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Report: Diet Doctor Atkins Was Obese
Yahoo/AP ^ | 2/10/2004 | AP

Posted on 02/10/2004 6:51:53 AM PST by ClintonBeGone

NEW YORK - Dr. Robert Atkins, whose popular diet stresses protein-rich meat and cheese over carbohydrates, weighed 258 pounds at his death and had a history of heart disease, a newspaper reported Tuesday.

Atkins died last April at age 72 after being injured in a fall on an icy street.

Before his death, he had suffered a heart attack, congestive heart failure and hypertension, The Wall Street Journal reported, citing a report by the city medical examiner.

At 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites)'s body-mass index calculator.

Diet is one potential factor in heart disease, but infections also can contribute to it.

Stuart Trager, chairman of the Atkins Physicians Council in New York, told the Journal that Atkins' heart disease stemmed from cardiomyopathy, a condition thought to result from a viral infection.

Atkins' weight was due to bloating associated with his condition, and he had been much slimmer during most of his life, Trager said.

The medical examiner's report was given to the Journal by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, a group that advocates vegetarianism. The medical examiner's office told the Journal that the report had been sent to the group in error.

There was no immediate response Tuesday to a call seeking additional comment from the medical examiner's office.

The diet guru's widow, Veronica Atkins, was outraged that the report had been made public.

"I have been assured by my husband's physicians that my husband's health problems late in life were completely unrelated to his diet or any diet," she told the Journal.

Last month, Veronica Atkins demanded an apology from Mayor Michael Bloomberg after Bloomberg called her late husband "fat."

In April 2002, Atkins issued a statement saying he was recovering from cardiac arrest related to a heart infection he had suffered from "for a few years." He said it was "in no way related to diet."


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To: Lael
It's probably the former as you prevent the body from being subject to those stresses for 20 or 30 years. Although it is an interesting question.
121 posted on 02/10/2004 9:17:20 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: Richard Kimball
>>Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine<<

PETA front group. They want people to eat vegetarian, and the science is immaterial. It's more like a religion, without the faith or the deity.

DK
122 posted on 02/10/2004 9:17:22 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: Sabatier
It really allows you to concentrate without that constant Homer Simpson feeling of "MMMM...Donut!":)

LOL Yup.

123 posted on 02/10/2004 9:18:11 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: ClintonBeGone
He died of a heart attack because the lack of FRESH vitamin C via orange juice clogged up his arteries.
124 posted on 02/10/2004 9:18:43 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Saddam Hussein was only 537 Florida votes away from still being in power)
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To: CurlyDave
Yesterday Dr. Dean Edell said on the radio that by curent BMI standards Arnold would be considered "obese".

Is Dr Dean off his circumcision soap box?

125 posted on 02/10/2004 9:19:27 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: dogbyte12
Good for you Dogbyte and your positive statements. I started Atkin's in January of last year and weighed in at 243 at 6'2". I now am at 205 with waist at 35" and going for 34" waist at 200 so that will put me at 15% fat to lean. It can be done and it is easy once your mind has been set to the task. I deplore the attacks on Atkin's and one has to think that, following the loss of income to sugar and flour food suppliers, they can only strike back by innuendo and lies.
126 posted on 02/10/2004 9:19:38 AM PST by drdemars (Each moment I live a healthy life)
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To: ClintonBeGone
His diet helped me get rid of (most of) that stubbon spare tire. I can actually see my abs again :)

127 posted on 02/10/2004 9:22:36 AM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: tracer
A stenosed corornary or carotid artery + a blood clot or fragment of an arterial plaque == goodbye dogbyte12 + a sad thread on the FR.

LOL you are very good at making a point. Very good advise. Just curious, say he (or someone) did have excessive arterial plaque and discovered that in a pre-exercise physical. Does that mean he'll never be able to exercise, or do they just put him on some anti-lipid med and monitor him?

128 posted on 02/10/2004 9:23:26 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/~clintonbegone/">Hero</font></a>)
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To: oldironsides
gallbladders--

High association with weight and weight loss, "Fat, Fair, Fertile, Female and Forty"--

For a while they tried to pin gallbladder disease on Atkins, but since a lot of overweight people get it, and a lot of people who've LOST weight get it, they couldn't make it stick.

