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Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states
The Herald ^ | February 11 2004 | IAN BRUCE

Posted on 02/10/2004 10:25:24 PM PST by Bobibutu

Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states

IAN BRUCE, Defence Correspondent February 11 2004

ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from within, according to intelligence sources. Dozens of radicals trained in camps in western Pakistan and Kashmir are already believed to have slipped into the country and been absorbed in sleeper cells in unsuspecting Muslim communities as the vanguard of a holy army estimated to be several hundred strong. An FBI spokesman said al Qaeda and allied organisations were thought to be operating in 40 American states, awaiting orders for terror attacks. An official said up to 400 known radicals had passed through the camps. Many of the camps are run by Harakat-ul-Ansar and Lashkar-e-Taiba, militant groups with links to al Qaeda and a history of grooming guerrillas to attack security forces. India and Pakistan last month announced a peace initiative on disputed Kashmir. General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, said his country would not allow terrorist training on its soil. However, Indian and US intelligence agencies claim to have surveillance photographs and intercepted signals which show that between 60 and 70 camps are still in use. Some which were closed after the September 11 attacks on the US have also been reactivated. Pakistani authorities have arrested hundreds of al Qaeda suspects, including Abu Zubaydah, its top recruiting officer, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, chief of operations, and Ramzi Binalshibh, paymaster of the September 11 hijackers. US officials suspect that Pakistan's inter-services intelligence agency, which created and fostered the Taliban movement in Afghanistan, has not broken all its Islamic links with terrorist organisations. FBI agents last year arrested 11 men, including nine US citizens, for involvement in what became known as "the Virginia jihad". All were accused of engaging in terrorist training at camps run by Lashkar-e-Taiba. Six have since pleaded guilty. Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, Pakistan's ambassador to the US, yesterday denied the existence of any terrorist camps in his country or in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir. In Ukraine yesterday, the foreign ministry denied reports that scientists had sold nuclear weapons to al Qaeda. Markian Lubkiyvskyi, a spokesman, said Ukraine had transferred all its nuclear weapons to Russia by June 1, 1996.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; harakatulansar; jihadinamerica; lashkaretaiba; pakistan; redcross; virginiajihad
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To: Quilla
All those items you've shown wont do any good.

If it ever happens again, it will be quick, and these fanatics will probably kill themselves in the process. They don't seem to have a problem with that. I mean, without going into details, I can think of a hundreds scenarios where they could kill thousands in one day, quickly. The problem is that they are entering this country, apparently unabated, routinely. Once here, we have very little defense against someone igniting taxi in a crowd of hundreds......or.........

81 posted on 02/11/2004 9:08:46 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Quilla
holy moly, the phrase "locked and loaded" comes to mind!! Nice.
82 posted on 02/11/2004 9:09:11 AM PST by knak (wasknaknowknid)
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To: Grampa Dave; MarMema

83 posted on 02/11/2004 9:19:06 AM PST by SAMWolf (I misplaced my dictionary. Now I'm at a loss for words.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I would be surprised if there weren't many thousands of these murdering fanatics in this country.

With the average moslem population estimates coming in at about 5 million, if only 1% are Fundamentalists that means there are at least 5,000 forward troops.

84 posted on 02/11/2004 9:22:53 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I'm more worried that the reaction will be, "we brought it on ourselves", "we deserved it", "we had it coming", etc.

When the next attack on U.S. soil comes, I feel sorry for anyone who publicly says "we deserve it.

85 posted on 02/11/2004 9:24:40 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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I picked up a .223 about 2 years ago... still never have fired it believe it or else.

Time to sight it in.
86 posted on 02/11/2004 9:25:52 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
We've only got 36 states with must-issue concealed carry laws on the books

Keep an eye open to your surroundings.

87 posted on 02/11/2004 9:26:55 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
This is probably going to be an e-mail not liked by some but here goes anyway. I think we need to find out what means something to these animals (and something has to) perhaps their families. There has to be a love for their children or wives, more than likely their children more than their wives. These scumbags don't care about themselves because they feel they are being martyrs for the "greater good" of their people. You know what, that's fine but if they think that once they do something like homicide bomb innocent people, that their children will be killed at our hands not on their terms such as raising them to also be homicide bombers they might think an extra second about it.

Like I said, this is horrible to think about but if doing this would have people second guess they're primative thought and mmost impotantly save American lives then guess what.... I don't think there are many other choices.
88 posted on 02/11/2004 9:27:04 AM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: Kozak
..........or the innocent will suffer with the guilty.

