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Hardball:Sen. John Edwards (on Iraq: No. I didn’t get misled)
msnbc ^ | Oct.13 2003 | hardball

Posted on 02/19/2004 3:43:19 AM PST by Eurotwit

Let me ask but the war, because I know these are all students and a lot of guys the age of these students are fighting over there and cleaning up over there, and they’re doing the occupation.

Were we right to go to this war alone, basically without the Europeans behind us? Was that something we had to do?

EDWARDS: I think that we were right to go. I think we were right to go to the United Nations. I think we couldn’t let those who could veto in the Security Council hold us hostage.

And I think Saddam Hussein, being gone is good. Good for the American people, good for the security of that region of the world, and good for the Iraqi people.

MATTHEWS: If you think the decision, which was made by the president, when basically he saw the French weren’t with us and the Germans and the Russians weren’t with us, was he right to say, “We’re going anyway”?

EDWARDS: I stand behind my support of that, yes.

MATTHEWS: You believe in that?

EDWARDS: Yes.

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about-Since you did support the resolution and you did support that ultimate solution to go into combat and to take over that government and occupy that country. Do you think that you, as a United States Senator, got the straight story from the Bush administration on this war? On the need for the war? Did you get the straight story?

EDWARDS: Well, the first thing I should say is I take responsibility for my vote. Period. And I did what I did based upon a belief, Chris, that Saddam Hussein’s potential for getting nuclear capability was what created the threat. That was always the focus of my concern. Still is the focus of my concern.

So did I get misled? No. I didn’t get misled.

MATTHEWS: Did you get an honest reading on the intelligence?

EDWRADS: But now we’re getting to the second part of your question.

I think we have to get to the bottom of this. I think there’s clear inconsistency between what’s been found in Iraq and what we were told.

And as you know, I serve on the Senate Intelligence Committee. So it wasn’t just the Bush administration. I sat in meeting after meeting after meeting where we were told about the presence of weapons of mass destruction. There is clearly a disconnect between what we were told and what, in fact, we found there.

MATTHEWS: If you knew last October when you had to cast an aye or nay vote for this war, that we would be unable to find weapons of mass destruction after all these months there, would you still have supported the war?

EDWARDS: It wouldn’t change my views. I said before, I think that the threat here was a unique threat. It was Saddam Hussein, the potential for Saddam getting nuclear weapons, given his history and the fact that he started the war before.

MATTHEWS: Do you feel now that you have evidence in your hands that he was on the verge of getting nuclear weapons?

EDWARDS: No, I wouldn’t go that far.

MATTHES: What would you say?

EDWARDS: What I would say is there’s a decade long pattern of an effort to get nuclear capability, from the former Soviet Union, trying to get access to scientists...

MATTHEWS: What about Africa?

EDWARDS: ... trying to get-No. I don’t think so. At least not from the evidence.

MATTHEWS: Were you misled by the president in the State of the Union address on the argument that Saddam Hussein was trying get uranium from Niger?

EDWARDS: I guess the answer to that is no.

I did not put a lot of stock in that.

MATTHEWS: But you didn’t believe-But you weren’t misled?

EDWARDS: No, I was not misled because I didn’t put a lot of stock in to it begin with.

As I said before, I think what happened here is, for over a decade, there is strong, powerful evidence, which I still believe is true, that Saddam Hussein had been trying to get nuclear capability. Either from North Korea, from the former Soviet Union, getting access to scientists, trying to get access to raw fissile material. I don’t-that I don’t have any question about.

MATTHEWS: The United States has had a long history of nonintervention, of basically taking the “don’t tread on me and if you don’t we’ll leave you alone.” We broke with that tradition for Iraq. What is your standard for breaking with tradition of nonintervention?

EDWARDS: When somebody like Saddam Hussein presents a direct threat to the security of the American people and, in this case, the security of a region of the world that I think is critical.

MATTHEWS: A direct threat to us. What was it? Just to get that down. What is it? Knowing everything you know now, what was the direct threat this guy posed to us here in America?

EDWARDS: You didn’t get let me finish. There were two pieces to that. I said both a direct threat to us and a direct threat to a region of the world that is incredibly dangerous.

And I think that with Saddam Hussein, they’ve got nuclear capability, it would have changed the dynamic in that part of the world entirely. And as a result, would have created a threat to the American people. So that’s what I think the threat was.

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1 posted on 02/19/2004 3:43:19 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit; William McKinley; kattracks
Geez, I actually have more respect for the ambulance chaser after seeing the above transcript. Impressive.

Not that I'll be putting his bumper sticker on my car anytime soon...

2 posted on 02/19/2004 3:47:51 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry.)
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To: Eurotwit
"EDWARDS: I think that we were right to go. I think we were right to go to the United Nations. I think we couldn’t let those who could veto in the Security Council hold us hostage. And I think Saddam Hussein, being gone is good. Good for the American people, good for the security of that region of the world, and good for the Iraqi people. "

Well, for a sleazy trial lawyer, appears you've got some slight degree of honor in you. (He also must know that once the Bush campaign fires their engines up they're gonna steamroll everyone on the Iraq issue)

3 posted on 02/19/2004 3:48:18 AM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheny '04.)
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To: Coop
The United States has had a long history of nonintervention, of basically taking the “don’t tread on me and if you don’t we’ll leave you alone.” We broke with that tradition for Iraq. What is your standard for breaking with tradition of nonintervention?

