Roger Simon of U.S. News: "Nobody Died When Bill Clinton Lied"

MRC ^ | 11:20am EST, Monday February 16, 2004 | BrentBaker

[fight_truth_decay]

On Sunday's Face the Nation, at the start of a segment on President Bush's National Guard duty, CBS's Bob Schieffer said he was "surprised, frankly," that the Guard story "has gone on as long as it has." As if he had no control over the subject matters addressed on his own show.

But neither Schieffer, nor his guests on the topic, Time's Karen Tumulty and Boston Globe reporter Walter Robinson, went so far as Meet the Press panelist Roger Simon of U.S. News who remarked that, as opposed to Bush taking the nation to war, "nobody died when Bill Clinton lied."

Simon was responding to host Tim Russert who had pointed out how the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll found Bush is seen as "honest and trustworthy" by just 52 percent and on weapons of mass destruction, asked "Did the President exaggerate the evidence?", 54 percent responded yes, 42 percent no. Russert asked: "How much of an issue is this credibility, as Time magazine called 'a potential gap,' going to play in the 2004 race?"

Simon replied: "I think it's going to be huge. We've had Presidents who have lied to the American people. Our last President lied on a number of occasions to the American people, but nobody died when Bill Clinton lied. If, as these polls reflect, a majority of the American people think the President either lied or exaggerated about the weapons of mass destruction and sent young men and women off to war to fight and to die based on those lies and exaggerations, they're likely to be a little unforgiving, I think, in November."

Maybe, but the Washington Post/ABC News poll didn't show that. Even of those who believed Bush "exaggerated" the evidence, only a minority, 39 percent, think he lied. And when asked, "Regardless of whether or not it exaggerated the evidence, do you think the George W. Bush administration honestly believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, or not?," 68 percent said "honestly believed" compared to just 27 percent who answered "did not honestly believe."

For the Washington Post's rundown of this poll released on Thursday: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac3/ContentServer?pagename=polls&nex tstep=chooseQuestion&interactive=n&searchPollId=2004041&pollType=M aryland&questCategoryType=n&newsearch=&questCategory=&keyword=&pol lDateRange=&startingRow=1

[mystery-ak]

Yeah, nobody died....just several thousand US citizens.

[MEG33]

Simon was so flagrantly biased.

[buffyt]

EXCELLENT POINT, KASLIN!

[Toespi]

Has anyone noticed the "Editor's Letter" section of Vanity Fair this month? Instead of letters, Vanity Fair chose to list the names, ages and hometowns of 502 American soldiers who have died in Iraq. It is titled, "SYMPHONY for the DEAD." It reads, " The invasion of Iraq was launched a year ago this March. On these pages are the names, ages and hometowns of the 502 American men and women in uniform who, as of January 21, 2004, had lost their lives in the war and it's bloody aftermath. This list of the war dead has been compiled with the help of U.S. military sources and Army Times." I wrote them and suggested that to trully honor these heros, they should list all of the Israels slaughtered by suicide bombers, all of the Iraqi people murdered by Hussein's tyranny, the numerous victims of the Taliban and then I suggested that if they had any pages left to fill, they could get a list of the 3200+ murdered on our own shores on September 11th, 2004.

[John Lenin]

1989

The Committee of Ten Thousand -- named for the estimated 10,000 Americans infected with HIV by the blood industry -- is formed. Writing in POZ seven years later, COTT's president Corey Dubin says, "For years the manufacturers of blood products and the regulators at the FDA persuaded the hemophilia community as well as the general public that their infections were a 'tragic yet unavoidable mistake.' We now know that this is absolutely not the case and that doing business as usual from 1982 to 1985 consigned thousands of people with hemophilia to the ravages of AIDS. ~~~ Internal drug company memos demonstrate that officials understood the impact that blood tainted by this pathogen could have on people with hemophilia as early as mid-1982, but they failed to warn either our doctors or us. The industry was also targeting for plasma collection groups with a high incidence of hepatitis B -- gay men and prisoners -- that the CDC had by then identified as likely to have AIDS."

