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Conservatives Need to Get Real
The Intellectual Conservative ^ | 02 February 2004 | Scott Shore

Posted on 02/11/2004 11:00:20 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

While President Bush may not be a conservative’s perfect president, the alternative should shake any discontents to active support of the President.

As a conservative, I agree with most of the criticism that has been leveled at President Bush amongst Republicans and conservatives. While I support the President’s foreign and defense policies, I think that the Administration has tried to do the impossible—preempt the Left on their own issues. Republicans were not put on this earth to increase the size of government, create massive new programs like Medicare, spend billions of dollars on AIDS in Africa, fund the UN renovation, expand the Federal role in education or pursue a reckless policy of granting amnesty to illegal foreigners working in the US. None of these initiatives by the President will, in the end, take votes from the Democratic core base. Democrats are much better and far more willing to outspend any Republican program that expands the Welfare State. The strong suit of Republicans is limited government, lower taxes, individual responsibility and strong national defense. Karl Rove may be right that some of the President’s big government initiatives may neutralize some independents. In any case, conservatives could have hoped for much more in a Washington where Republicans control both the White House and Congress.

Having said all that, I intend to do whatever I can to reelect President Bush. The reason is simple. The alternative is unthinkable. A tax increase by rolling back the President’s much needed tax relief will not go to reduce the deficit but to fund massive new social programs, especially some form of universal national health care system. The stimulus of tax relief will be gone and the deadweight of new taxes and government program will lead to a much larger deficit. Moreover, the hue and cry over the deficit is only logical if the deficit grows as a percentage of GDP over a period of years. Economic recovery can shrink the deficit in a relatively short time -- provided there is no new spending. A Democrat will give us the worst of both worlds -- higher taxes and higher spending.

A Democratic economic policy is also lethal to the American middle class and small business. The repeal of most taxes to the “wealthy” proposed by the Democrats are really to two-income families that are just getting by and are clearly the backbone of the middle-class and small business owners who pay income tax; their business is not a corporation but a family business that is a sole proprietorship. An increase in dividend taxation or capital gains will put the financial markets in a tailspin and further retard the growth of new or expanded business activity.

Universal health care has an interesting twist that few seem to be discussing. If people are concerned about possible invasions of privacy because of the Patriot Act, imagine the access to private information available to Big Brother when he gets his hands on your medical records. Once the government is subsidizing our health, how long will it take before certain health lifestyles or diets become a matter of government concern over its citizens? Should we expect a universal health care system to deliver the same value as our compulsory educational system? In fact, the Democrats are likely to create an even greater rift between the Haves and Have-Nots in healthcare by allowing only the wealthiest Americans to pay for private services. Besides this, universal health will either bankrupt the economy since the demand for healthcare is virtually without limit or it will require the government to ration healthcare. Do we really want the delivery of healthcare to become a matter of political bargaining? Imagine the hypocrisy of those who are adamant that the relationship between a doctor and patient is sacrosanct when it comes to abortion, but would make almost all medical procedures a matter of public policy mandates in the future. Imagine your worst nightmare of an HMO and then increase that exponentially and you begin to get the real meaning of Universal Health Care. As for the eventual bill for this service, look to the past at all other federal entitlement programs. To make matters worse, no Democrat is going to support Medical Practice Tort Reform which is contributing to the skyrocketed growth of healthcare costs.

How will Democrats deal with other issues of free market choice for individuals? No Democrat supports any level of privatization of Social Security for retirement. There is no support for school vouchers or alternatives to the monopoly of the public school system. Finally there is no support for private Health Savings Accounts among the Democrats. While Republicans will at least look for market-based solutions to public policy issues, the unions and bureaucratic constituencies of the Democrats virtually insures no such innovation.

On the matter of illegal immigration, the Democrats are more likely to pass a liberal new amnesty program than any GOP administration. The reason is that the Hispanic community seems to be “in play” and this is one constituency the Democrats really need to lock up in order to strengthen their position on the West Coast and in the Southwest.

One can only imagine the kind of social activist judges and Supreme Court justices that would be appointed by the Democratic nominee. The Federal Judiciary will begin to resemble the lunacy of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco. Can any responsible citizen sit home and allow the judiciary to lunge to the Left? This alone should energize conservatives. The dismantling of all religious tradition or symbolism in public life is likely to continue with a Democratic President and a liberal judiciary.

The final issue is one of national security. Certainly no one can believe that a Democratic administration will strengthen our intelligence and defense capabilities. It was under Democratic administrations that the CIA and other intelligence agencies became decimated and hand-tied. The Democrats have almost unanimously voted against nearly all major new weapons systems. At a time when we are in fact living in a Third World War, we can not go from a Churchill to a Chamberlain. It is disingenuous for the Democrats to glob onto intelligence deficiencies when they are largely the culprit for lack of human intelligence or material resources in the important area of espionage. In fighting a terrorist enemy, preemption is the natural policy and that requires intelligence first and foremost.

