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McSorely's celebrates 150th year [NYC's oldest pub]
The Journal News ^ | 2/17/04 | Michael Gannon

Posted on 02/17/2004 8:16:18 AM PST by Incorrigible

McSorely's celebrates 150th year

By MICHAEL GANNON
THE JOURNAL NEWS

(Original publication: February 17, 2004)

NEW YORK — Amid the smell of stale beer and ancient smoke, a few feet from the pot-bellied stove warming the early afternoon customers in the middle of the room, Joe McKiernan stood yesterday over his twin mugs of light ale resting on the bar at McSorley's Old Ale House.

"I'm probably one of their older customers," McKiernan, a 57-year-old security guard from the Bronx, said as he contemplated ordering the bar's turkey sandwich he has come to enjoy during 40 years of patronage.

Pausing for a moment, however, he reconsidered what he had just said. "I mean, living customers."

True, McSorley's — which today celebrates its 150th birthday — has outlived its original patrons, but neither their ilk nor much else has changed since the venerable East Village bar first opened its doors in 1854.

The bar's original tap still pours only two beers, McSorley's light or dark, ordered two at a time by patrons who each day pack the bar's sawdust-covered floors. Old pictures, yellowed newspaper clippings and other relics line the walls, contributing to the place's musty ambience.

Surly waiters in gray smocks brusquely elbow their way through the crowds, carrying 10 mugs in each hand, clinking the empties up from tables and returning with foamy-headed replacements from the bar.

But if McSorley's patrons wanted brightly colored cocktails with clever names served by sterile-looking staff, they wouldn't be here.

"In New York, every place has an attitude, an edge," said Tom Gillespie, a 41-year-old financial professional from Brooklyn, as he downed two lights and two darks while reading the sports page at the bar. "This place doesn't. It's not trendy. It is what it is."

That's the way Matty Maher, McSorley's sixth proprietor, sees fit to keep it. He took his first job as a dishwasher in the bar after emigrating from Ireland in 1964, eventually serving as a bartender until he bought the place in 1977.

"When you come in here, you have a bartender serving you," Maher said, in his jovial, County Kilkenny brogue. "When you go to a lot of other bars, you have an attractive young lady. You don't see the big, burly Irishman behind the bar anymore."

Not that every McSorley's bartender is a big, burly Irishman. Several years ago, Maher's daughter, Teresa, became the first female barkeep in McSorley's — which did not even allow women to set foot inside until 1970. Teresa is the heir apparent to the place, likely ensuring it will stay under the control of only the third family since its founding.

Old John McSorely, the bar's founder who ran the place until his death at age 87 in 1910, remains a presence in the place. The motto he coined adorns a plaque that hangs above the bar: "Be good, or be gone."

Aside from the occasional college student who becomes a little too loud in the back room, most of McSorley's patrons pay heed, said Richie Buggy, a white-haired waiter who has tended to the bar's thirsty masses since 1962.

"There's no TV, there's no distractions," he said between trips from the bar to the communal tables that line the walls of the bar's two rooms. "At the tables, you're forced to sit with people you don't know, so you all have to like each other."

And largely, they all do get along, from those bellied up to the bar buying a round for neighbors they just met, to old friends who make it a point to rendezvous at the bar when they are in town for a visit.

Matt McDonough, a 52-year-old real estate developer from Massachusetts, stood at the south end of the bar next to his high school friend, 52-year-old John Chambers of the Bronx, as sunlight filtered through the window facing East Seventh Street.

McDonough said he was driving to New York for business when he heard about today's anniversary celebration and called Chambers, a bartender at Old Town Bar, another old New York haunt near Union Square, to visit the place before the crowds got too big.

"It's the feel of the place," McDonough said. "The people are nice. There's good, simple food, cheap. You always meet nice people in here."

This, to Maher, is what it is all about. McSorley's has drawn customers for 150 years because of its authenticity, its disarming charm.

There is nothing about that that needs changing, he said.

"That's what's survived of old New York, above everything else," Maher said. "A pub is a pub."

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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Being hungry is recommended. The portions are enormous.

