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Homosexuality and Hate Speech: Defending Moral Principles Is Getting Riskier
Zenit ^ | Feb. 14, 2004

Posted on 02/15/2004 2:49:05 PM PST by Unam Sanctam

Christians defending moral teachings on homosexuality are increasingly running foul of laws that ban any negative statements about the subject. A British Anglican bishop, for instance, who suggested that homosexuals seek psychological counseling was the target of a police investigation, the Telegraph newspaper reported Nov. 10.

Bishop Peter Forster of Chester told a local paper: "Some people who are primarily homosexual can reorientate themselves. I would encourage them to consider that as an option, but I would not set myself up as a medical specialist on the subject -- that's in the area of psychiatric health."

Police investigated the statements and a spokesman said a copy of the article would be sent to the Crown Prosecution Service. Subsequently, the police dropped the case, the Independent newspaper reported Nov. 11.

The matter raised fears about restrictions on defending Christian morality, the British-based Christian Institute explained in its January newsletter. It added that the bishop's position was backed up by a lot of academic research. Even a longtime supporter of homosexual rights, Columbia University professor Robert Spitzer, recently published a study finding that homosexuals could become predominantly heterosexual through psychotherapy, the newsletter observed.

Debate also flared last year in the United Kingdom over whether churches should be allowed to refuse employment to homosexuals. The government finally agreed to add a clause to anti-discrimination legislation giving religious organizations the right to exclude a person on the grounds of sexual orientation, the Sunday Times reported June 1. Still, the Christian Institute warned in its January newsletter that employers must be prepared to argue their case in court.

In Ireland, meanwhile, the Irish Council for Civil Liberties warned the Catholic Church that distributing the Vatican guidelines on same-sex unions could bring prosecution. The document published last July by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith falls foul of the Incitement to Hatred Act, according to sources quoted in the Irish Times on Aug. 2.

"The document itself may not violate the act, but if you were to use the document to say that gays are evil, it is likely to give rise to hatred, which is against the act," said Aisling Reidy, director of the civil-liberties council. Those convicted under the act could face six-month jail terms. Of the Vatican document Reidy said: "The wording is very strong and certainly goes against the spirit of the legislation."

The limits of diversity

On the other side of the Atlantic, December saw a victory for Christians. In Michigan, U.S. District Judge Gerald Rosen upheld the right of a Christian student to express her religious beliefs in opposing homosexuality, reported a Dec. 5 press release by the Thomas More Law Center.

The law center had filed a federal lawsuit on behalf of Betsy Hansen as a result of a dispute over the 2002 Diversity Week program held at the Ann Arbor Pioneer High School. School authorities censored the speech to be given by Hansen, a Catholic, as part of the activities of the "Homosexuality and Religion" panel. Officials claimed that her religious view toward homosexuality was a "negative" message and would "water down" the "positive" religious message that they wanted to convey -- that homosexual behavior is not immoral or sinful.

School officials also only allowed clergy who espoused a pro-homosexual position to take part in the panel, denying Hansen's request to have a panel member who would express the Catholic position on homosexuality.

"This case presents the ironic, and unfortunate, paradox of a public high school celebrating 'diversity' by refusing to permit the presentation to students of an 'unwelcomed' viewpoint on the topic of homosexuality and religion, while actively promoting the competing view," observed Judge Rosen in his decision.

Another case, still to be finalized, involves a Colorado mother who left a lesbian relationship after converting to Christianity in 2000. Cheryl Clark is appealing a ruling by Denver County Circuit Judge John Coughlin to "make sure that there is nothing in the religious upbringing or teaching that the minor child is exposed to that can be considered homophobic," the Washington Times reported Nov. 5.

Her former partner, Elsey McLeod, was awarded joint custody of the child, an 8-year-old girl.

Matthew Staver, president of Liberty Counsel, a public-interest law firm based in Orlando, Florida, has filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the case. He commented that the judge gave no similar orders to McLeod regarding remarks or teaching about Christianity or Christians. "It's a real one-way street on this," Staver said.

Vancouver bishop targeted

Controversy regarding criticism of homosexuals has been increasingly common in Canada. A recent case involves the Archdiocese of Vancouver. The Vancouver Sun reported Sept. 24 that the archdiocese canceled a long-standing partnership with VanCity Credit Union, owing to the fact that the institution actively supports the local gay and lesbian community.

The turning point for Archbishop Adam Exner was an ad campaign by the credit union, featuring a homosexual couple. Consequently the archbishop put an end to a VanCity program operating in four Catholic schools. Under the program, students learned out to save and invest their money and opened savings accounts with the credit union.

A document posted on the archdiocese Web site explained the reasons for the decision. "VanCity in its advertising and by its sponsorship has publicly manifested its support for agendas which are worrisome and harmful to the Church and to society," said the statement signed by Archbishop Exner. "Any cooperation with an organization that publicly supports such agendas appears unacceptable."

The decision drew strong criticism, as Archbishop Exner noted in a letter published Oct. 1 by the Vancouver Sun. When news of the move became public, it "opened the floodgates to letters, e-mails, phone calls and faxes, alleging everything from bigotry to fascism," he said. "I found myself accused of teaching intolerance and hatred of homosexuals -- something contrary to Catholic teaching and my own convictions."

Not-so-free speech

David Bernstein, professor at George Mason University School of Law, addressed the topic of how antidiscrimination laws are creating problems for free speech in his recent book, "You Can't Say That!" Fear of litigation, he observed, "is having a profound chilling effect on the exercise of civil liberties in workplaces, universities, membership organizations, and churches."