MAY 1993

Two separate tainted blood probes -- one by a California investigator and another by the Canadian government -- lead to the door of the Arkansas governor's office, now occupied by Jim Guy Tucker. Both are informed that all the governor's papers were removed when he left office and that they should contact the White House legal counsel's office. What happens next is not known but presumably they make contact with Vince Foster, the man in the legal counsel's office who knew Arkansas and who had been involved in the prison system and who may, at one point, have represented HMA.

[sweetliberty]

"nobody died when Bill Clinton lied"

Oh really?

Clinton Body Count (and there has been at least 1 more recenly)

[Grit]

That cannot be a real quote!?!?

[sweetliberty]

[Criminal Number 18F]

Roger Simon of U.S. News: "Nobody Died When Bill Clinton Lied"

Well. these people died when Bill Clinton fiddled... or was that "diddled?" Because he was not serious about his duties. Because he didn't think enemies were worth pursuing, unless it might lead to a bump in the polls or forestall one of the endless investigations of his Administration's pervasive small-time criminality. Because he considered dollars spent on continental defence to be dollars wasted.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Steven W.]

Funny, you'd think these PETA crazed liberals would

REMEMBER BULLSEYE

For those who don't recall, Bullseye was the name of Kathleen Willey's cat who was killed by the thugs hired by Clinton's "detectives" to threaten and intimidate witnesses.

[Steven W.]

not only did soldiers die as a result of Hanoi John's illicit activities, but to hear Lawrence O'Donnel and other libs supporting Hanoi John of late you'd never know that millions of people were murdered by the communist regimes of east asia as the dominoes did indeed fall as predicted pre-Vietnam. Of course those poor souls don't qualify as "people" in the eyes of commie-sympathizing liberals.

[Morgan in Denver]

Saying the left wing, specifically Democrats, says something does not make it true, as you already know. So, it's like preaching to the choir.

It is still upsetting that the press will ignore facts and past lies coming from various Democrats. If ignorance is bliss, the Democrat party must be in hog-heaven today.

[sweetliberty]

Anything to add?

[Gargantua]

"Unless you want to count those poor shleps working in the aspirin factory."

Might we add Ron Brown and Vince Foster to that list?

I think we can...

[FlatLandBeer]

NO ONE WAS LIBERATED EITHER!!!!

[tomball]

Bravo. Somebody else noticed. As a subscriber, for the past few years every month the editor (Graydon Carter) gets up on a soap box and goes on an anti-Bush diatribe. He has been making biased political statements EVERY MONTH since Bush was elected to office. The editor's "Editor's Letters" read like the rantings of a political wannabe stumping for the left.

A whole lot of people who subscribe to magazines like this usually go to the article they are interested in or the table of contents, and seldom notice the small typed propaganda contents of Editor's Letters.

[Dead Dog]

Yugoslavia. No Muslims were hurt or injured while Clinton taught our children the meaning of "Oral Sex".

[Mo1]

Anything to add?

Yea .. ths idiot is a jacka$$ and he just proved it on national TV

[OPS4]

Ask Ron Brown. And then ask which of the hundreds of lies of Bill Clinton cost lives. Do not get us started, they may find the WMD blueprints sold from china to other nations may have been part of the intel Clinton let Loral Corp. have, after Loral gave him money and he signed the technology waivers.

Or the list of dead that were linked in Mena and Whitewater.

Or how about the people killed in the pill factory Billy and Clark blew up supposedly going after Bin Laden.

Or the Hundreds of people killed in Yugoslavia in the defense of Kosovo Muslim dope dealers.

Al pre-911 when we were not fighting a war on terror, but Billies cover-ups that cost lives.

Ops4 God BLess America!

[sweetliberty]

LOL!