41 posted on 02/18/2004 12:32:45 PM PST by presidio9 (FREE MARTHA)
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To: Incorrigible
I've been once. Ordered a beer and waited. After about five minutes, I got yelled at and almost kicked out for not having a beer! Barely acknowledged my explaination (I ordered one!). Granted, it was a packed and crazy night, as I imagine all of them there are. Very cool place. I wish we had somewhere like that in Pittsburgh.
42 posted on 02/18/2004 12:47:54 PM PST by Nexus
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To: Happygal
Looks like a great place.
But the Guinness in that pic, looks vile.
Ahhh okay! Pseudo-stout! ;-)

Too funny! The place is overrated (IMHO). Now McDuff's, there was a place!!!! Oh dear was that a place! Down at the South Street Seaport, tucked away in a little alley. The Guinness!!!, I could weep, they closed the place the ba$tards :( Irish and right off the boat, oh could they pour a Guinness. Vanished without a trace, if they were Chinese they would have left them alone. My very dear drinking partner and I would continue to go there after they shut it down, and stare at the chain on the door.

It's been twelve years and I still haven't gotten over it. For the most part, people should be incarcerated for what they do to a pint of Guinness around here.

dozen or so friends of mine ... working NYC?

Perhaps you could perform a great service, and recommend a place that your friends recommend for a really, REALLY good pint of Guinness.

43 posted on 02/18/2004 2:07:02 PM PST by Francisco (Pionta Guinness le do thoil.)
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To: evilC
Just say the word, evilC... We'll meet ya just about anytime at McSorley's ! ;-)

Thanks for the ping.

44 posted on 02/18/2004 3:25:43 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F'in Kerry!)
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To: brewer1516
To all: Any suggestions besides the usual tourist haunts? For what it's worth I'll be traveling with someone somewhat familiar with the city.

For wonderful, authentic Spanish food (especially the seafood paella), and incredible Sangria, try Sevilla Restaurant & Bar in the Village (Greenwich Village): 62 Charles Street (Corner 4th Street). As far as I know, they don't take reservations, so do your best to be at the door by 6pm on a weekend night (probably later on a week night).

I've lost count how many times we've had dinner there, and we've brought friends to Sevilla from Connecticut, California (SF and LA) and NYC. The food has always been consistently great and there's always a line out the door by the time we leave (on weekends, anyway).

Sevilla has a nice Old World/neighborhood feel to it... not "touristy" at all. The atmosphere is cozy and intimate, but once it fills up, can be fairly cacophonous (in a fun way). The aproned all-male waitstaff keep things moving along efficiently. Oh, and the prices are pretty reasonable, too.

45 posted on 02/18/2004 3:58:51 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F'in Kerry!)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Also, see brewer1516's post in 26. Have any suggestions?

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

46 posted on 02/18/2004 4:02:36 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F'in Kerry!)
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To: evilC; stanz; Dutchy; firebrand; StarFan; Clemenza; Cacique; Happygal; leprechaun9; sean_og
There are lots of great Irish pubs all over NYC, but the one place where we always meet a big crowd of (usually young) people actually from Ireland - whether living and working in NYC temporarily, permanently or on holiday in NYC for a few days - is "Fitzers" Bar in the Fitzpatrick Manhattan Hotel - 687 Lexington Ave., between 56th and 57th Streets. We've rarely run into an American tourist there (we've mostly been to this bar on week nights, not so much on weekends).

We were at Fitzers again last night, and had a fantastic conversation with some young Irish guys who flew over from Dublin, and are in town for a few days. The place was full of young Irish people, there for a 'happy hour' after work. I think "zelig" and I were the only two in the place without an Irish accent!

47 posted on 02/18/2004 4:20:28 PM PST by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F'in Kerry!)
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To: Francisco
Francis, mo leanbh!

There's only one thing worse than a bad pint of Guinness, and that's the uneducated hoor that pulled it!!!

I'm afraid it's been a while since I've been to NYC, and the last time I was there the best pint of porter I got was in Joyce's in Sunnyside. I'm not even sure if that place is still there!

