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India Call Centre Staff Bribed
Evening Standard ^ | 2/10/04 | Pete Warren

Posted on 02/13/2004 9:43:53 AM PST by Samizdat

'India call centre staff bribed' Pete Warren, Evening Standard 10 February 2004

STAFF at call centres in India are being bribed by organised crime and industrial spies to them help hack into the computer systems of British firms.

In at least two recent cases, local IT staff working on the sub-continent for UK institutions were involved in what industry sources say were 'security issues' in what is described as the tiniest fraction of a far larger problem.

In one case, sensitive financial information and credit card details were apparently illegally taken from a leading British financial institution.

A spokesman for the National Outsourcing Association (NOA) in Britain said: 'This shows that there are some things that you really should not send overseas. For organised criminals, this is a godsend.

'If you are using people in a low wage area, organised crime can afford to pay a lifetime's wages for data.'

Richard Hollis, managing director of Orthus, an information security solutions company in London, claims the problem is growing because Indian staff have access to increasingly sensitive customer information.

He said: 'We're seeing a significant increase in security problems associated with this type of outsourcing. Given that the majority of hacking originates from within organisations, outsourcing administrative responsibilities to an engineer making around £4,000 annually is asking for problems.

'The engineers employed by these firms are extremely skilled technicians and since they already possess the passwords and unrestricted access to the networks they service, they have quickly become targets for organised crime and private investigative firms looking to buy their way into a network.'

The revelations came after Trade Secretary Patricia Hewitt chaired a meeting last Monday to discuss the growing trend for call centres and other outsourced tasks to be switched from Britain to India.

Several British firms including Aviva, BT, ebookers, HSBC and Tesco have unveiled plans to relocate, or already created call centres in India.

Academics and industry experts believe this exodus could represent just the tip of the iceberg as other service industries look set to follow.

Manchester Business School's Professor Peter Barrah, author of the International Handbook on Outsourcing, said: 'It's a trend that is limited only by your imagination. There are some services that have to be delivered here and now; for anything that is produced with, or uses, a computer there is the potential for offshore outsourcing.

'There are companies that have now outsourced their strategy, the development of their marketing campaigns and their new product development.'

The DTI is currently commissioning research that it hopes will give a clearer picture of the true trend of job migration.

In the UK, there are about 400,000 people involved in the call-centre industry in about 5,500 call centres.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: computersecurity; freetraitors; outsourcing; outsourcingoffshore
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1 posted on 02/13/2004 9:43:53 AM PST by Samizdat
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To: Samizdat
My 90 year old disabled Army Officer dad (2 purple hearts and a bronze star) had $33,000 wired out of his bank account to India.

The India outsourcing will ultimately make the Nigerian scams look like child's play.

2 posted on 02/13/2004 9:47:51 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: Samizdat
Take that you genius executives who are sending your IT jobs overseas.
3 posted on 02/13/2004 9:47:58 AM PST by TSgt (I am proudly featured on U.S. Rep Rob Portman's homepage: http://www.house.gov/portman/)
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To: Samizdat
Wow, this is a big surprise...
/sarcasm
4 posted on 02/13/2004 9:48:26 AM PST by ECM
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To: FormerACLUmember
What was the result of this? Did the bank give him his money back?
5 posted on 02/13/2004 9:50:35 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: FormerACLUmember
Was it a wire or an ACH transfer? Do you know how this guy got your dad's account info?
6 posted on 02/13/2004 9:51:23 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Samizdat
Aaaaaah, the benefits of sending jobs overseas. How nice.
7 posted on 02/13/2004 9:52:56 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Samizdat
STAFF at call centres in India are being bribed by organised crime and industrial spies to them help hack into the computer systems of British firms.

Surprise, surprise. One thing that outsourcing does not encourage is employee loyalty.

8 posted on 02/13/2004 9:53:29 AM PST by independentmind
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To: FormerACLUmember
OMG! How awful. I wonder if the FDIC reimburses victims in cases like this.
9 posted on 02/13/2004 9:53:52 AM PST by octobersky
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To: Lazamataz; harpseal; Travis McGee; Nick Danger; section9; Dominic Harr; Bush2000
"Richard Hollis, managing director of Orthus, an information security solutions company in London, claims the problem is growing because Indian staff have access to increasingly sensitive customer information."

No, that's only the half of it. The problem is *growing* because of India's annual 60+% turnover problem in their staff. When you are replacing staff at that rate, your firm can *only* have a temporary employee mentality rather than a long-term "part of us" viewpoint.

10 Points to whomever correctly identifies which group, temps or happy long-termers, is *more* easily bribed.

10 posted on 02/13/2004 9:54:14 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Samizdat
Hmm, I wonder how much to wipe clean and propup my credit scores?
11 posted on 02/13/2004 9:54:31 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: Southack
oooh oooh oooh I know! Temps!
12 posted on 02/13/2004 9:54:58 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Dialup Llama
BUMP to find my place and the reply from FormerACLUmember
13 posted on 02/13/2004 9:55:27 AM PST by kitkat
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To: Bikers4Bush
They will steal our technology next.
14 posted on 02/13/2004 9:55:52 AM PST by international american (Kerry; ididntdoitididntdoitnobodysawmedoit..................)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Give that man a cupie doll, he is correct!
15 posted on 02/13/2004 9:56:23 AM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: international american
They already are stealing it.

If Microsquash and the RIAA think bootlegs are a problem now just wait.
16 posted on 02/13/2004 9:56:51 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Dialup Llama
The bank in question uses Indian out sourcing. My dad's account was looted with wire transfers of $200- $2000 using inside information and falsified documents to India, totalling $33,000 before my 90 year old pop got wind of this.

He will get all the money back (allegedly).

The bank is "re-evaluating" its use of Indian ousourcing.

17 posted on 02/13/2004 9:57:07 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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To: FormerACLUmember
re: My 90 year old disabled Army Officer dad (2 purple hearts and a bronze star) had $33,000 wired out of his bank account to India.)))

Really!!?

What was the outcome?

18 posted on 02/13/2004 9:57:09 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: FormerACLUmember; All
My 90 year old disabled Army Officer dad (2 purple hearts and a bronze star) had $33,000 wired out of his bank account to India.

The India outsourcing will ultimately make the Nigerian scams look like child's play.

You got that right...but DON'T wait for the American Press to report it!!

19 posted on 02/13/2004 9:57:56 AM PST by Lael (Offshore Outsourcing will be solved politically...the process for CEO's will "end badly" !!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
ousourcing = outsourcing.
20 posted on 02/13/2004 9:58:08 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Man rises to greatness if greatness is expected of him)
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