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Stem Cells Mined From Human Embryo Clone
The Associated Press ^ | February 11, 2004 | AP

Posted on 02/12/2004 7:26:52 AM PST by Diamond

Stem Cells Mined From Human Embryo Clone
In Therapeutic Breakthrough, South Korean Researchers Cull Stem Cells From Cloned Human Embryo

The Associated Press


WASHINGTON Feb. 11 — Researchers in South Korea for the first time have cloned a human embryo and then culled stem cells from it, marking an important step toward one day growing patients' own replacement tissue to treat diseases.

The experiment is sure to revive controversy over human cloning, both in the United States and internationally.

This is not cloning to make babies. Instead it's called therapeutic cloning, in which embryos that are the genetic twins of a particular patient are grown in a test-tube to supply master stem cells that can grow into any tissue without being rejected by that patient's immune system.

The technique offers the potential of breakthrough treatments for diabetes, Parkinson's and other diseases, but any therapy is years away from being tested in people.

Scientists have used therapeutic cloning to partially cure laboratory mice with an immune system disease. And they know how to cull stem cells from human embryos left over in fertility clinics, offering the potential of cell therapy but not patient-specific treatment.

But attempts at cloning a human embryo in the stem-cell quest have failed until now.

Scientists from Seoul National University report they succeeded thanks, they say, to using extremely fresh eggs donated by South Korean volunteers and finding a gentler way of handling the genetic material inside them.

The report appears in Friday's edition of the journal Science.

It's elegant work that provides long-anticipated proof that the technique is possible using human cells, said stem-cell researcher Dr. Rudolf Jaenisch of the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research in Cambridge, Mass.

"That's an important point to prove," he said.

Still, "it's not of practical use at this point," Jaenisch said, stressing that years of additional research are required.

For one thing, the cloning technique still doesn't work well: The Seoul team collected 242 eggs, from which they succeeded in cloning 30 blastocysts early-stage embryos containing a mere 100 cells. From those, they harvested just one colony of stem cells.

Still, it's likely to renew debate over whether all forms of human cloning should be banned. In Congress, the House last year voted to do that, but the Senate stalled over whether there should be an exception for research of this type.

Internationally, the United States is pushing for a United Nations ban of all human cloning, too. The U.N. General Assembly recently postponed a decision. There is almost universal support for a global ban of reproductive cloning, but Britain and a number of other countries want cloning for medical experiments left unhindered.

Cloning aside, Jaenisch lamented that most U.S. scientists won't be able to experiment with the Seoul researchers' new stem-cell line. Culling stem cells from embryos kills them, and President Bush has forbidden any federally funded research on stem cells from embryos destroyed after Aug. 9, 2001 making the South Koreans' recently developed line too new.

Laurie Zoloth, professor of medical humanities and bioethics at the Feinberg School of Medicine at Northwestern University, said the United States needs to pay close attention to such work.

"It is clearly time now that it is more tangible to set in place a process where we can have some kinds of experiments supported and some things banned," she said. "The kind of cloning to make human babies is impermissible. Clearly, the (South Korean researchers') intent is to do therapy. It's one tiny step closer to some medical use. It would be a wise thing to support."

Additional experiments by the Seoul team suggest its stem-cell colony can indeed generate numerous different types of body cells. It began to form muscle, bone and other tissues in test tubes and when implanted into mice.

The team's next step, now under way, is studying how to direct which tissues those cells form, said Dr. Woo Suk Hwang, lead author of the report.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bioethics; clone; embryo; human; southkorea; stemcells
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The deliberate creation of human beings for the purpose of destroying them in order to 'benefit' others is an indescribably hideous evil. Here they created 30 human beings and then they killed them. The hubris of these scientists who experiment on other human beings makes me wonder who actually won WWII. They think they are immune from any restraint of moral law, and from future judgment.
1 posted on 02/12/2004 7:26:54 AM PST by Diamond
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To: MHGinTN
You may want to ping your list on this story.

Cordially,

2 posted on 02/12/2004 8:30:57 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
Thanks for posting this article.