Sorry lad...I can't help. Unless you need me to send you a the airfare home to Ireland! ;-)

BTW, 12 years in NY and still ag caint as Gaelige? Maith an bhuachaill! :-)

48 posted on 02/18/2004 4:48:27 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: nutmeg
Do you know that old Mr. Fitzpatrick, used to manage the hotel on the end of my street (The Talbot Hotel). If you run across his son over there, tell him Wexford is asking for him! :-)
49 posted on 02/18/2004 4:50:26 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: nutmeg; Cacique
For REAL Irish pubs, brougues and all, go to Bay Ridge Brooklyn or Katonah Avenue in the Bronx.
50 posted on 02/18/2004 5:00:29 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Incorrigible
Ah, memories of student drunkeness in the mid-90s at McSorley's, followed by a stumble to Kiev...
51 posted on 02/18/2004 5:01:21 PM PST by Clemenza (East side, West side, all around the town. Tripping the light fantastic on the sidewalks of New York)
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To: Happygal
There's only one thing worse than a bad pint of Guinness, and that's the uneducated hoor that pulled it!!!

The worst I've EVER seen was at a sports bar in Lansing. They poured it in a PLASTIC CUP. I almost cried.

Luckily, Moriarty's down the road there has it right. And they are the only place I know that can pour a Black and Tan perfectly as well.

52 posted on 02/18/2004 5:05:33 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: Incorrigible
December 30th, 1979 - my friend Jeff took me & 3 of my girlfriends to McSorely's

One of the more memorable nights of my life

I carved my initials in the bar, just right of center, SRE (well, they were my initials at the time). Wonder if they're still there.

Remember my girlfriend, Pam, getting a bit freaked about the coed bathroom!!

Will have to take my kids there - wow- how did I get so old!!!
53 posted on 02/18/2004 5:31:34 PM PST by KosmicKitty (There are no atheists in the foxholes!!)
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To: Remole
You should be able to find it online

http://www.beerwineonline.com/Main/BuyingBeerOnline.html

54 posted on 02/18/2004 5:54:46 PM PST by petercooper ("daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime" - Nicole Gelinas, 02-10-04)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I'm starting to cry now.

A Black and Tan?
Guinness should ONLY be consumed in it's virginal state.
Putting Smithwicks or some other ale into it is Guinness for lightweights.
Have a soda and sit in the corner ;-)

BTW..they don't call it a 'Black and Tan' because of how it looks ye know! Do you know what those Black and Tan bastids did in 1916! And ye call yerself an Irishman! *LOL* ;-)
55 posted on 02/18/2004 5:57:08 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: Happygal
Guinness should ONLY be consumed in it's virginal state.

Don't cry. That's how I normally drink it 99% of the time. BTW - There's a reason why the Irish rises to the top of a Black and Tan. :)

Do you know what those Black and Tan bastids did in 1916!

I can't believe I didn't make that connection, and I'm a history buff.(Good thing I'm back in school...and taking an Irish History class)

And ye call yerself an Irishman! *LOL* ;-)

My lapse must have come from the Spanish blood from the Armada...:)

56 posted on 02/18/2004 6:39:56 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("You know it don't come easy, the road of the gypsy" - Iron Eagle)
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To: nutmeg
Shoot, I don't really drink much Guinness... It ain't that easy to do after a 5 mile run. I'll take a Bud, thank you.

But if I haven't run that day... I'd say Dublin House on 79th and Broadway. (Though it was a touch too bitter last week)

The Kinsale Tavern on 3rd Ave. between 93rd and 94th is the closest place to my house with a decent pint.

The closest place to McSorleys is the Scratcher, 5th st between Bowery and 2nd Ave. (They don't have a spirits license, just beer and wine)

You can get a decent pint of Guinness in any number of places in this town, it just takes trial and error. With my lifestyle, I've made a lot of errors.
57 posted on 02/18/2004 9:04:55 PM PST by Oschisms
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To: Oschisms
BTW, never been to McSorleys. Don't care. Plenty of other places.
58 posted on 02/18/2004 9:06:34 PM PST by Oschisms
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To: Oschisms
~holds Oschims down in a head lock~

TAKE IT BACK!!!!!! DAMNIT

There is no way that a urine sample (Budweiser) compares to a (three course meal) Guinness.
59 posted on 02/18/2004 9:09:46 PM PST by Happygal (Le gách dea ghuí)
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To: Happygal
hee hee

A most enjoyable headlock.

Since I've been a runner, I drink watery beer. And Bud is good for what it is, which is watery beer.

A 3 course meal after a 5 mile run? Not me. Someone else.
60 posted on 02/18/2004 9:13:13 PM PST by Oschisms
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