Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states

The Herald ^ | February 11 2004 | IAN BRUCE

[Bobibutu]

Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states

IAN BRUCE, Defence Correspondent February 11 2004

ISLAMIC terror commandos are being infiltrated into the US in preparation for "an American jihad" from within, according to intelligence sources. Dozens of radicals trained in camps in western Pakistan and Kashmir are already believed to have slipped into the country and been absorbed in sleeper cells in unsuspecting Muslim communities as the vanguard of a holy army estimated to be several hundred strong. An FBI spokesman said al Qaeda and allied organisations were thought to be operating in 40 American states, awaiting orders for terror attacks. An official said up to 400 known radicals had passed through the camps. Many of the camps are run by Harakat-ul-Ansar and Lashkar-e-Taiba, militant groups with links to al Qaeda and a history of grooming guerrillas to attack security forces. India and Pakistan last month announced a peace initiative on disputed Kashmir. General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's president, said his country would not allow terrorist training on its soil. However, Indian and US intelligence agencies claim to have surveillance photographs and intercepted signals which show that between 60 and 70 camps are still in use. Some which were closed after the September 11 attacks on the US have also been reactivated. Pakistani authorities have arrested hundreds of al Qaeda suspects, including Abu Zubaydah, its top recruiting officer, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, chief of operations, and Ramzi Binalshibh, paymaster of the September 11 hijackers. US officials suspect that Pakistan's inter-services intelligence agency, which created and fostered the Taliban movement in Afghanistan, has not broken all its Islamic links with terrorist organisations. FBI agents last year arrested 11 men, including nine US citizens, for involvement in what became known as "the Virginia jihad". All were accused of engaging in terrorist training at camps run by Lashkar-e-Taiba. Six have since pleaded guilty. Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, Pakistan's ambassador to the US, yesterday denied the existence of any terrorist camps in his country or in Pakistan-controlled Kashmir. In Ukraine yesterday, the foreign ministry denied reports that scientists had sold nuclear weapons to al Qaeda. Markian Lubkiyvskyi, a spokesman, said Ukraine had transferred all its nuclear weapons to Russia by June 1, 1996.

[Mr. Mojo]

Yeah, I used to post that map all the time around here.

The Islamist vermin infest all the major cities, and often used mosques as fronts for their terrorist ops.

[A. Patriot]

LOL, I was thinking the same myself, only we're in Vermont. As much as people bash on Vermont politics/politicians (and with good reason), we still have some of the loosest gun laws on the books and there are a huge proportion of people up here who are armed to the teeth.

I keep forgetting that there are places in the North where people hunt, own guns and are not Ted Kennedy liberals. I was born in Massachusetts and still have the bad taste in my mouth. (moved South 30 years ago)

[expatpat]

It's an English national newspaper, been around for many years, but without a big circulation.

[metesky]

I'm more worried that the reaction will be, "we brought it on ourselves", "we deserved it", "we had it coming", etc.

That might well be the reaction from our friends in the media and academia, but it won't be the reaction of the "American street".

[angkor]

... the one event they really love was that street-fighting takeover in Vietnam ...that if the islamic fascists do something here, they will pattern it after that, because in their opinion it was a huge weakness for us.

I think you're referring to Tet 1968. If that's the case, it's worth noting that the Vietcong (who conducted the offensive, as opposed to the North Vietnamese Army regulars) were decimated.

Sure, they got onto the U.S. Embassy grounds and held it for a few hours, but in the end they were slaughtered.

By all accounts General Giap was in a big funk about it until he heard that Walter Cronkite had pronounced that "we have lost the war in Vietnam."

[Revolting cat!]

Terrorists ready for holy war in 40 American states

I ain't worried none, since I hang my hat in one of the remaining 12 states!

[CGVet58]

Just read Larry Bond's "The Enemy Within" - where terrorists play upon racial and ethnic divisions to soon have America stunned by internal strife, requiring the deployment of military units within CONUS to augment local law enforcement efforts.

[Bobibutu]

Some people just don't conceive that this could happen.

[Bobibutu]

"It seems to me that the border agents that examine their passports, visas, etc should change their mindset from asking "Is there any reason I should not allow this person in?" to "Is there a cause great enough for me to allow this person in?". But I'll not hold my breath...."

Nor I - our hard working and dedicated B'Patrol agents are hamstrung by our elected PC self-serving vote/money mongering overpaid backbiting officials .... we have met the enemy and he is us ... Pogo

[Bobibutu]

"the vanguard of a holy army estimated to be several hundred strong

This is supposed to impress?"

I'm going to guess here - you may not have studied or appreciate MST - Military Science and Tactics. A few well trained individuals can do exceptional things - the scene in Gladiator comes to mind - in the Arena - about to be slaughtered - Maximus asks - anyone here been the military? and they proceed to kick @ss as they follow his orders.

And these people are willing to loose their lives in their effort... I am impressed - you bet I am. How many did it take to murder 3000+ on 911? How many at Pearl Harbor? etc.

There is profound power in unity of purpose.

The odds of you being directly effected (killed/maimed) are slim. The odds of you being economicaly effected are great.

Do research on what a squad of Marines can do. And they want to stay alive.

[Bobibutu]

Thx for the laf

[Bobibutu]

"40 ignorant zenaphobes don't know that there is a rifle "behind every tree", and are preparing to die."

I took my dog for an "outback" walk today and did not see the rifle behind every tree - I had my B'rng 9mm with me tho.

[Bobibutu]

I don't know - start with RI

[Bobibutu]

"I bet Bush and our Intelligence knows this and are keeping a quiet watchful eye on them. I have faith in our President."

I have faith in our Prez and our intel community - lots of work going on and to do - they are the best! And are busting their humps.

[Bobibutu]

"So how much are these illegals going to cost us in SS monies and are they going to demand divers licenses and the right to vote?"

Get serious MAP - I know you can do better than that :-)

Besides we are already supporting them.

[Bobibutu]

rgr that

[Bobibutu]

"While the same time our own politicians are going out of their way to offer driver's licenses, and amensty plans to millions of others that are breaking our laws and entering our country illegally. Is it me, or is this absolute chaos."

V O T E ... them out!

[Cindy]

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[Bobibutu]

""However, Indian and US intelligence agencies claim to have surveillance photographs and intercepted signals which show that between 60 and 70 camps are still in use. Some which were closed after the September 11 attacks on the US have also been reactivated."

So what do we do? Will Pakistan prove to be a true ally, or not?

Do we wait for internal strikes, by people that plan to die anyway?

Do we pre-emptively fly into Pakistan, and get it started? "

Were I God - a Tac Nuke on each camp - welllllll maybe the MOAB on each camp - more PC - and then bulldose down the UN - now you know where I stand. (I know - we can't bulldoze down the UN Bldg... it willl take an explosive effort)

B