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Gun Groups Boycott NY After Mayor Bashes NRA
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 2/10/04 | Melanie Hunter

Posted on 02/10/2004 3:01:14 AM PST by kattracks

CNSNews.com) - Two gun rights groups have canceled plans to hold their annual conference in New York City, citing Mayor Michael Bloomberg's denunciation of the National Rifle Association as "reprehensible."

The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) and the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) announced Monday that they will take their 2005 Gun Rights Policy Conference somewhere else.

The conference, which provides over $500,000 in revenue to hotels, restaurants and other businesses, draws hundreds of attendees over a three-day period.

"Mayor Bloomberg's low opinion about the NRA, as reported in the current issue of New York Magazine, is an insult to all firearms civil rights organizations," said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb.

"If that's what the mayor thinks, we'll hold our conference in a city that is safer, and more hospitable to citizens who support all civil rights, including the right to own firearms and to hold opinions that Bloomberg finds so disagreeable," Gottlieb added.

The Republic National Committee plans to hold its national convention in New York on Aug. 30-Sept. 3. City Councilwoman Gale Brewer plans to introduce a resolution calling on the RNC to denounce the NRA.

The controversy surrounding the NRA is due in part to a website created by the Brady Campaign to End Gun Violence that compiles quotes made by NRA leaders. Brewer is also opposed to the NRA's policy goals.

"It's a shame," said CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron, "that the RNC couldn't relocate its convention, too. I'm certain there are many Republican delegates headed to New York who firmly believe in the Second Amendment and in the goals of those organizations that defend firearms owners' rights on a daily basis."

"Given the apparent atmosphere of social bigotry that seems to exist in the New York mayor's office and council chambers," Gottlieb said, "we simply have no choice but to find another location for our 2005 conference. The annual GRPC is attended by NRA officials and devoted NRA members, and we consider an insult to them to also be an insult directed at us, as well.

"We will make every effort to advise the hundreds of thousands of our members and supporters about this affront to their beliefs, and encourage them to spend their vacation time, and their money, in more friendly surroundings," he concluded.

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To: upchuck
"We live in unsettling times."

Indeed we do.
21 posted on 02/10/2004 5:50:44 AM PST by ought-six
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To: tbpiper
"I've read the proposal, have you? I can't seem to find the word amnesty used it the context of the offer at all. Do you have a workable plan to deal with 10 million or so illegals?"

Yeah, I've read it. It is an amnesty. When criminals are forgiven their crimes with not only no punishment ever imposed, but rewards given, as well, that spells amnesty.
22 posted on 02/10/2004 5:53:01 AM PST by ought-six
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To: risk
tbpiper is an enabler for the illegals. He appears to be one of their biggest advocates.
23 posted on 02/10/2004 5:54:28 AM PST by ought-six
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To: tbpiper
They fail to recognize that Bush is the first President to actually address this issue.

Actually, I think during Reagan's presidency, there was a general amnesty. Along with that amnesty were promises to tighten border security. Worked real well back then, didn't it?

24 posted on 02/10/2004 5:58:02 AM PST by ibheath (Born-again and grateful to God for it.)
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To: tbpiper
"You're going to need 18,181 max capcity 747 sorties or 181,818 Greyhound bus sorties once you get all 10 million centrally located."

GO FOR IT!!!! I'm willing to pay my share.

"Or if you prefer, do a little research into 20th century German history and figgure out a way to use rail cars."

That'd work too (but your thinly veiled linkage to Nazi atrocity won't fly).

"Not only is it a logistics nightmare, it's also damaging to our national soul."

BULL****!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is "damaging to our national soul" is TOLERATING DEFIANCE OF OUR LAWS!!!!!!!! (and yes, I "am" yelling).

"As far as locating the illegals, just what do you think the guest worker permits would do. It gives us the ability to find and identify the illegals in an orderly manner without resorting to SWAT team tactics."

I've got no problem with ANY legal system of immigration control, as long as it involves NO amnesty for ANY current illegal here in defiance of our laws.

"Part of the proposal was to get congress to strengthen border control measures to prevent further incursions. A lot of people miss that part and jump rigth on the mythical amnesty offer."

No problem with improving border control, but it should also include provisions and funding to INCREASE LOCATION AND DEPORTATION of current illegals.

"Some people complain as if all 10 million of them came in after the 2000 elections.."

I don't give a flying damn WHEN they came---if they are here illegally, then they should be arrested and deported----PERIOD. And, no, Virginia--"arrest'em and deport'em" is NOT a "knee jerk response"---it is simply WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES.

You know, that bunch of little societal rules that we are ALL supposed to follow.

If "I" am expected to follow the rules of this country, then I expect the same of anyone and everyone else here--be they citizen or immigrant. Certanly this is what is require of US when we go inside THEIR borders.