What is this fat, no-ratings sissy talking about? American non-intervention in the Spanish American War? Mexican War? WWI? WW2? Korea? Nam? Grenada? IraqI? What planet is fatboy living on?

4 posted on 02/19/2004 3:53:25 AM PST by Huck (OK. I'm over it.)
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As everyone here knows, pointed out so perfectly by El Rushbo, the democrats need to feed their partners in crime by deciding on a universal term that is then used to create the illusion that there is a common realization among the press of a real problem.....

When this was used in a simpler news world, it looked like everyone came upon the thought innocently and the folks at home were fooled...

The media whores who support this criminal manipulation designed to look like "truth" have been eviserated by the 24 hour news cycle that sees the "word of the year" coming up way to often to be just a coincedence.....it becomes clear that this is an organized ploy of unscruplous people that are willing to do anything to regain the power they've lost

Welcome to credibility

The strongest point in GWB's arsenal is that people believe him and trust him, (unlike the bozo who last occupied the White House) so of course, the democrats see that this must be attacked.....

The problem with gravitas in the past, and credibility now is that it gets driven into the ground by so many different media types and dem politicians, that it becomes clear to the folks at home that this isn't anything more than a campaign message, and it gets ignored becausethey do not like being manipulated.

Then the democrats walk around after the election wondering what happened and why there are now more GOP senators than before.....

Until they get rid of the terry's and the beasts, they are doomed

Just like the jobs lie.....America is changing and the jobs aren't being lost, more and more Americans are moving into the work force as Self Employed, possibily the coolest way to work....the democrats just leave out the fact that by measuring housholds instead of payrolls we are gaining not loosing, and for not making this point LOUDER I blame the RNC, not the crooks on the other side....

Come on Ed...you've started strong, now lets grow a pair and attack the same way.....

And this year's word for the GOP, to be used everywhere, should be LIARS

5 posted on 02/19/2004 3:58:40 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: Eurotwit
Hitlery-Edwards what a ticket
6 posted on 02/19/2004 4:00:37 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: The Wizard
Wiz ... are you going to spam every thread with that?
7 posted on 02/19/2004 4:06:57 AM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheny '04.)
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Someone should lance (Prissy Chrissy) like the festering boil that he is! That boy is infected.

Edweird is just starting his seperation and clarification stage from Lurch. Funny thing, he beat "horse face" in the race to the "middle". I will never trust Edweird. As a "dim" trial lawyer, he would argue that what he said was diametricly opposed to what he actually stated.

LLS
8 posted on 02/19/2004 4:10:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (We point out Kerry's record and the facts, and they just THINK it's attack politics.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Edwards is licking his chops to repeal the tax cuts. He thinks he is going to get 1/3 of such repeal and expenses.
9 posted on 02/19/2004 4:12:11 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Coop
I did too when he stood up for his vote and going to Iraq.

He then he started trashing the character of George Bush.He said despicable things.I like him less,now.I could not finish it.
10 posted on 02/19/2004 4:12:29 AM PST by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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To: Eurotwit
Interesting.

Of course Edwards voted against funding the Iraqi occupation, but still he seems to make sense.

Edwards does well among independents and Republicans, even with his class warfare rhetoric. I find his anti-free trade positions troubling for the future of the economy. Still I like the guy, (is it all a lawyer trick?)

I think Edwards will be the next Democrat president (in 2008).

11 posted on 02/19/2004 4:12:37 AM PST by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: The G Man
I posted it as a warning to the folks and someone moved it off the topic, what am I supposed to do when a moderator doesn't like me
12 posted on 02/19/2004 4:20:28 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: Eurotwit
They left will use a pound of truth to hide one ounce of lie.
13 posted on 02/19/2004 4:20:30 AM PST by garylmoore (It is as it was)
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To: Martin Tell
You will not think that after President Bush's campaign "educates" you on his past. He has been involved in some cases (where he profited greatly at the expense of those he pretends to represent), and when these and other sheister facts come out, his "glow" will be hugely deminished.

LLS
14 posted on 02/19/2004 4:21:13 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (We point out Kerry's record and the facts, and they just THINK it's attack politics.)
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To: The Wizard
More people trust Kerry than Bush.
15 posted on 02/19/2004 4:23:05 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative ("You can dip a pecan in gold, but it's still a pecan"-- Deep Thoughts by JC Watts)
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To: Coop
MATTHEWS: Were you misled by the president in the State of the Union address on the argument that Saddam Hussein was trying get uranium from Niger

Here we go again, the president did not say Niger in the State of the Union address

16 posted on 02/19/2004 4:23:28 AM PST by mware
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To: Coop
Except for the fact that he didn't have the balls to say this when Dean was in the race, and the fact that he flat out lies about there not being a coalition in Iraq (tell that to the Poles who just died, tell that to the Brits, tell that to the Aussies).

The fun part of this is what he is doing now is trying to draw some differences between himself and Kerry to see if he can steal the nomination-- and if he gets that traction, you will see Kerry start to adopt the same positions to remove the distinctions. So we are likely to see Kerry twisting himself into inconsistency again.

17 posted on 02/19/2004 4:24:18 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Not a chance.
18 posted on 02/19/2004 4:24:46 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
no one trusts Kerry
19 posted on 02/19/2004 4:25:09 AM PST by The Wizard (democrats are enemies of America)
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To: Eurotwit
Archived for the responses to "BUSH LIED" charges. [Caps and quotes just don't convey the feigned horror and venom dripping from those words that the users try to portray, da idiots....]
20 posted on 02/19/2004 4:26:05 AM PST by Adder
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