were right to go to the United Nations. I think we couldn’t let those who could veto in the Security Council hold us hostage.

And I think Saddam Hussein, being gone is good. Good for the American people, good for the security of that region of the world, and good for the Iraqi people.

MATTHEWS: If you think the decision, which was made by the president, when basically he saw the French weren’t with us and the Germans and the Russians weren’t with us, was he right to say, “We’re going anyway”?

EDWARDS: I stand behind my support of that, yes.

MATTHEWS: You believe in that?

EDWARDS: Yes.

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about-Since you did support the resolution and you did support that ultimate solution to go into combat and to take over that government and occupy that country. Do you think that you, as a United States Senator, got the straight story from the Bush administration on this war? On the need for the war? Did you get the straight story?

EDWARDS: Well, the first thing I should say is I take responsibility for my vote. Period. And I did what I did based upon a belief, Chris, that Saddam Hussein’s potential for getting nuclear capability was what created the threat. That was always the focus of my concern. Still is the focus of my concern.

So did I get misled? No. I didn’t get misled.

MATTHEWS: Did you get an honest reading on the intelligence?

EDWRADS: But now we’re getting to the second part of your question.

I think we have to get to the bottom of this. I think there’s clear inconsistency between what’s been found in Iraq and what we were told.

And as you know, I serve on the Senate Intelligence Committee. So it wasn’t just the Bush administration. I sat in meeting after meeting after meeting where we were told about the presence of weapons of mass destruction. There is clearly a disconnect between what we were told and what, in fact, we found there.

MATTHEWS: If you knew last October when you had to cast an aye or nay vote for this war, that we would be unable to find weapons of mass destruction after all these months there, would you still have supported the war?

EDWARDS: It wouldn’t change my views. I said before, I think that the threat here was a unique threat. It was Saddam Hussein, the potential for Saddam getting nuclear weapons, given his history and the fact that he started the war before.

MATTHEWS: Do you feel now that you have evidence in your hands that he was on the verge of getting nuclear weapons?

EDWARDS: No, I wouldn’t go that far.

MATTHES: What would you say?

EDWARDS: What I would say is there’s a decade long pattern of an effort to get nuclear capability, from the former Soviet Union, trying to get access to scientists...

MATTHEWS: What about Africa?

EDWARDS: ... trying to get-No. I don’t think so. At least not from the evidence.

MATTHEWS: Were you misled by the president in the State of the Union address on the argument that Saddam Hussein was trying get uranium from Niger?

EDWARDS: I guess the answer to that is no.

I did not put a lot of stock in that.

MATTHEWS: But you didn’t believe-But you weren’t misled?

EDWARDS: No, I was not misled because I didn’t put a lot of stock in to it begin with.

As I said before, I think what happened here is, for over a decade, there is strong, powerful evidence, which I still believe is true, that Saddam Hussein had been trying to get nuclear capability. Either from North Korea, from the former Soviet Union, getting access to scientists, trying to get access to raw fissile material. I don’t-that I don’t have any question about.

MATTHEWS: The United States has had a long history of nonintervention, of basically taking the “don’t tread on me and if you don’t we’ll leave you alone.” We broke with that tradition for Iraq. What is your standard for breaking with tradition of nonintervention?

EDWARDS: When somebody like Saddam Hussein presents a direct threat to the security of the American people and, in this case, the security of a region of the world that I think is critical.

MATTHEWS: A direct threat to us. What was it? Just to get that down. What is it? Knowing everything you know now, what was the direct threat this guy posed to us here in America?

EDWARDS: You didn’t get let me finish. There were two pieces to that. I said both a direct threat to us and a direct threat to a region of the world that is incredibly dangerous.

And I think that with Saddam Hussein, they’ve got nuclear capability, it would have changed the dynamic in that part of the world entirely. And as a result, would have created a threat to the American people. So that’s what I think the threat was.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; edwards; edwardswatch; hardball; matthews; msnbc; transcript
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To: The G Man
Some moderators use their power to censor FreeRepublic.com.

The other day I had a post that was moved to general on the whim of the current moderator, that is censorship.

After waiting a few hours, I reposted the exact same post and got a very favorable response and over 150 replies.....

some people can't handle power without abuse.

21 posted on 02/19/2004 4:27:59 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: Coop
He certainly seems to be the best of the bunch. He doesn't make me physically ill like the rest of them.