25 posted on 02/10/2004 6:20:38 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: kattracks
Somebody should introduce a resolution calling for the RNC to denounce Bloomy as being reprehensible
26 posted on 02/10/2004 6:33:07 AM PST by beware of dog
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To: Wonder Warthog
Do we feel better better now after our little cathartic yell? I'm not impressed with your volume, it doesn't enhance your argument a bit. (but your thinly veiled linkage to Nazi atrocity won't fly).

It would be ok with you if we rounded up and transported the illegals the same way the Nazis rounded up and transported the Jews. If you don't think that kind of jackbooted enforcement of our laws wouldn't damage our souls then you haven't any understanding of human nature nor a decent grasp of history.

In Iraq, we've been exercising the disciplined use of deadly force. I see from your yelling that this kind of disciplined use of authority is to be entrusted to your care. You don't have a reasonable grasp to the scope of the problem nor the necessary forethought to address it without creating a mess. Yell all you want if it helps your angst level but go back an read the proposal and really think this time.

27 posted on 02/10/2004 6:51:30 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper
...a good start would be to enforce existing laws.

Given the scope of the problem, just how would you do that. You are going to have to think past platitudes.

I don't really want to start a holy war or anything, but do you have the same attitude towards the War on (some) Drugs?

28 posted on 02/10/2004 7:23:35 AM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: jmc813
I swear, I'm this close to donating money to the Dem running against Bloomberg. That's how much I hate him.

Bloomberg is a liberal Democrat. Worse, he is a secular "Jew" along the lines of Schumer and Feinstein (which means he is a phony Jew). See this list of famous Jews which contains a few real Jews (such as Benjamin Netanyahu), and many, many phony ones.

29 posted on 02/10/2004 7:51:40 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: tbpiper
Yea, I do.

Round them up and deport them.

Every single one.

L

30 posted on 02/10/2004 7:53:44 AM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
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To: tbpiper
"They fail to recognize that Bush is the first President to actually address this issue."

Wrong.

L

31 posted on 02/10/2004 7:55:02 AM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
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To: tbpiper
Your comparison to the Nazi regime is a phony one.

Noone here advocates mass murder off illegal immigrants. We just want them to return to their country of origin and then attempt to return legally.

If they refuse to return voluntarily, then they need to be deported. I don't care how many Greyhound busses it takes.

By your logic, it's sheer numbers that determine whether or not a law should be enforced. Thinking like that means we should be releasing every single person in prison for drug crimes. After all, there's millions of them, aren't there?

Let's give them a 'guest doper' pass.

Geez, no wonder the Republican Party has the handle of "The Stupid Party."

L

32 posted on 02/10/2004 7:59:42 AM PST by Lurker (Don't bite the hand that meads you.)
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To: Lurker
Wrong.

Now hold on. I know this is going to be tough, but if someone addressed the problem before Bush....how come it's a problem now? You 'round em up and deport em' types ought to learn to think a little deeper.

33 posted on 02/10/2004 8:01:07 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: upchuck
We should invite them down here. Charlotte or Columbia or Roanoke would be great cities with lots of good support.
34 posted on 02/10/2004 8:01:57 AM PST by TaxRelief (Nov. 2nd is a great day to take a personal day to help watch the voting booth!)
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To: tbpiper
Are you an illegal Israeli immigrant?
35 posted on 02/10/2004 8:23:32 AM PST by Critter (What's wrong with being a rodent, anyway?)
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To: Betteboop
"Rudy, bless him, was a very liberal Republican."

Yeah, I know he was pro-abort, and liberal in other ways, (like any liberal Republican), but at least he was tough on crime and had a better grasp on reality than most NYC Mayors that I've seen.....

36 posted on 02/10/2004 8:54:32 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is a war room".)
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To: Critter
Are you an illegal Israeli immigrant?

Oi Vei!

37 posted on 02/10/2004 9:00:09 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: kattracks
Bloomberg is NO Republican. He's not even a RINO.

He's a Democrat who registered as a Republican so he could run for mayor.

I don't care if he IS married. He sounds like a whinning pansy to me.

Besides, he will be a one term mayor. Even his left-wing fruitcake constituents hate him.
38 posted on 02/10/2004 9:03:05 AM PST by ZULU (GOD BLESS SENATOR JOE MCCARTHY!!!)
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To: risk
"What's wrong with deportation?"

"deportation" Texans must have a hard time pronouncing the word. I've never heard our President use the word.

39 posted on 02/10/2004 10:13:30 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Dear Mr. President, Sir, Are you listening to the voters?)
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To: *bang_list
Bang
40 posted on 02/10/2004 10:17:20 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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