Vietnam Veterans AGAINST John F. Kerry

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com ^

[Phisher]

Sen. Kerry, the "noble statesman" and "highly decorated Vietnam vet" of today, is a far cry from Kerry, the radical, hippie-like leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) in the early 1970s.

Soon after Kerry, as a Navy Lieutenant (junior grade) commanding a Swift boat in Vietnam, was awarded the Silver Star, he used an obscure Navy regulation to leave Vietnam and his crew before completing his tour of duty.

After returing home, he quit the Navy early and changed the color of his politics to become a leader of VVAW. Kerry wasted no time organizing opposition in the United States against the efforts of his former buddies still ducking communist bullets back in Vietnam.

Kerry participated in the so-called Winter Soldier Investigation where his fellow protesters accused his fellow GIs of war crimes.

Kerry's betrayal of American prisoners of war, his blatant disrespect for the families of our missing in action, Vietnam veterans, the military, his support for communist Vietnam and his waffling over the issue of use of force in Iraq proves he is a self promoting Chameleon Senatorwho cannot be relied on to protect the best interests of the United States.

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[Phisher]

So like others have said, Kerry brought up Vietnam - It will be us who end it.

[nonliberal]

Kerry was in Vietnam?

</sarcasm

[eyespysomething]

he used an obscure Navy regulation to leave Vietnam and his crew before completing his tour of duty.

What's that? Does he think he is off-limits to questioning because he was actually in theater? I don't think so, Mr. Kerry.

Didn't Saddam try to bluff Bush?

[eyespysomething]

BTW- welcome to FR!

[Phisher]

Thank you,

I have actually read these forums everyday for almost a 1 1/2 years, but I never registered. My father was in Vietnam, and he is part of the Vets against Kerry. I thought it was too important not to let it go.

[admiralsn]

Thank your father on behalf of me and my family- for what he did back then, and for what he is doing now.

[expatpat]

See also the recent post about Giap saying that Kerry's group helped him defeat us:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1075645/posts

[GailA]

"I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a little-noticed contribution to a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061603.shtml

[eyespysomething]

Well God Bless your dad. My dad navigated B-52's in Vietnam. Sometimes I think he had it easier because he wasn't on the ground, but then again when you see the carpet bombing they did, which was/has been played and replayed since then, I wonder what he thought. He never did talk about it. Never. It all sucked IMO.

And the support they received at home! < /sarcasm>

And look, now we have good ol' patriotic, Hanoi John f'ing Kerry trying to tell us all about national security. No thanks.

[Phisher]

What I can't stand is how democrats scream that the media hasn't paid any attention to Bush - on a half-truth claimed. Meanwhile factual evidence of Kerry is getting brushed under the rug.

Hopefully Bush will be able to get these facts out there.

[PokeyJoe]

yeah, somebody needs to confront the John F'n Kerry campaign while riding a Harley, wearing a Vietnam era uniform, and throw fake medals in front of a FOX NEWS camera (they would be the only ones to show the event) =)

[clamper1797]

Vietnam Veterans against John Kerry

I'm one of them

[Ramtek57]

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

Kerry and his underlings give brag to his three purple hearts.

If there is one thing for sure, there are purple hearts, and there are puple hearts. Skin a knuckle due to enemy action, purle heart, lose a leg due to enemy action, purple heart.

Remember in the series "Band Of Brothers" during the hospital scene where the one kid was given three purple hearts for minor wounds. The G. I. in the next bed was belittling him for having no shame. He said you have three but he only has one. The he, was a poor bastard with his throat blown out. The one was for his grievious wound from which he would suffer until he died from it in 1948.

So point is, for what wounds did Mr. Kerry get his three purple hearts? Let us hear more than "I've got three of them" crap from the arsehole and his minions.

And by the by, any see the picture of the young Bush in the Air Force guard? ( http://www.seanet.com/~johnco/gw2.jpg )He was a cocky looking young'en, and he would no doubt have made one hell of a fighter pilot. It is my understanding that the F-102 fighter plane he flew was a very demanding and outright dangerous unforgiving craft.