I can't believe that anyone would be in favor of using over 232 human oocytes to create 30 human embryos for the purpose of harvesting their parts - and killing them in the process. Well, maybe the butchers who buy and sell the kidneys of poor people in India and South America, but no one else.
3 posted on 02/12/2004 1:41:20 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Diamond
I shall ping the list ... and there is more of backgrounder information on embryonic stem cells and cloning at THIS LINK (for any visitors to FR, since the list already knows of the link).
4 posted on 02/12/2004 8:12:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; backhoe; Woahhs; Victoria Delsoul; William Wallace; Bryan; aristeides; Bella_Bru; ...
PING))))))
5 posted on 02/12/2004 8:14:00 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Diamond
Sad.
6 posted on 02/12/2004 8:17:22 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Diamond
God is pissed.
7 posted on 02/12/2004 8:20:21 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Diamond
This is, quite simply, the farming of human beings. Like livestock, they are bred for parts. Many can look past this because it's just little tiny cells that don't look like much. Notice how most articles about this make clear "this is not cloning to make babies." Cloning for medical parts is so much more civilized, isn't it? Well, 25 years from now these same scientists will promise miracle cures "if only we let the clones reach 8 weeks... 3 months... 4 months". Sadly, you can hear people using the same justifications to kill a 4 month old cloned human as a 4 day old one. After all, they're just clones, right? They weren't cloned for the purpose of making a baby, ergo they aren't really human.
8 posted on 02/12/2004 8:25:28 PM PST by workerbee
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To: Diamond
Evil without conscience.
9 posted on 02/12/2004 8:28:20 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.")
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the ping!
10 posted on 02/12/2004 10:27:15 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: MHGinTN
BTTT!!!!!
11 posted on 02/13/2004 3:07:06 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Diamond
Just last year S Kor researchers said they wouldn't do this. There is sone kind of ethical law prohibiting it. Now they are going ahead anyway citing a superior ethical law. The arguments on both sides are weak. It seems the judgements are being made on Kierkegaard's first and lowest level, the aesthetic level. The next level, the ethical level, is the midlevel. We're not on the midlevel, yet.
12 posted on 02/13/2004 10:00:25 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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The arguments on both sides are weak. It seems the judgements are being made on Kierkegaard's first and lowest level, the aesthetic level. The next level, the ethical level, is the midlevel. We're not on the midlevel, yet.

Please elaborate. I'm not sure what you mean by the arguments on both sides, or to whom the "we" refers. Are you referring just to the S. Koreans?

Cordially,

13 posted on 02/13/2004 10:57:33 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
It's all aesthetics so far. No rational arguments.
14 posted on 02/13/2004 11:21:14 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

15 posted on 02/13/2004 11:27:33 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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To: RightWhale
Are you asking for a rational argument as to why creating 32 human beings for the express purpose of harvesting their bodies is wrong?

Cordially,

16 posted on 02/13/2004 11:46:44 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
Are you asking for a rational argument as to why creating 32 human beings for the express purpose of harvesting their bodies is wrong?

It would be a start. So far there is nothing rational on that side at all.

17 posted on 02/13/2004 11:49:26 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the ping my friend - keep them coming.
18 posted on 02/14/2004 10:32:52 AM PST by Frapster (John 3:16)
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To: RightWhale
So far there is nothing rational on that side at all.

I have been thinking about your response for about four days now, out of sheer surprise, simply because the premises upon which the aforesaid responses are based should seem to be self-evident to any rational person. I think the best way to answer is to say that the responses that you characterize as "aesthetics' are simply the logical conclusions that flow from certain moral presuppositions. The aforesaid responses are value judgments based on rational and moral propositions regarding the essential worth, dignity, and inalienable rights of human beings, and thus are of a different sort than, say, a subjective aesthetic value judgment regarding a piece of music.

If you wish to challenge the moral premises, or the logical conclusions that flow from such premises, please have at it.

Cordially,

19 posted on 02/17/2004 9:35:38 AM PST by Diamond
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To: Diamond
the essential worth, dignity, and inalienable rights of human beings

There is a sizeable number of persons in the US, and vastly greater numbers outside that think little of these qualities. I am deadset against both abortion and human cloning, for neither aesthetic nor ethical reasons, but for religious reasons. However, for those who lack the concept of religious reasons in these questions, neither ethical nor aesthetic theory will provide much basis for judgement until some thought is given to development of these concepts. It is clear that our representatives won't give any thought to religious reasons in these matters, therefore they must be provided with ethical or even aesthetical reasons. Legal precedent is being established right now--to wait is to lose.

20 posted on 02/17/2004 7:08:39 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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