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Homosexuality and Hate Speech: Defending Moral Principles Is Getting Riskier
Zenit ^ | Feb. 14, 2004

Posted on 02/15/2004 2:49:05 PM PST by Unam Sanctam

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To: Jeff Gordon
This law is surely two edged. The liberals must be making derogatory statements about Christians that should get them arrested.
21 posted on 02/15/2004 4:38:40 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: NYer
" distributing the Vatican guidelines on same-sex unions could bring prosecution. "

The Irish have suffered many persecutions where the laws were designed to attack their faith.
22 posted on 02/15/2004 4:54:06 PM PST by rogator
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To: Unam Sanctam
Jews are perfectly free to avoid shellfish and speak out against their being eaten by Jews.

That makes perfect sense. Restrict the application of Jewish laws and morality to jews. Likewise it makes perfect sense to restrict the application of Christain laws and morality to Christians. If more Christian were like you and restricted their moral outrage to Christians, defending moral principles would be far less dangerous.

23 posted on 02/15/2004 4:57:37 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: aimhigh
The liberals must be making derogatory statements about Christians that should get them arrested.

Why restrict the punishment of such statements to liberals? Why not arrest conservatives who make derogatory statements about Christians. Surely you do not mean to claim that one must be Christian to be conservative.

24 posted on 02/15/2004 5:00:54 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I am not sure what you are referring to as not being correct. The exact King James version is:

10] And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

[11] They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

[12] Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

26 posted on 02/15/2004 5:20:01 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Jeff Gordon
Traditional Christian believers have a right to hold and state their views on sexual morality, just as those who advocate promiscuity and homosexual activity have such a right. The State, however, has no right to impose liberal religious views on sexual morality on the rest of society, as they are with the pro-homosexual activity propaganda taking place in public schools and in the government legitimation of homosexual activity that is behind government recognition of so-called "same sex marriage".
27 posted on 02/15/2004 5:30:52 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Christians defending moral teachings on homosexuality are increasingly running foul of laws that banM any negative statements about the subject.

It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once. [David Hume] There was once another people who thought they were free.

28 posted on 02/15/2004 6:00:58 PM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: Unam Sanctam
The State, however, has no right to impose liberal religious views on sexual morality on the rest of society,

Does the state have a right to impose conservative religious views on sexual morality on the rest of society?

29 posted on 02/15/2004 6:27:22 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Jeff Gordon
The state is not imposing conservative religious views on the rest of society, at least in the United States.
30 posted on 02/15/2004 6:34:43 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
The state is not imposing conservative religious views on the rest of society, at least in the United States.

You forgot to include a smiley face or a </sarcasm tag.

31 posted on 02/15/2004 6:40:15 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Jeff Gordon
It was not sarcasm. Please point out where the state is currently imposing conservative religious views on the rest of society.
32 posted on 02/15/2004 6:42:00 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
The banning of stem cell research.
33 posted on 02/15/2004 6:47:22 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Unam Sanctam
Bump.
34 posted on 02/15/2004 7:46:55 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: goldstategop
The heterophobes are insecure about their identity.

Exactly.

Deep down inside I believe most of them know there is something seriously wrong with homosexuality and that no matter how much they try to normalize it, there will always be a foreboding about the future and ultimately coming to terms with the truth...
Which is why they are so intolerant of anybody who believes homosexuality is wrong and need to silence them.

35 posted on 02/15/2004 7:57:17 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jeff Gordon
The banning of stem cell research.

You don't have to be religious at all in order to believe it's morally wrong.

36 posted on 02/15/2004 8:21:02 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: Jeff Gordon
The use of human stem cells from embryos bred for the purpose of experimentation is an issue that requires a moral judgment. It has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with the protection of human life.
37 posted on 02/15/2004 8:43:53 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Bishop Peter Forster of Chester told a local paper: "Some people who are primarily homosexual can reorientate themselves. I would encourage them to consider that as an option, but I would not set myself up as a medical specialist on the subject -- that's in the area of psychiatric health."

Them's fighting words!!!!

</ end sarcasm >

38 posted on 02/15/2004 9:09:04 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Lucky Dog
What group that claims to not suffer from mental disease but is 24 times more likely to die from suicide on an individual basis than any other member of the population chosen at random?

The gays have a pat answer for this - it's all the homophobia that cause these poor souls to lack self-esteem. It's all the bullying at schools that cause the young gay teenager to end it all by suicide.

In other words, suicide of gays is all our fault.

39 posted on 02/15/2004 9:17:07 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: JoJo Gunn; Unam Sanctam; NYer; saradippity; american colleen
"the story of Sodom and Gomorrah."

Ditto the NEA! But don't forget the NCEA!
The NCEA cries out to be renovated, fire the whole lot and replace them with teachers who often go to daily Mass and actually believe the Doctrines of the Faith that they are suppose to be teaching!
No wonder aprox 25% of the USA population (Catholics) will vote for a CINO and may tell you that it was not the wrath of God which destroyed those decadent places. No, they will say that it was just a natural disaster or that there was a lack of hospitality.

If you destroy the faith of the people then the nation will destroyed by the Godless people.

"Liberalism is a Sin"....TAN Books and Publishers.
40 posted on 02/15/2004 9:42:59 PM PST by Phx_RC (A symbol of cultural decadence: Boston Redevelopment Authority- BRA- no one has yet noticed???)
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