22 posted on 02/19/2004 4:29:21 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: William McKinley
Chris Matthews ought to just put a full page ad in the NYT asking for some Democrat willing to go on his show and shout from the rafters that the President lied to us, to them, to everyone; that we were mislead and betrayed...YES BETRAYED BY HIM!!!.
23 posted on 02/19/2004 4:30:16 AM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Coop
Now this I can respect. Unfortunately the dems are going to nominateKerry and our Al Quida enemy in Iraq will cheerfully supply him with as many body bags as he needs to pursue the democrat's anti-war campaign.
24 posted on 02/19/2004 4:30:59 AM PST by pcx99
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To: William McKinley
Date of the interview was October,2003.
25 posted on 02/19/2004 4:31:09 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Eurotwit
When asked about Gov Schwarzenegger's potential to be a good gov, Edwards replied that he had serious doubts because:

Well, I mean, he-First of all, he has no experience governing....

26 posted on 02/19/2004 4:31:20 AM PST by elli1
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To: MEG33
Oh.

Nevermind.

27 posted on 02/19/2004 4:33:47 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: The Wizard
Some moderators use their power to censor FreeRepublic.com. The other day I had a post that was moved to general on the whim of the current moderator, that is censorship. After waiting a few hours, I reposted the exact same post and got a very favorable response and over 150 replies..... some people can't handle power without abuse.

Perhaps you'd like a tissue? ROTFLMBO!

Hey, if you don't like the rules, leave.

Moving a biography of Lenin from Fiction to History is not censorship, it's smart. Burning said book would be censorship.

28 posted on 02/19/2004 4:34:19 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: The Wizard
You were moved to chat and feel censored?
29 posted on 02/19/2004 4:37:29 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: MEG33
the vast majority of responders come here, not general interest.
30 posted on 02/19/2004 4:38:43 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: The G Man
What is interesting is that any democratic ticket that includes Edwards would pretty much have to forget about the "Bush lied" approach.
31 posted on 02/19/2004 4:41:25 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: The Wizard
Perhaps if you occasionally posted an actual article, instead of Star Commander updates, your threads might not be "censored" quite as much. :-D
32 posted on 02/19/2004 4:42:17 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
More people trust Kerry than Bush.

Most people don't know a damn thing about Kerry.

33 posted on 02/19/2004 4:44:08 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Eurotwit
I just got this email sent to me & think it's worth posting here for others to cut, paste & send. Spead the truth!

The following appeared in the Durham, NC local paper as a letter to the editor. Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history.

Let's clear up one point: We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11. Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims.

FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman finished that war and started one in Korea, North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year.

Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent, Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.

Worst president in history? Come on!

Pass this on and spread the truth!
34 posted on 02/19/2004 4:44:41 AM PST by demkicker
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To: Coop
I have no complaints actually....FreeRepublic.com and my fellow freepers have been very fair and supportive of my posts.....and usually agree with the conclusions, far more often than might be thought.....

The reponse for so many is why I post.

We are in this together, and as a professional person, I post here for free what othes pay for.

In my way, I support FreeRepublic.....

Not all that glitters is gold.

35 posted on 02/19/2004 4:47:32 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: demkicker
Outstanding points! Bump!
36 posted on 02/19/2004 4:53:53 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Eurotwit
bump
37 posted on 02/19/2004 4:54:48 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Eurotwit
"The United States has had a long history of nonintervention..."

...until terrorists, with help from Saddam, flew their hijacked planes into the Twin Towers, declaring war against America - why do people like Matthews, Katie, etc. always leave out the TT's, almost as if it never happened.

As for France, Germany and Russia, they were busy with the "Oil For Food Program" and stood to loose millions if not billions, only Kofi knows for sure.......Those three countries were caught with their hands in the Iraq cookie jar! Don’t ever forget that Kofi was running that little scam.

38 posted on 02/19/2004 4:57:43 AM PST by yoe (WMD come in small containers/vials...small minds don't want you to know that.)
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To: PGalt
Outstanding points! Bump!

I wish everyone would flood the internet with it! Should be mandatory reading!
39 posted on 02/19/2004 5:00:38 AM PST by demkicker
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To: demkicker
BUMP!

Ping!

40 posted on 02/19/2004 5:01:21 AM PST by yoe (WMD come in small containers/vials...small minds don't want you to know that.)
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