[PhilipFreneau]

>> So what's your point.

My point was, and still is, that nations that forget God do not last.

>> And this is not a particularly troubled or devisive time in America's history.

Huh? This nation is gravely threatened, from without by an evil Islamic cult that has no moral restraint against using WMD's against innocent citizens; and from within by the forces of immorality: those who would be happy to see our nation destroyed. Although it is written that God will destroy those who destroy the earth, and that the nations will be healed after the judgement, there are some very trying times ahead.

[js1138]

My point was, and still is, that nations that forget God do not last.

Unless you accept any old definition of God, You're mistaken, as demonstrated by my list.

As for this being a troubled time, we've seen worse. The Revolution, 1812, Civil War, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam. If you weren't of military age during any of these, you have nothing to say about times of trouble.

[qam1]

My point was, and still is, that nations that forget God do not last.

I don't get your point because Nations that do remember God do not last either. The Visigoths, Vandals, Ostrogoths, Austrian-Hungry empire, Franks, Burgundies, Byzantines, Spanish empire, etc. were all very Christian and all of them didn't last.

Actually if anything Christianity was a bad thing for the Romans, Their empire lasted ~1100 years before Christianity and after Constantine converted the empire to Christianity the empire fell apart within 140 years. The same can be said of the Vikings.