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Conservatives Need to Get Real
The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

Posted on 02/11/2004 11:00:20 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

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To: Mo1
The choices are Bush or Dem like Kerry or Edwards A third party has no chance in hell of winning ..

Which doesn't say it isn't a choice. It certainly is.

581 posted on 02/12/2004 10:35:13 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Mo1
Never said they weren't ... but their problem is they want it all NOW!! And if they don't get it all NOW .. By goodness they are going to sit home

How about getting even a tiny bit now?

It's been a dry run for us. We've lost ground. Not even held our previous ground. Not even close.

What's the point if some are willing to throw the election??

Again: It's nine months away. Plenty of time to bring the base home.

You seem as impatient as do some of the people you are complaining about. What's your rush?
582 posted on 02/12/2004 10:50:23 AM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: StoneColdGOP
Ping-a-ling
583 posted on 02/12/2004 10:52:19 AM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: George W. Bush; Mo1
How about getting even a tiny bit now?

You can't even bring yourself to give him credit for any good that he's done. Change your screen name, please. It's very deceiving.

584 posted on 02/12/2004 10:53:29 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: My2Cents
Who gives a flip what you think.

Quit crying. All conservatives don't march in lock step, cadence behind the Republican party. Some of us think for ourselves out here.

I, for one, hope you and the rest of the coercive naysayers who haunt these fine discussion threads never darken the door of the Republican Party again.

I must be painful for you to deal with the truth, when it's brought up. But that's too damn bad.

Unlike you, I refuse to sit in silence in the face of wrong. Unlike you, I will offer my honest opinion when I see fit.

You remind me of the story about the kings clothes, while all the people on the road were too scared or didn't want to offend the naked king, they all commented on how nice his clothes looked, while one little boy had the guts and honesty to point out that the king was butt naked.

Learn the difference between negativity and justified criticism.

You're a pimple on the arse of the body politic.

You wouldn't say this to my face, so don't it here. End the personal attacks. Or are a just a selected few immune from the rules?

585 posted on 02/12/2004 11:11:24 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Contrary to the rude responses of those who say thay don't care, many of us do care what you think.
586 posted on 02/12/2004 11:32:16 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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To: Wolfstar; All
You're oh so right. Their arguments are circular. And we get nowhere trying to refute them. We have bigger fish to fry, like the re-election of this President, winning the war on terror, battling the moral fatigue of the left, defending America's values in a dangerous and hostile world, reforming our courts with judicial nominations that respect and understand the original intent of the Founders, and bringing faith back into the mainstream of American society. George W. Bush is committed to these things. Apparently, the naysayers are not. To h*** with them. Follow or leave...whatever their wish. But I will not waste more of my valuable time stroking their egos by giving their intellectual drippings further attention.
587 posted on 02/12/2004 11:37:33 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: George W. Bush
You seem as impatient as do some of the people you are complaining about. What's your rush?

Oh please .. give me a break

Let me tell you a story about my oldest daughter when she was little

One day it had been raining really hard and that she wanted to go out to play.

I said that's not a good idea ... because I knew she'd get all wet if she did and she wouldn't like it

She didn't like that answer .. so I tried to make her happy by making cookies

That still didn't work .. so I tried giving her other things

But still .. that didn't work

Finally I said .. Fine you want to play outside .. Go for it .. open the door and let her go

And guess what .. she then started crying because she was all wet and wanted to come back inside

The reason for me telling that story??

One would think after the 8 year nightmare we all went through .. one wouldn't want to go back outside and get wet again

One would think they learned their lesson

And one would think they would want to make things better .. instead of making it worse

588 posted on 02/12/2004 11:38:09 AM PST by Mo1 (" Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?")
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To: George W. Bush
You can't even bring yourself to give him credit for any good that he's done. Change your screen name, please. It's very deceiving.

584 posted on 02/12/2004 12:53:29 PM CST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)

See? I told ya so! Nah, nah nah nah nah nah. :^}

589 posted on 02/12/2004 11:51:25 AM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
If that's the only difference you see between them then you are beyond rationality and beyond hope. Your standards are also far outside the realm of the possible that you are going to be entirely miserable for the rest of your life.


