[js1138]

My point was, and still is, that nations that forget God do not last.

Unless you accept any old definition of God, You're mistaken, as demonstrated by my list.

As for this being a troubled time, we've seen worse. The Revolution, 1812, Civil War, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam. If you weren't of military age during any of these, you have nothing to say about times of trouble.

[PhilipFreneau]

>> Unless you accept any old definition of God, You're mistaken, as demonstrated by my list.

I give up...

>> As for this being a troubled time, we've seen worse. The Revolution, 1812, Civil War, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam. If you weren't of military age during any of these, you have nothing to say about times of trouble.

I served during the Vietnam War. Fortunately for me my billet was needed in the Indian Ocean, so Thailand was as close as I got to Vietnam. All of the wars you mentioned were terrible, indeed, but none were close to the peril we face from WMD's. If I recall one of my college classes correctly, the smallest suitcase nuke would weigh less 25 pounds, and would be the size of a large briefcase. Some biological agents, the contagions, are possibly more threatening. Both biologicals and chemical WMD's are easily disguised and distributed. If not stopped this will be like no war mankind has ever experienced.