129 posted on 02/10/2004 9:23:58 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: GreatEconomy
But I really have a hard time accepting this diet as healthy.

I know nothing about diets. I've never been on one, and don't plan on going on one. But this one actually makes sense to me in some respects.

Early man was a hunter/gatherer. That means that a great deal of his food intake came from meat and animal products, and from relatively low carb foods such as wild vegetables and fruit. The carb explosion didn't really happen until our ancestors became farmers and started growing grains and high-carb vegetables like potatoes. And of course, there really wasn't a lot of sugar around until recently. To me -- and this is just pure layperson babbling -- this suggests that we evolved to handle a high meat, high fat, low carb diet.

One slightly less theoretical bit of support for this is some of the cultures in Africa. I've been to Tanzania and seen how the native Masai still live. They live almost entirely off animal products, like milk and meat. Not much cultivation at all. A high protein, high fat, low carb diet. And they all looked like some pretty healthy people.

Anyway, this is just unsupported opinion. But in terms of a "gut reaction" to whether this diet is crazy, I think its worthwhile considering the foods on which our ancestors survived.

130 posted on 02/10/2004 9:26:01 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: ClintonBeGone
I'm sorry but 258 pounds for a six foot tall person is nowhere near obese. Fat, sure, but not obese.
131 posted on 02/10/2004 9:26:23 AM PST by Some hope remaining.
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To: MNLDS
fruit--

Cantaloupe, berries, kiwis, tomatoes--depends how many carbs you can have. If you are just starting, you really have to watch the first few weeks.

I remember my carb-driven appetite in the beginning weeks--wow. My whole orientation toward foods is completely different.

132 posted on 02/10/2004 9:28:22 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Pukin Dog
I am not wrong about what a body-building diet consists of.

I am a competitive body builder and have done it many times [drug free] and won countless awards and titles.

At no time is a bodybuilder to go carb free. Not 12 weeks out. Not 8 weeks out. Not 4 weeks out. Not one week out.

I have had to drop to 100 grams per DAY the last week before a contest to hit my weight. And everybody thought I was nuts. I did hit my weight and win second place in a regional show, but still I could not get a pump backstage to save my life.

A standard, basic bodybuilder's diet at the end is chicken breast, broccli and red skinned potatoes seven times per day.

And FYI, eggs, even egg whites, are a no-no in the last stage of the diet because of the high sodium content.

And carbing up does not take place two days before a contest. Only the night before and the morning of a contest.

Elite Bodybuilders...eliminate ALL carbs for the last 2-3 months before a show

That is pure bs. And since the most 'elite' bodybuilders are on 'roids, this is especially untrue. They can consume many more calories than a natural bodybuilder because of the drugs.

133 posted on 02/10/2004 9:30:30 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Ladysmith
see post 110
134 posted on 02/10/2004 9:30:54 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Ladysmith
oops. meant 129
135 posted on 02/10/2004 9:32:15 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: fnord
I found that here
136 posted on 02/10/2004 9:32:59 AM PST by Sabatier
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To: mabelkitty
"And why is the Federal Government subsidizing Lucky Charms and other sugar coated cereals that cost $5.00 for a 14 oz box? ....Subsidizing via the WIC programs."

WIC covers Special K, Cheerio, Corn Flakes, etc. Frosted mini wheats is the only sugar coated one covered. The reason behind the increase in obesity (especially in low income families) is due to the governments food pyramid. Breads/cereals are the largest part of it. Yes, I do think that the processed foods are not that good for you. If you look at the Amish, they have low amounts of obesity due to having diets similar to the Atkins diet.
138 posted on 02/10/2004 9:34:32 AM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
This is nowhere near the Atkins Diet of no carbs.

Ah. That would be the Atkins Diet of no carbs that doesn't exist, but those who don't know the Atkins diet keep inventing.

That one?

Dan

139 posted on 02/10/2004 9:35:11 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: cupcakes
"I know those on Atkins will refuse to look into this, but you really should be concerned about this. Obviously his wife would not want this out, but she is also milking profits from things related to his diet."

How about the belief that medical history is personal. Does HIPAA ring a bell?
140 posted on 02/10/2004 9:35:54 AM PST by looscnnn (Tell me something, it's still "We the people", right? -- Megadeth (Peace Sells))
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