While President Bush may not be a conservative’s perfect president, the alternative should shake any discontents to active support of the President. Moreover, in the area of determining the security threat to the West and taking action, the President may go down as one of our greatest leaders. For the sake of the hope of more prudent domestic policy, judicial restraint and national security, there is really no choice. As for much of the domestic agenda, can we afford to sacrifice the good for the perfect?

Scott Shore is a political commentator and management consultant in Providence, Rhode Island.


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To: Lando Lincoln
Conservatives Need to Get Real

It's the Neil Diamond solution:

I am, I said
To no one there
And no one heard at all
Not even the chair
I am, I cried
I am, said I

141 posted on 02/11/2004 1:32:19 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Sloth
Merely wondering if you were part of the sleeper crowd urging others to stay home and defeat Bush....if I am wrong, heartfelt apologies.

It has become increasingly difficult at FR and in other forums, to identify those who have true ideological differences, and those in costume coming to sink our President.
142 posted on 02/11/2004 1:32:38 PM PST by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Herman Cain for the U.S. Senate.....this Georgia man is in YOUR future!)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
THe pious nature of those who consider themselves the "real" conservatives here is is reminicent of liberals telling me how much more they care about minorities, women, children, education, the environment...

No. You are partisans. We are conservatives. Or rightwingers. Or rightwing nuts. Or wingnuts if you prefer. Whatever.

I'm saying that nothing could stop you from supporting your party. And you resent anyone who isn't the same.
143 posted on 02/11/2004 1:36:40 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
"I suppose your frequent chide of those who disagree with you being "unprincipled" is not name calling."

Nope, just the truth!
144 posted on 02/11/2004 1:36:59 PM PST by Henrietta
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To: MJY1288
How many times are you gonna tell us that you aren't going to vote for Bush, <pointless rant>...

In fact, I've never said it. I still hope to vote for him.
145 posted on 02/11/2004 1:39:00 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: Howlin
At least we then agree on who are partisans and who are conservatives and which group is the swing vote in '04.
146 posted on 02/11/2004 1:40:17 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: Howlin
Before I go and do the chores I have been ignoring (am getting the evil eye from Mr. Hilaryrhymeswithrich) I will say in closing,

I love my President. That does not make me a Bushbot, as some here seem to delight in saying. It merely means that for the things I agree with, he is right on, and for the ways he has disappointed me, I can keep working on him.

My husband, a wonderful man in a million ways, also pisses me off with a certain amount of regularity. He makes some good choices, and some dumb ones. We have three small children who depend on us to know the stuff that really matters and work through the rest.

Sure, I could dump him for the young hot pool boy or, better yet, sit out the courtship thing altogether. But where does that get my kids? Who am I punishing, really, for not towing the line?? Would we all be better off working as a team? He may make a few mistakes now and then, but are they irrevocable errors? Cheating, beating henious errors?? Or are they differences in style? Extremes that I may not argree with but hardly marriage ending.

So to all of you who sit out the Prom or dump W for the pool boy, I say thanks for nothing.
147 posted on 02/11/2004 1:42:06 PM PST by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Herman Cain for the U.S. Senate.....this Georgia man is in YOUR future!)
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To: Henrietta
Well, now that you've taken to using the tactics of my 7 year old, I know where you stand and nanny nanny boo boo to you to
148 posted on 02/11/2004 1:43:41 PM PST by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Herman Cain for the U.S. Senate.....this Georgia man is in YOUR future!)
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To: Miss Marple
How is he stealing your money? Your taxes have gone down!

He's merely handing me a credit card balance that I'll have to pay off down the road.

The deficit will fall as revenue increases, just as it did after Reagan's tax cuts.

The Debt/GDP was declining from 1945 to 1980, from the WWII high of 114% to 32% in 1981. It ballooned again to 60% under Reagan because he had an adversarial congress. It is ballooning again now, but wait...why isn't Bush using his veto to stop spending? Why isn't congress fighting his spending tooth and nail like they did against Clinton?

I must assume you are a conservative of the green eye shade variety, who only cares about your perceived pocketbook, nevermind the threat from terrorists.

Nah. I give Bush credit for fighting abortion, and as I said, gave him a pass on AWB at the time because I believed it was just a pre-election ruse to get the soccar mom's vote. But now I believe he really does want to grab the very guns we may need to blow ali muhammed's turban off his shouders. He could have every airline pilot who so wishes armed right now, but his fed underlings are still holding the process up. I think the Patriot Act is garbage. I think his open borders stance represents a greater terrorist threat than all the cavity searches of granny at the airport combined.

149 posted on 02/11/2004 1:43:41 PM PST by Jim Cane (Vote Tancredo in '04)
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To: Wolfstar
Thanks for some excellent posts.

One thing that you said in passing struck me as something many of us are forgetting now:

But these most definitely are NOT ordinary times.

They haven't been ordinary since 9/11, and I doubt that they're going to go back to "ordinary" again for some time. Perhaps Bush has been too successful in restoring confidence and getting us back to more or less normal again, and we've forgotten.