Have a nice day... someday.
590 posted on 02/12/2004 11:55:47 AM PST by Tamzee (EARTH FIRST!!! We'll stripmine the other planets later...)
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To: billbears
And I don't think even a Democrat would go to the UN to ask for permission if this nation of states was attacked by another nation.

Further demonstrating that you lack the clarity of mind to "think." You have not paid to attention to the missives spewed by the hopefuls.

591 posted on 02/12/2004 12:09:57 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Change your screen name, please. It's very deceiving.

Only to stupid people. Really.
592 posted on 02/12/2004 12:13:53 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: Tamsey; My2Cents
Thanks for the portrait!
Isn't this thread wonderful? I'm so glad My2Cents pinged so many hilarious idiots, exposing them for the impotent little pickles they are.
593 posted on 02/12/2004 12:15:55 PM PST by b9
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To: Protagoras

594 posted on 02/12/2004 12:17:58 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: The_Eaglet
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Contrary to the rude responses of those who say thay don't care, many of us do care what you think.

I Appreciate that.

Some of us don't "follow" the crowd and we make lousy "yes" men. Thank God there are still some American's that will question those in political power, instead of just winking and nodding and following them blindly down the slippery slope. Some of us don't treat those in political office as celebrities. That's what they do in third world countries, with their political leaders pictures plastered all over the landscape. I don't want autographs, or a celebrity, I want someone who will support and defend the constitution, defend our borders and sovereignty, and do the job they took the oath to do.

It takes no guts to capitulate and yield to the whims of politicians just because the say they are on your side, or happen to belong to your political party. Those that are willing to put their political party before country regardless of consequences, are no better than others with a special interest or personal agenda.

595 posted on 02/12/2004 12:26:35 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Mo1; Protagoras; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; OWK
The reason for me telling that story??

Gee, this is tough. I do have some guesses:
  1. Your children have no raincoats.
  2. Your daughter couldn't find any WMD in the backyard.
  3. You want to make me cry by reciting homely anecdotes.
  4. Kerry boinks interns and Matt Drudge is just jealous.
  5. Conservatives are utterly evil.
  6. In '04, partisans are FRingers and conservatives are the swing vote.
  7. Conservatives and partisans never actually read each others' posts.
  8. Protagoras feeds the trolls.
  9. All those ugly rumors aside, your daughter was never really AWOL.
  10. Bush is a god.
Okay. Did I guess the right one?
596 posted on 02/12/2004 12:32:31 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: My2Cents
But I will not waste more of my valuable time stroking their egos by giving their intellectual drippings further attention.

Didn't you say the same thing about 40 posts ago?

597 posted on 02/12/2004 12:35:43 PM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
Yes. Some people refuse to listen.
598 posted on 02/12/2004 12:36:35 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: onyx
Further demonstrating that you lack the clarity of mind to "think." You have not paid to attention to the missives spewed by the hopefuls.

Why thank you. I have presented several arguments of which you have failed to answer one. What you have done is continued personal attacks questioning my conservatism, my ability to think for myself, and ignorance in not 'understanding' how it 'is'. All you've done is show a complete lack of an argument proving your point. Rather emotions based on nothing more than party loyalty

What you have not done is what you should have been doing since 2002, which is to question why this man you praise in effect partially reduced the sovereignty of this nation of states by calling for re-entry into UNESCO, something that Ronald Reagan, a conservative President, had removed this nation of states from.

And contrary to your opinion, for that's all it is, if this nation of states was truly attacked by another sovereign nation, nothing a figurehead sitting in the White House could say would quell the uproar if he did not call for immediate and swift reprisals against said nation. Kerry and the boys may talk but that's all it is. Talk.

599 posted on 02/12/2004 12:37:24 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: My2Cents
Well, to be fair to "some people", you're the one who claimed you'd not waste any more of your valuable time on them. Yet it appears you haven't heeded your own edict.

Just an observation.

600 posted on 02/12/2004 12:43:01 PM PST by NittanyLion
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