Dad Slugs Man Who Offers Money To Girl For Sex

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[Stone Mountain]

Yeah, that's easy advice to follow when you're Jack Lambert. .. : )

[sweetliberty]

"But they later dropped the charges after concluding that no jury would convict him."

Occasionally justice is served.

[Paul C. Jesup]

Jimmy Hunt punched the man in the face. Prosecutors in York charged Hunt with disorderly conduct and simple assault. But they later dropped the charges after concluding that no jury would convict him.

Yea, the judge and jury might give him a metal and CONVICT the prosecutors.

[Stu Cohen]

I read post #77.

You said, and I quote "Your argument that if a "victim defends herself or himself by hitting another person," while I understand what you are saying, still doesn't fall into the legal definition of self defense. "

Therefore, by your definition ... a rape victim must be arrested for fighting back, a mugging victim must arrested for fighting off their attacker, etc.

It's always one person's word against the other.

So, by definition, everytime any physical contact takes place between two parties, the police MUST arrest both parties and let a judge or jury sort it out.

I clearly disagree.

[Stu Cohen]

Or is it fair just because he has a Latin name?

I have no dog in this fight, but come on, the chances of a person being illegal alien are greater if they have a Hispanic last name than a Western Eurpoean or Jewish surname.

And one plus one equals two, and grass is green.

Drop the policital correct nonesense.

[CJ Wolf]

lol

[joesnuffy]

Daughter needs to fix her dad a special dinner come father's day....
I admire his restraint at only punching out the SOB

[jnarcus]

I want to know if Hernandez is an illegal...if so then we can once again point to the diversity quotient...After all these hardworking folks just want to bring their families here and practise good old fashioned American family calues. I think there is an untold story here. And good foe the law for holding onto this creep.

[judgeandjury]

Or is it fair just because he has a Latin name?

That, plus the fact that there are approximately 10-15 million people illegally in the United States who have "Latin" names.

[jnarcus]

An old man without a daughter would be my guess...Here is a teenaged girl child shopping with her father at WalMart and all you can do is come to the conclusion that she dresses slutty. My child (16) often shop together and I have had to on more than one occassion tell old men to leave her alone...dressed slutty not at all. But some folks think that being crude and disgusting is acceptable behaviour...perhaps you may be of like mind

[citizen]

It's fair.

Just like it would have been fair and oh, so life & death important to have known that Rafael Racindez Ramariz was a double-digit number of times Illegal alien border crasher.

Who was Ramairz? "The Train Killer" from '98 or '99, who killed more than a dozen people in the rural heartland, all near freight train lines.

For the record, I think it was established that Ramariz in not the killers real name, it's just the one I remember.

But I don't expect the legality of a perp to be mentioned in most national news stories. It's so unPC you see.

There is much crime in this country. Lawful citizens deserve to know explicity how many Illegals commit crimes so they can make informed decisions RE immigration/border policy.

[Cobra64]

Jimmy probably learned this from his brother Mike

Paging Mike Hunt. Mike Hunt.

[tpaine]

Jury nullification is ALWAYS justified, if the jury can make a fully informed decision.

That's a juries function, to find justice in the case at hand..
Sadly, many so-called conservatives here at FR do not agree:

Nullification and Liberty
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/804008/posts
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The problem with jury nullification is that communities like Berkeley, CA exist.
The founding fathers designed a wonderful system. They were also quite clear in their writings that only an enlightened and moral populace could make it work. We have neither today.
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You're claiming a whole city full of people lack the 'morals' to field an enlightened jury? Get real..

Sure Bizerkly has far more than its fair share of freaks & weirdos, but I'd bet a jury there would nullify the case at hand just as fast as one in York PA.

[agrace]

I read this story courtesy of my father's copy of Human Events just yesterday and this brief article leaves out a couple details, namely that Hernandez is an illegal.

Human Events Online says the following; also read linked column by Larry Hicks for even more details -

No Deal For This Dad: Jimmy Ray Hunt was at home in York, Pa., on July 3, 2003, when his 17-year-old daughter Jamie called with an emergency.

"Jamie," writes columnist Larry A. Hicks of the York Dispatch, "was at Wal-Mart shopping for nail polish when she was approached by Armondo Hernandez, an illegal alien who happens to be 22 years her senior. Hernandez is alleged to have propositioned Jamie Hunt, offering her $200 and $300 for sex and touching her repeatedly…quot;even after she clearly told him to leave her alone."

Hunt raced to the Wal-Mart, keeping his daughter on the line. When he arrived, Hernandez was coming at his daughter again. So, Hunt punched him in the nose, and detained him for the police.

But they arrested Hunt, too. Hernandez pleaded guilty to indecent assault and harassment, and is now awaiting deportation. Hunt was charged with simple assault and disorderly conduct. But he is refusing a plea bargain offered by the prosecutor. "I told them no…quot;I'm not pleading guilty to anything," Hunt told columnist Hicks. "I'll take my chances with a jury."

[Cobra64]

And remember, don't let your meat loaf.

[nightdriver]

"Prosecutor Bill Graff said you can't take the law into your own hands...."

What law? The law of survival?

"Prosecutor Bill Graff" needs to be reminded for whom he is working.

[agrace]

He's an illegal who is twice her age. See post 94.

[Sonny M]

I say prosecut the cops too. They can't be everywhere, and they can't be hauling off everyone who does the right thing. And it usually is obvious who that is.

I guess the cops you know are mind readers and can't be fooled by lies.

I remember a couple of years ago in my neighborhood, a guy beat somone with a baseball bat, his claim was that this other person tried to kidnap his 8 year old daughter, he had a few witnesses to verify his story too (friends, later turned out to be gang members). Only after some good old fashioned police work did it become clear that this was over gambling debts.

Also arrests can be expunged from your record, so far right now, I believe this father, but for all we could know he could be pimping her or something, or this could involve a million things, we don't know, but because the cops did there job, it can be ruled out.

This may shock you, but some criminals do lie and can also play the victim, they may even be able to get a witness to b.s. for them, doesn't mean you just let them walk because they "seem" honest.

[Stu Cohen]

I guess the cops you know are mind readers and can't be fooled by lies.

So, you do adocate arresting the mugging victim or rape victim if there is evidence that their attacker incurred a physical injury?

I'm not arguing with you, I just want to be sure that this is your position.

I mean, they aren't mind readers. The sex *could* have simply been rough consensual sex, and the guy who was being mugged *could* have overreacted to a slight bumb on the head.

It's never obvious who is innocent and who is guilty? Really? It always takes the power of a mind reader?

That is you official position?

This may shock you, but some criminals do lie and can also play the victim, they may even be able to get a witness to b.s. for them, doesn't mean you just let them walk because they "seem" honest.

Well, then round up all those rape victims who fought back and arrest 'em. I mean, you pretty much gotta, cause it's possible they were simply playing the victim.

*shrug* If that's what you think, that's what you think. Not sure I agree, but that's okay.

[cinFLA]

Actually, in most cases of 'jury nullification', the jury is turning it's back on the evidence and voting for causes instead of justice.