But if we don't realize this and stop squabbling and get Bush and a bunch of good solid GOP senators in, then I think we're going to be in for a much rougher ride much sooner than we expected. The entire world is waiting to pounce on us if we stumble, and we'd do more than stumble with a Kerry - we'd fall flat on our faces, and we'd be fair game for the wolf pack.

Maybe that's a little apocalyptic of me, but I really see this election as something of crucial importance to our continued future.

150 posted on 02/11/2004 1:43:52 PM PST by livius
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To: George W. Bush
So I guess you'll be belly aching on this forum for the next 9 months about how things aren't like you expect them?
151 posted on 02/11/2004 1:44:43 PM PST by MJY1288 (IF JOHN KERRY IS THE ANSWER, IT MUST BE A STUPID QUESTION)
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To: George W. Bush
Gosh, thanks for proving my point for me. I guess you really are the great definer of the conservatives.
152 posted on 02/11/2004 1:44:49 PM PST by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Herman Cain for the U.S. Senate.....this Georgia man is in YOUR future!)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
Well, clearly you are an unprincipled MarriageBot!

Thanks for that great post!
153 posted on 02/11/2004 1:44:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: MJY1288; George W. Bush
How many times are you gonna tell us that you aren't going to vote for Bush

I know one thing, his screen name is a misnomer. He is entitled to vote for whom he chooses, and is entitled to all of his opinions. We have a right to respectfully disagree, and I now take that right. Anyone who would, even in the smallest degree, aid and abet the election of a socialist, U.N. loving gigolo, is no conservative.!

154 posted on 02/11/2004 1:45:08 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: onyx
If you don't vote, then you can't legitimately bitch. A blank vote will make you a "gelding."

I own my vote. I am the sole proprietor of my vote. Your views on the matter don't count.
155 posted on 02/11/2004 1:46:11 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: George W. Bush
I'm saying that nothing could stop you from supporting your party.

You're exactly right. And I'm damn proud of it.

Because the ONLY thing standing between ME and the liberals taking over this country IS the Republican Pary.

If you're willing to give it to them, you'll have to live with it.

156 posted on 02/11/2004 1:46:47 PM PST by Howlin
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To: MJY1288
So I guess you'll be belly aching on this forum for the next 9 months about how things aren't like you expect them?

I'd hate to disappoint you.
157 posted on 02/11/2004 1:47:31 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: swarthyguy
And I have this picture of taking the last issue from the Dems, maybe calling it Laura!Care.

I like it.

Actually, it scares me...

The problem is that we no longer live in a very conservative country. The old institutions that held society together since time began, which is to say, family, friends, neighbors, are not held in high regard. The idea that people should look after themselves and one another without government intruding is simply not a part of the national dialogue. No one is going for it, and therein lies the rub. If you can't sell it to your neighbor, you aren't going to sell it nationally.

But while we fight that battle out on the homefront, we can't afford to lose it all to the globalists. It is humorous to hear people attacking the US as the supreme globalist, while complaining that we are acting unilaterally. The globalists are the ones who want us to submit to global institutions that none of us elected, which care nothing for the principles we care about.

We are fighting a two front battle. The muslim nutcases are a real foe, and if they manage to get at us they can do real harm. But the other part of the battle is against the people that want us to submit to a supranational authority that none of us elected. Hence Kyoto, hence ICC, UN, and on and on. Hence the belief that US troops under US command are a threat to the world, whereas the same US troops under UN command are suddenly transformed into a positive. The people who espouse this are people who have forgotten, or never knew, what we stand for.

Which is fine, we don't have to elect them into power.

I am disturbed at the direction things are going domestically. Bush has been ineffective in turning things around on that front. But its a democracy, you can't force people to go where they don't want to go, tragic as that may be. But we live to fight another day, if we manage to carry the day on the other fronts, against the people who want to do us harm, and the people that want to rule us without our consent. Those two fronts GW has handled well, and if we lose on those two the third is settled without firing a shot.

So I will hang with him. You have to be realistic, we work with imperfect human tools. Just as a vote for Nader is a vote for Bush, in the current environment, and I heartily encourage all Democrats to vote their conscience and vote Nader, a conservative voter sitting home this November is a vote for the ICC, and Kyoto, and Kofi Annan. And Chirac, and the Belgian judges salivating at the possibility of putting US servicemen on trial.

158 posted on 02/11/2004 1:48:37 PM PST by marron
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To: George W. Bush
It's the Congress, stupid.

Try "It's the voters, stupid." The new coalition of Disgruntle Conservatives and Hateful Liberals want to do to Bush what they did to his father. One side wants to stab him in the back and the other side wants to drive a stake through his heart. What a bunch of sick bastards.

159 posted on 02/11/2004 1:51:23 PM PST by Consort
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To: onyx; KantianBurke; George W. Bush
Your votes won't be missed, because he never had them!

You're both insignificant.

Keep thinking that way...we'll see what happens in November.

160 posted on 02/11/2004 1:52:11 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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