I wouldn't consider those that harbor, aid and abet to be innocent!

89 posted on 02/11/2004 9:28:25 AM PST by varon
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To: Bobibutu
Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states

From the title, I thought it was about John Kerry's plans to run a national campaign.

90 posted on 02/11/2004 9:28:57 AM PST by montag813
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To: gunnrmike
The neighborhood where I live is a sleeper cell of American Patriots. Bring it on!

Sounds familiar. I was walking the dog a few nights ago and caught the unmistakable scent of Hoppes No. 9 on the breeze.

91 posted on 02/11/2004 9:34:18 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Bobibutu
the vanguard of a holy army estimated to be several hundred strong

This is supposed to impress?

92 posted on 02/11/2004 9:36:35 AM PST by streetpreacher
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To: Consort
"We don't need them — we already have the Democrats here."

Pretty close, Consort. I've always thought that alot of hard corp Dem libs would be happy to supply food and shelter to Islamists that would blow up or kill average American citizens. The problem with Libs is that they are mostly too pansy-like to do the dirty work themselves, as guns and stuff like that are nasty and they don't want to have to touch "evil" weapons themselves.
93 posted on 02/11/2004 9:37:06 AM PST by Lockbar
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To: SAMWolf; MarMema; dixiechick2000; blackie
Thank You! Now I have it in my current files.


95 posted on 02/11/2004 9:43:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (John F'onda Kerry is a Benedict Arnold with his anti America activities, post Nam.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
The intelligence sources say they are thought to be in 40 states and your telling me you think *they* are in for a surprise?

At some point, the gloves will come off.

Unlike Israel, we don't have to put up with a community of terrorists in our backyard - ALQ is counting on our PC welcome mat; if it's pulled out from underneath them there will be no safe haven.

Arab Americans will police their own.

96 posted on 02/11/2004 9:43:13 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: SAMWolf; Grampa Dave
Thank you so much. I love it. I should just make it wallpaper.
97 posted on 02/11/2004 9:57:18 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Quilla; bc2
LOL! I think we're going to have a lot of our non-gun-owning neighbors knocking on our doors if/when the balloon goes up, asking to "borrow" a gun. I saw this happen already during the Rodney King riots of April 1992.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

98 posted on 02/11/2004 9:57:33 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Joe Brower
I think we're going to have a lot of our non-gun-owning neighbors knocking on our doors if/when the balloon goes up, asking to "borrow" a gun. I saw this happen already during the Rodney King riots of April 1992.

Joe, read #81.

This isn't going to be riot like, or war against foreign troops on our soil, shooting from street to street, etc. All these nice images of firearms look real nice, but wont do any good, IMOH.

Again, the only real way to stop this brutal mass murder of our people, is to end the open border madness, and immigration "free for all". Once in, they can wreck unbelievable havoc.

99 posted on 02/11/2004 10:04:42 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf; Grampa Dave
All those items you've shown wont do any good. If it ever happens again, it will be quick, and these fanatics will probably kill themselves in the process.

I understand your reasoning but I think you are wrong. You probably didn't know a freeper who was just booted recently for cheering the deaths of the Russians who died in the subway.

Some of us knew him here for many years as an avowed supporter of islamic fascists. Back in the times of Bosnia, he was able to correctly predict a great deal of what came to pass, and because of this we felt that his connections were solid. Mostly those of us who frequent the slavic threads knew him well.

I had a few conversations with him in which he shared what I felt were genuine concerns for this country. He loved to see Russians and Serbs massacred but was not that fond of the idea of it happening here. He told me that what the islamic fascists do is study our military history and that the one event they really love was that street-fighting takeover in Vietnam. The one where they were airlifting people out? Saigon, maybe? You'll have to excuse me for being weak on this history....pinging Grampa for help here.

Anyway what he always said was that if the islamic fascists do something here, they will pattern it after that, because in their opinion it was a huge weakness for us. Even in our own country. He said they were prepared to martyr themselves by going out into the streets in mass numbers, all over the country, and just shooting randomly. At the same time they would have bombs go off in several places. The idea was not to kill a lot of people in one huge blast, though. It was to have thousands of multiple incidents taking place everywhere around the country at once or nearly at once, in order to create chaos and hopefully breakdown of civil order. It wouldn't be that they would kill a lot of people in each instance, but that they would create such a mess for law inforcement, etc, to respond, that our civil order would break down.

Anyway he did keep saying they were planning this primarily for London and it never happened....but I thought it was worth sharing here.

100 posted on 02/11/2004 10:09:50 AM PST by MarMema
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