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Rebel flag continues to divide our nation
sptimes ^ | February 17, 2004 | ernest hooper

Posted on 02/17/2004 5:44:59 AM PST by stainlessbanner

As a child growing up in an all-black Tallahassee neighborhood, the sight of a truck rumbling up my street with a Confederate battle flag in the window made me and my friends shudder in fear.

Maybe the pickup had a reason for passing through, but the combination of the Southern cross and a gun rack always was seen as a harbinger of violence. Usually, I ran in the house.

Some 30 years later I shudder because people are still holding on to this symbol of racism. Controversy about the flag has arisen at Tarpon Springs High and Hudson High. Integration and other significant steps in racial progress have not deterred people from passing along a remarkable sign of hatred to another generation.

When people argue that the fight over the flag creates healthy dialogue, I think back to when I was given that opportunity. My boys were 5 and 7 when we went to dinner at Buddy Freddy's, on a day when a Confederate organization was meeting in the restaurant's banquet room. Ethan saw the flag in the other room and exclaimed, "Look at that cool flag."

For the rest of the dinner, I had to explain why the flag wasn't cool. Young minds, more accustomed to learning about phonics, soaked in lessons about slavery, freedom and a time when Americans killed Americans.

By meal's end, the restaurant's hostess had given the boys toys from the gift shop. I think she wanted to reward them for listening patiently as their father struggled to explain the inexplicable.

Of course, the flag represents more than just the South's struggle against the North, and some long-rooted Southerners identify with it in a way that transcends race. But, for decades, it was used by the Ku Klux Klan as a banner for segregation and persecution. And white supremacists still embrace it today.

When will I believe that this flag is about heritage and not hate? When I see people from Confederate organizations seriously confront racists who use the flag to espouse bigotry.

Those who wish to take pride in the South should find a less divisive icon. Hasn't our region evolved beyond the infighting and intolerance that the flag symbolizes? Why define the South by a dead Confederacy when we have Kitty Hawk and Bourbon Street and Memphis barbecue and Basin Street jazz and collard greens and Coca-Cola? If you want to show pride in the South, paint a plate of grits on a T-shirt and wear it to school.

Even SEC football and NASCAR, institutions once rooted in segregation, have made significant strides toward diversity. It's the progress of our present, not the failures of our past, that should be championed.

And for all the talk about fighting for liberty and American's second revolution, the Civil War was a failure. A rare and total loss of the humanity we have typically shared as a nation.

Consider the horrific Gettysburg battles that resulted in 50,000 casualties. Fields were strewn with dead soldiers, and the air held the screams of Americans whose limbs had been amputated. Maybe if the battle flag brought to mind those images, someone wouldn't have raised it over Hudson High.

Even if I could look beyond the racist overtones of the flag (and I can't), the rebel cross of stars would still represent American history's most divisive period. A different outcome could have brought dire consequences not only for this country, but for the entire world. Could the Allies have won World War II dependent on two separate nations instead of one United States?

History has proven there is strength in our unity, and now, more than ever in this post-9/11 world, any symbol that threatens that unity should be voluntarily abandoned.

It's been said that those who oppose the war in Iraq lend comfort to our enemies. Yet true comfort for the terrorists must come when they see a new generation of Americans divided over a 141-year-old symbol that should have been buried at Appomattox.

No, the Confederate flag should not be banned in schools. I would never deny a person's right to freedom of speech. But for those who feel compelled to wear it to school, I ask only one thing: Think about what you're doing.

That's all I'm saying.

- Ernest Hooper can be reached at 813 226-3406 or Hooper@sptimes.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dixie; dixielist; heritage; history; pcagenda; south
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Ernest Hooper, Tampa columnist can be reached at 813 226-3406 or Hooper@sptimes.com
1 posted on 02/17/2004 5:45:00 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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2 posted on 02/17/2004 5:45:54 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Liberals are intolerant of any one who doesn't agree with them 100% - and not just over a flag.
3 posted on 02/17/2004 5:46:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: stainlessbanner
No, the Confederate flag should not be banned in schools. I would never deny a person's right to freedom of speech. But for those who feel compelled to wear it to school, I ask only one thing: Think about what you're doing.

How do you feel about Malcom X caps? Gangsta Rap artist jackets? Che Guevara shirts?