Bernstein related how one U.S. Catholic university was beaten down by legal actions into giving full recognition to student homosexual groups. And citing several recent legal cases in Canada, he commented: "Indeed, it has apparently become illegal in Canada to advocate traditional Christian opposition to homosexual sex."

On the question of how homosexuals are to be treated, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is careful to point out: "They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided" (No. 2358).

Nevertheless, the Catechism is no less clear when it deals with the morality of homosexual acts: "They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved" (No. 2357). Defending this teaching, in a charitable way, is no easy task. And in the current legal climate, it could get a lot harder.


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To: Jeff Gordon
This law is surely two edged. The liberals must be making derogatory statements about Christians that should get them arrested.
21 posted on 02/15/2004 4:38:40 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: NYer
" distributing the Vatican guidelines on same-sex unions could bring prosecution. "

The Irish have suffered many persecutions where the laws were designed to attack their faith.
22 posted on 02/15/2004 4:54:06 PM PST by rogator
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To: Unam Sanctam
Jews are perfectly free to avoid shellfish and speak out against their being eaten by Jews.

That makes perfect sense. Restrict the application of Jewish laws and morality to jews. Likewise it makes perfect sense to restrict the application of Christain laws and morality to Christians. If more Christian were like you and restricted their moral outrage to Christians, defending moral principles would be far less dangerous.

23 posted on 02/15/2004 4:57:37 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: aimhigh
The liberals must be making derogatory statements about Christians that should get them arrested.

Why restrict the punishment of such statements to liberals? Why not arrest conservatives who make derogatory statements about Christians. Surely you do not mean to claim that one must be Christian to be conservative.

24 posted on 02/15/2004 5:00:54 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
I am not sure what you are referring to as not being correct. The exact King James version is:

10] And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

[11] They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

[12] Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

26 posted on 02/15/2004 5:20:01 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Jeff Gordon
Traditional Christian believers have a right to hold and state their views on sexual morality, just as those who advocate promiscuity and homosexual activity have such a right. The State, however, has no right to impose liberal religious views on sexual morality on the rest of society, as they are with the pro-homosexual activity propaganda taking place in public schools and in the government legitimation of homosexual activity that is behind government recognition of so-called "same sex marriage".
27 posted on 02/15/2004 5:30:52 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Christians defending moral teachings on homosexuality are increasingly running foul of laws that banM any negative statements about the subject.

It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once. [David Hume] There was once another people who thought they were free.

28 posted on 02/15/2004 6:00:58 PM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: Unam Sanctam
The State, however, has no right to impose liberal religious views on sexual morality on the rest of society,

Does the state have a right to impose conservative religious views on sexual morality on the rest of society?

29 posted on 02/15/2004 6:27:22 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Jeff Gordon
The state is not imposing conservative religious views on the rest of society, at least in the United States.
30 posted on 02/15/2004 6:34:43 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
The state is not imposing conservative religious views on the rest of society, at least in the United States.

You forgot to include a smiley face or a </sarcasm tag.

31 posted on 02/15/2004 6:40:15 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Jeff Gordon
It was not sarcasm. Please point out where the state is currently imposing conservative religious views on the rest of society.
32 posted on 02/15/2004 6:42:00 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
The banning of stem cell research.
33 posted on 02/15/2004 6:47:22 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Unam Sanctam
Bump.
34 posted on 02/15/2004 7:46:55 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: goldstategop
The heterophobes are insecure about their identity.

Exactly.

Deep down inside I believe most of them know there is something seriously wrong with homosexuality and that no matter how much they try to normalize it, there will always be a foreboding about the future and ultimately coming to terms with the truth...
Which is why they are so intolerant of anybody who believes homosexuality is wrong and need to silence them.

35 posted on 02/15/2004 7:57:17 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jeff Gordon
The banning of stem cell research.

You don't have to be religious at all in order to believe it's morally wrong.

36 posted on 02/15/2004 8:21:02 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: Jeff Gordon
The use of human stem cells from embryos bred for the purpose of experimentation is an issue that requires a moral judgment. It has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with the protection of human life.
37 posted on 02/15/2004 8:43:53 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Bishop Peter Forster of Chester told a local paper: "Some people who are primarily homosexual can reorientate themselves. I would encourage them to consider that as an option, but I would not set myself up as a medical specialist on the subject -- that's in the area of psychiatric health."

Them's fighting words!!!!

</ end sarcasm >

38 posted on 02/15/2004 9:09:04 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: Lucky Dog
What group that claims to not suffer from mental disease but is 24 times more likely to die from suicide on an individual basis than any other member of the population chosen at random?

The gays have a pat answer for this - it's all the homophobia that cause these poor souls to lack self-esteem. It's all the bullying at schools that cause the young gay teenager to end it all by suicide.

In other words, suicide of gays is all our fault.

39 posted on 02/15/2004 9:17:07 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: JoJo Gunn; Unam Sanctam; NYer; saradippity; american colleen
"the story of Sodom and Gomorrah."

Ditto the NEA! But don't forget the NCEA!
The NCEA cries out to be renovated, fire the whole lot and replace them with teachers who often go to daily Mass and actually believe the Doctrines of the Faith that they are suppose to be teaching!
No wonder aprox 25% of the USA population (Catholics) will vote for a CINO and may tell you that it was not the wrath of God which destroyed those decadent places. No, they will say that it was just a natural disaster or that there was a lack of hospitality.

If you destroy the faith of the people then the nation will destroyed by the Godless people.

"Liberalism is a Sin"....TAN Books and Publishers.
40 posted on 02/15/2004 9:42:59 PM PST by Phx_RC (A symbol of cultural decadence: Boston Redevelopment Authority- BRA- no one has yet noticed???)
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