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All those items you've shown wont do any good.

If it ever happens again, it will be quick, and these fanatics will probably kill themselves in the process. They don't seem to have a problem with that. I mean, without going into details, I can think of a hundreds scenarios where they could kill thousands in one day, quickly. The problem is that they are entering this country, apparently unabated, routinely. Once here, we have very little defense against someone igniting taxi in a crowd of hundreds......or.........

This is probably going to be an e-mail not liked by some but here goes anyway. I think we need to find out what means something to these animals (and something has to) perhaps their families. There has to be a love for their children or wives, more than likely their children more than their wives. These scumbags don't care about themselves because they feel they are being martyrs for the "greater good" of their people. You know what, that's fine but if they think that once they do something like homicide bomb innocent people, that their children will be killed at our hands not on their terms such as raising them to also be homicide bombers they might think an extra second about it.

Like I said, this is horrible to think about but if doing this would have people second guess they're primative thought and mmost impotantly save American lives then guess what.... I don't think there are many other choices.

All those items you've shown wont do any good. If it ever happens again, it will be quick, and these fanatics will probably kill themselves in the process.

I understand your reasoning but I think you are wrong. You probably didn't know a freeper who was just booted recently for cheering the deaths of the Russians who died in the subway.

Some of us knew him here for many years as an avowed supporter of islamic fascists. Back in the times of Bosnia, he was able to correctly predict a great deal of what came to pass, and because of this we felt that his connections were solid. Mostly those of us who frequent the slavic threads knew him well.

I had a few conversations with him in which he shared what I felt were genuine concerns for this country. He loved to see Russians and Serbs massacred but was not that fond of the idea of it happening here. He told me that what the islamic fascists do is study our military history and that the one event they really love was that street-fighting takeover in Vietnam. The one where they were airlifting people out? Saigon, maybe? You'll have to excuse me for being weak on this history....pinging Grampa for help here.

Anyway what he always said was that if the islamic fascists do something here, they will pattern it after that, because in their opinion it was a huge weakness for us. Even in our own country. He said they were prepared to martyr themselves by going out into the streets in mass numbers, all over the country, and just shooting randomly. At the same time they would have bombs go off in several places. The idea was not to kill a lot of people in one huge blast, though. It was to have thousands of multiple incidents taking place everywhere around the country at once or nearly at once, in order to create chaos and hopefully breakdown of civil order. It wouldn't be that they would kill a lot of people in each instance, but that they would create such a mess for law inforcement, etc, to respond, that our civil order would break down.

Anyway he did keep saying they were planning this primarily for London and it never happened....but I thought it was worth sharing here.

Bingo, Joe. You nailed it. Unless they're spotted on the way to their targets of opportunity, and taken out, it'll go off very quickly.

I shudder to think of the consequences of bio and chem being unleashed on large cities's populations.

That said, I've loaded up 6-20rnd mags for my AR-10, 12-40rnd mags for my two AR-15s and 5-8rnd mags for my Kimber 1911A1 .45cal ACP.

Also, went out this morning and bought 5,000rnds of assorted ammo to augment the 10,000rnds I have here in my Canon gunsafe.

Here in York-Lancaster Ctys (PA), they'd stick out like a bloody nose, driving anywhere in daylight. When/if TSHTF, I'm locked 'n loaded. Ready for the *jazz*.