Don't Blame The Gay Lobby, Blame The American Family

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[FlyLow]

Should we recognize two men or two women as married? Or should we continue defining marriage as one man and one woman? America is not dealing merely with the rights of gays. America is falling and failing with demographic replenishment and family. The war about gay marriage is only a symptom of the greater disease, which is a culture not dedicated to family and children.

There are those who blame the rise of the Gay Lobby on certain activists, or on the atheist media. There is certainly some credit in that direction. However, if family-value Americans really believed in family, gays would still be in the closet. Gays are a product of a society where gender war and divorce are common.

As long as those who oppose gay marriage don’t themselves have a truly functioning family and marital environment, no amount of protesting will solve the problem. The Bible Belt has a huge divorce rate, almost as bad as everywhere else. What, then, can be done to fight with the gays about marriage when nobody wants it?

It is time for family people to put up or shut up. If they want family, then the tooth and nail, lobbying, and rallies must be against the society and culture of fun. This is the problem, not the gay lobby. Once we have strong families, the gay lobby will go tamely back to the closet. Or quite possibly, many homosexuals may take a new look at family, and decide to join the fun. Rabbi David Eidensohn

[boomop1]

The homosexual lobby wouldn't exist with out the support of the homosexual controlled NY Slimes, and the rest of the enabling media and government schools.

[StatesEnemy]

America is falling and failing with demographic replenishment and family

Men are wising up to the fact that they could loose EVERYTHING at the drop of a Family Court's gavel.

[anniegetyourgun]

You know, Rabbi....honesty doesn't seem to be a common virtue either. Perhaps that means we should just give up teaching our children that it's important?

The institution of marriage isn't the problem folks - it's the flawed human beings in it. That doesn't mean we throw the traditional marriage definition overboard, caving to the radical homosexual agenda.

[concerned about politics]

Once we have strong families, the gay lobby will go tamely back to the closet. Or quite possibly, many homosexuals may take a new look at family, and decide to join the fun. Rabbi David Eidensohn

Agreed. That's why President Bush is trying to strengthen marriage.
If you look at the $$$ social programs today, you'll see they're all a result of the lack of responsibility and family values. Once the moral fabric is torn, crime, dependency, disease, death, misery, and every death style you can think up rises to the surface.

People say they don't even like the 10 Commandments, but they're laws of human nature, and if followed they would eliminate government all together. There would be peace in the world. It's the natural result.

[King Black Robe]

The queer lobby is funded by AIDS education. In other words: US!

[Destro]

Maybe we can save the institution of marriage by allowing polygamy and concubinisim? Can't get more traditional and biblical then that... :)

[concerned about politics]

The homosexual lobby wouldn't exist with out the support of the homosexual controlled NY Slimes, and the rest of the enabling media and government schools.

They can't reproduce. They need other peoples children to increase their numbers. The more they can indoctrinate, the more political power they gain.
The children are not only political prey for homosexuals , they make great sex toys for them, too.

[genghis]

One problem is that SF mayor and judge should be in jail.
It is illegal for gays to marry each other and those individuals are neglecting their constitutional duties.

[boomop1]

May work for some, I have enough to deal with one but then she is the 3rd one. But maybe your right I am always ready but am not always received with glee, must be that senior moment thing.

[concerned about politics]

Maybe we can save the institution of marriage by allowing polygamy and concubinisim? Can't get more traditional and biblical then that... :)

At least they're between man and woman, not man/dog, woman/ snake, environmentalist/ tree knots, man/man, woman/woman. It's not an unnatural sex fetish. It's a natural drive.
One honorable thing about those two groups. They're not demanding we accept them, they're not threatening us litigation for not obeying them, and they're not in schools teaching their lifestyles to the children.
And they don't kill each other with diseases the tax payers have to bust their butts to pay for.
They're much more normal than homosexuals, and I have more respect for them, even though I don't agree with them. At least they fit in with nature. At least other life forms on the planet engage in the same behavior, where you can't say the same about queers. They're freaks of nature.

[cwb]

Yeah...that's one point he seemed to miss: They are ignoring laws that the American family has supported. When you get to that point, it's more than just the American families fault.

[MissAmericanPie]

I see what your saying, but most of America's decline and problems has been due to Judicial fiat that attacks all our institutions and forces the atheist governments own relgion and morals on the unwilling masses.

[Destro]

Relax-it was a joke.

[Destro]

Too late to save Henry VIII's wives. :)

[longtermmemmory]

the homosexuals are just "useful idiots" of the left. They are being used to push the ALI model divorce laws. Laws where a total stranger can claim rights to your children.

We need a conservative reformation of divorce law. (save the unworkable outlawing of divorce.) I would ask for one simple revision. Make fault part of equitable distribution. Eliminate community property, make it all equitable. Keep no fault so those who want out can get out, however non more cashout value of marriage for thieves and cheats (all forms of cheats).

Perhaps if woman (and men) realized that infidelity will result in loosing residential custody then that will be a clarifying issue.

Just a start. The ALI is an arm of the ABA. They need to be balanced because legislators have no other model laws to work off of. If you want legislators to act responsibly then you have to give them the tools.

[Taliesan]

And the family is failing because individuals believe they have a right to be happy which trumps the obligation to keep promises.

It all started with Abelard.

[WOSG]

This needs a barf alert. What a steaming pile of ad hominem and flawed logic.

[concerned about politics]

Relax-it was a joke.

It's true, you know. There's not one species of plant or animal on the entire planet that's homosexual.
If they even try it, they die off or get killed by the herd, flock, pack, etc. Nature will not allow them to live.
It's a wonder the envionmentalists aren't on our side on this issue.

[concerned about politics]

And the family is failing because individuals believe they have a right to be happy which trumps the obligation to keep promises.

NOW has taken the mother out of the home. Now, she has two jobs. 8 hours at work , and the rest of the time as mother. Because NOW told her men are evil rapists, they have to do it alone.
If by chance the man is around, his job is to cater to her demands, because she's too tired to cater to his needs. If he doesn't obey her, he's worthless.

The "village" is raising the children now. They're becoming wild animals. There's no one around to teach them what love and self accountability is. They're political toys for the NEA, ALF, ELF, GLADD. They're easy prey to induct into a life of hell.