4 posted on 02/17/2004 5:48:17 AM PST by 2banana
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To: stainlessbanner
"Some 30 years later I shudder because people are still holding on to this symbol of racism."

Yet another intellectual fraud who spouts the revisionist drivel.

Teach your children well ...... home school them.

5 posted on 02/17/2004 5:49:46 AM PST by G.Mason (The trouble with practical jokes is that very often they get elected -- Will Rogers)
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To: stainlessbanner
You really have to have way too much free time to worry about or be offended by the Confederate flag. To those who are offended by it, I say, just quit it.
6 posted on 02/17/2004 5:49:55 AM PST by zook
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To: stainlessbanner
Flags of any sort are the least of our problems. Symbols mean differnt things to different people. If symbols could hurt you it would be an even more dangerous world.

I own no Confederate flags but I can't for the life of me figure out why this one symbol gets picked out to be such a big deal.

Let's concentrate on real problems such as parenting before we worry about symbols.

CG
7 posted on 02/17/2004 5:50:03 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Ronald Reagan is the most influential public figure in my life. George W. Bush, take notes.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Its a piece of cloth ernie get over it.
8 posted on 02/17/2004 5:50:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (you win wars by making the other dumb SOB die for his country)
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To: stainlessbanner
When will I believe that this flag is about heritage and not hate? When I see people from Confederate organizations seriously confront racists who use the flag to espouse bigotry.

So I should not wear my cross until racist stop using it to espouse bigotry? Silly fellow.

9 posted on 02/17/2004 5:51:37 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: stainlessbanner
When people argue that the fight over the flag creates healthy dialogue, I think back to when I was given that opportunity. My boys were 5 and 7 when we went to dinner at Buddy Freddy's, on a day when a Confederate organization was meeting in the restaurant's banquet room. Ethan saw the flag in the other room and exclaimed, "Look at that cool flag."

For the rest of the dinner, I had to explain why the flag wasn't cool. Young minds, more accustomed to learning about phonics, soaked in lessons about slavery, freedom and a time when Americans killed Americans.

As he filled them with more revisionist history no doubt

10 posted on 02/17/2004 5:54:14 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: stainlessbanner
"If you want to show pride in the South, paint a plate of grits on a T-shirt and wear it to school."

Mr Hooper may wear his food well, but mine's not that becoming on me....

11 posted on 02/17/2004 5:55:56 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: stainlessbanner
... a 141-year-old symbol that should have been buried at Appomattox...

What a ridiculous statement!

12 posted on 02/17/2004 5:58:54 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Good Point! I guess we know what is next now.
13 posted on 02/17/2004 6:00:42 AM PST by dmcnash (The metaphor is the metaphor)
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To: stainlessbanner
"But, for decades, it was used by the Ku Klux Klan as a banner for segregation and persecution"


14 posted on 02/17/2004 6:01:38 AM PST by Rebelbase (The gravy train makes unscheduled stops.)
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To: azhenfud
Grits? And he is worried about the flag being a symbol of bigotry? How about this, grits a symbol of stereotyping , sorta like watermelon?
15 posted on 02/17/2004 6:03:25 AM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: stainlessbanner; azhenfud
But, for decades, it was used by the Ku Klux Klan as a banner for segregation and persecution. And white supremacists still embrace it today.


Early KKK poster.

Check the sign out.


Old songbook.


1960's in Birmingham, Alabama

More photos here


16 posted on 02/17/2004 6:04:22 AM PST by Constitution Day (Bughters didnurce!)
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To: Rebelbase
Excellent. See my post #16 as well.
17 posted on 02/17/2004 6:06:14 AM PST by Constitution Day (Bughters didnurce!)
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To: Rebelbase
Oh but of course. See the American flag, in our wonderful new day of multiculturulism, might offend someone. If we are going to display it, then we need to come up with a flag for everyone blah blah blah.
18 posted on 02/17/2004 6:06:53 AM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: Constitution Day
Careful. We don't want to give them any ideas, do we?
19 posted on 02/17/2004 6:08:13 AM PST by beckysueb (Lady Liberty is in danger! Bush/Cheney 04.)
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To: Constitution Day
Great link.

Here's a couple more:

Is that a Canadian flag in the center?

and


20 posted on 02/17/2004 6:12:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (The gravy train makes unscheduled stops.)
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