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Skeptical Couric Interviews John Edwards, Slyly Raises His Military Record
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Posted on 02/12/2004 4:41:19 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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Today Show ping.
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Edwards: "I'm absolutely in it for the long haul. I'm a different choice from Kerry, I come from them [the average American], I've been fighting for them all my life."LOL. Okay, who's got the pics of this average American's posh beach mansion, the one he was layte paying his taxes on?
Thanks for your work, BTW, governs. You're a braver man than I, Gunga Din :)
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posted on
02/12/2004 4:44:15 AM PST
by
mewzilla
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Interesting.
To: mewzilla
"I've been fighting for them all my life."Translation: taking 33% off the top of trumped-up class action lawsuits. You get the voucher worth $2 off your next purchase from the corporate villian, I get the mansion on the beach!
To: Prodigal Son
Could it be that Katie is convinced Kerry has the best chance of beating W and therefore wants to clear the field for him?
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Good report,governs.I cannot watch two days in a row.Wouldn't be prudent.I used up my Rolaids yesterday!Thank you for keeping up with the enemy camp.
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posted on
02/12/2004 4:47:56 AM PST
by
MEG33
(BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Wonder if he ever paid that 11 grand in back taxes?
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posted on
02/12/2004 4:49:30 AM PST
by
mewzilla
To: MEG33
Wouldn't be prudent. At this juncture. Not gonna do it, not gonna do it!
To: governsleastgovernsbest
I think she's backing the wrong horse personally.
This whole Vietnam thing is going to come back to bite Kerry in the butt.
Edwards gets a pass because he didn't serve, protest or skate.
It is very hard for me to believe that Americans would pick Kerry as their guy. He's just a really weird person. With that Botox- why not elect Mickey Rourke?
Now that Lieberman and Gephardt are out of the race, Edwards is the only one that looks remotely sane. That Kerry is in the lead should be a source of great concern to Katie- not someting she would want to sustain. She should be trying to eviscerate Kerry, not support him.
I'll put it like this. If faced with the choice between Bush and Kerry and Americans choose Kerry- they deserve whatever they get. I wouldn't trust him to go down to the corner store and get me a liter of milk.
To: All
I believe Edwards is caught in a bind on the issue of W's military service.
On the one hand, Edwards must demonstrate his Bush-hating bona fides to Dem primary voters. On the other hand, he is acutely aware of his own vulnerability on the issue.
He therefore plays it cute, arguing that the inquiry is "appropriate," while claiming that the "real issues" on which the presidential campaign will be fought are the ones he sees himself as strong on: connecting with "average" people, job loss, etc.
To: Prodigal Son
Interesting analysis.
My gut says that Kerry has reached his high-water mark with his Vietnam hero thing. He continues to speak in maudlin terms of his "band of brothers." But it will become increasingly clear to Americans that when he came home, he denounced those brothers as war criminals, and ever since has been trying to deny them the means to defend themselves and defeat the enemy.
To: governsleastgovernsbest
I come from them [the average American],What a disgustingly patronizing statement. sinator hillary! must be coaching him.
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:05:28 AM PST
by
mombonn
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Kerry has reached his high-water mark with his Vietnam hero thing What, Kerry was a Vietnam War hero. I didn't know that.
But seriesly, John Edwards is scheduled to be on IMUS this morning. I'll hold my nose and listen for anything interesting.
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:08:20 AM PST
by
McGruff
(The lefts new standard bearer "Hanoi John")
To: governsleastgovernsbest
Exactly right.
BTW, did Katie serve?
To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Edwards, doing his best imitation of the Black Knight. . ."
"Come back! I'll bite you to death!"
Wish I could post pictures.
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:10:46 AM PST
by
Lee'sGhost
(Crom!)
To: governsleastgovernsbest
On the one hand, Edwards must demonstrate his Bush-hating bona fides to Dem primary voters. On the other hand, he is acutely aware of his own vulnerability on the issue. I think this is where we disagree. I don't think a person should be a Vietnam vet before he becomes president and I think most Americans share this feeling. They didn't hold it against Clinton that he skated out on Vietnam. It was a really weird time in our nation and it is largely in the past.
What they will hold against a candidate is a sense of 'two-facedness'. Americans don't like that at all. This is why Americans don't like the French.
For most Americans, they aren't going to hold it against Edwards that he didn't serve in Vietnam. Likewise, they aren't really going to hold it against Dubya that he did the National Guard thing and maybe didn't show up for duty. In the mind of the average guy I sincerely believe the thought is 'Hey, you did what you had to do'.
But to serve and then do a 180 and stand by the likes of J. Fonda is unacceptable to Americans and particularly to then beat Bush on the head with his own 'non-service'.
The logic goes as thus- the war was wrong, therefore it was wrong to serve. Dubya did not go to war, but this makes him wrong because he is Republican. Clinton didn't go to war but this is ok because he is Democrat.
Bollocks.
Kerry served in Vietnam. Nobody will begrudge him that. What Fonda did was despicable. Everybody that served pretty much agrees with that. In no case does it make it ok for Kerry to use his clout as a veteran to back Fonda and what she did. What Fonda did was helpful to the enemy. If you backed her, you were helping the enemy by default.
I'll come right out and say it- better that a young person did what Clinton did- flee the country- than to use his status as veteran to help the enemy. Why? Because the veteran should know better.
Clinton was more honorable in the way that he avoided service than the way that Kerry sh!t on his comrades who were still serving. That's my opinion.
To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Edwards: "I'm absolutely in it for the long haul. I'm a different choice from Kerry, I come from them [the average American], I've been fighting for them all my life." Geez, thanx John boy ... can I mow your lawn?
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:14:57 AM PST
by
knarf
(A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
To: Lee'sGhost
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posted on
02/12/2004 5:15:15 AM PST
by
EllaMinnow
(If you want to send a message, call Western Union.)
To: Prodigal Son
Clinton was more honorable in the way that he avoided service than the way that Kerry sh!t on his comrades who were still serving. I can definitely see that point of view.
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