Truth be known bush, and the other pilots of the F-102 were more of a hero just for flying the thing than Kerry finishing off some old man who had already recieved multiple hits from the .50 cal. from the boats gunner.

[Phisher]

Good point -- Many people still don't understand the military.

Case in point, the word 'casualty'.

The average person believes casualty is 'Killed in Action' or dead.

CNN for about a week started listing all the wounded soldiers as Casualties, correct in doing so. But why did they switch their vocabulary.

Casualty represents those who are killed or wounded, we call them a 'Casualty of War'. But I promise you if you ask your co-workers (Granted they have no military background) they will think 'killed in action'.

At least that is what I have found.

[BigSkyVic]

its like Rush and Michael Savage have brought up recently...that certain segments of the Clinton generation are trying to recreate that "feeling" of the "60's....the anti-war, anti-establishment..so here is Kerry trying to fill that void and have people rally around him...but its a dying cause. I really support the vet's in this issue as my brother was in Da Nang in 68-69 and if he was alive today he would have choice words for this Kerry fellow.

[SAMWolf]

he used an obscure Navy regulation to leave Vietnam and his crew before completing his tour of duty.

It's sure be interesting to know how many other Sailors used this regulation to cut their tour short.

[Wolverine]

Email from a friend

 

Kerry Discussion: Thoughts of a Vietnam POW

by Joe Crecca

28 Jan 04


The rigors and hardships of being a POW aside, I remember the so-called, "Peace Movement," and "Peace Marches and Rallies" that were taking place back home in the USA Our captors were more than willing, within their means, to provide us with any and all anti-US and anti-Vietnam War propaganda. Without a choice in the matter, we listened to the "Voice of Vietnam" broadcasts by, "Hanoi Hannah" and were shown newspaper and magazine photos and articles about those opposing the war back in the States. One of the peace marchers’ standard slogans was to, "Bring our boys home now and, alive." The warped thinking of such people was that by demonstrating against US involvement in Vietnam, they'd be shortening the war and reducing the number of American casualties. These demonstrators would also try to make one believe that their efforts would bring POWs like me home sooner. They were utterly wrong on both counts not to mention the detrimental effect their actions had on the morale of our troops and our POWs.

John F. Kerry was not just one of these demonstrators. He was leading them.

Therefore, these so-called demonstrations for peace had the exact opposite effect of what they were purporting to accomplish. Instead of shortening the war the "So-called Peace Movement" served only to protract the conflict resulting in a vastly greater number of Americans killed and wounded, greater economic burdens and longer periods of incarceration for Americans held captive in Vietnam. The war would have been over much sooner and with a much more favorable result if those in the "So-called Peace Movement" would have instead rallied behind the Commander-in-Chief to accomplish our mission and then, withdraw.

It is inescapable to think of the so-called peace movement and the antiwar demonstrators without also thinking how many fewer names there would now be engraved into the black granite of the Vietnam Wall if these same people had supported our efforts instead of trying to derail them. After all, fighting against a political regime that up to that time had murdered over a hundred million people couldn't have been all bad. But, John F. Kerry thought and acted differently. How many more names on the wall can he take credit for?

After the war ended, some of the war protesters hung on to their antiwar postures for a while. Some of them realized the errors of their ways almost immediately while for others it took twenty to twenty-five years. >p> But some, like John F. Kerry have not realized there was anything wrong with what he did. Instead, he hopes we will see him as a courageous Vietnam veteran. I do not. He hopes we will admire his bravery. I do not. I remember him more for his misdeeds upon his return from Vietnam.

However, in the present political arena, he evidently has succeeded in gaining the support of some well-meaning but misled Americans. Given his past record, it is just astonishing that he has garnered any support from our nation's veterans.

I hope all will reconsider their support for Senator Kerry in light of his actions which were so detrimental to our Vietnam combat soldiers, sailors and airmen many of whom are not here today to tell you themselves.

Thank you for considering my views. Please share what I have written with your fellow vets....

Joe Crecca
Vietnam POW
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