[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Your use of the word Nazi betrays your bias. >>

My use of the word Nazi illustrates my objective and absolutely honest and true assessment of the situation.

National Socialism is a political movement which:

1) Eschews democracy

2) Calls for state control of media and the economy

3) Identifies all and sundry primarily through the lense of racial or demographic attributes

4) Assigns one group as "uebermenschen" ('a master race')

5) Assigns another group the role of "untermenschen" ('subhumans')

6) Practices genocide.

The Serb Nazis of Bosnia (and of much, but not all, of Serbia proper) fulfilled all six of these requirements. The Serb Nationalist movement hated democracy; they wanted voters, but only voters who were Serbs. (The ethnic cleansing program can be looked upon as congressional-redistricting-the-old-fashioned-way, i.e., at gunpoint). The whole point of the race war was antidemocratic: it was designed to distract the people of Serbia and other parts of the Yugoslavian federation not on immediate verge of total independence (i.e., outside of Slovenia and Croatia) on nationalist fanaticism so as to keep the voters from concentrating on throwing the commies-nazis out on their butts. They prevented any democratic elections for ten years, fulfilling condition 1.

Having succeeded at that, the Milosevici maintained total control over the media, the economy, and major industry. This fulfilled condition 2.

They identified EVERYONE ethnically and racially, as Serb and not-Serb, and saw the whole universe through the lenses of national identity. This fulfilled condition 3.

They assigned to Serbs the role of uebermenschen, and gave them a claim on every town and city where any Serb anywhere had lived. Thus condition 4.

They assigned the role of 'subhumans' to the Bosnian Muslims. They practiced ethnic cleansing, rape, and mass mayhem against them with impugnity, declaring them non-humans beneath the law (and butressed by such pseudo-scholarship as Biljana Plavsic's whose PhD thesis was on the genetic 'inferiority' of Bosnian Muslims). This fulfilled condition 5.

And finally, they practiced mass extermination against the Bosnian Muslims, particularly those prisoners they captured at Srebrenica, in an act calculated to extirpate any possibility of the return of the Muslims to the region after the war, by killing all the males and chasing all the females out to Tuzla. This fulfilled condition 6.

Six for Six. Seig heil, Slobodan Milosevic.

Oh, one more thing. Nazis aren't much for irony. Neither are Bosnian Serbs Nazis of the "SDS", "SRS", etc, who adopted as their national anthem a song which translates as "God Give Us Justice."

God help them if He ever does.

[ml/nj]

I think you had two sides "eschewing democracy." (And are you one of those folks who believes in democracy uber alles?)

I guess you didn't bother to read the NY Times article. Nor did you answer my questions. I won't bother wasting my time with you any further.

ML/NJ

[wonders]

I've ignored your tendentious posts for a long, long time, Jones. But, for the record, as an American, I'm ashamed of you. With your Nazi this and genocide that, you are part of the problem, not the solution. You have lowered yourself to the lowest levels of nationalism to be found in the Balkans (and that's saying a lot!).

I prefer the word "genocide" to be properly used, as in WWII and Rwanda. To bandy it about as you do cheapens the word and demeans the victims of true genocide. Secondly, I detest the "nazi" word being bandied about as you do. Same reasons.

All of the so-called points you made ref National Socialism can be pinned on all parties to the conflict, not just the Serbs.

BTW, I was there for years DURING the war.