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Could Vietnam win the White House for Kerry?
guardian.co.uk ^ | Tuesday February 3, 2004 | Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 02/06/2004 10:09:00 AM PST by Destro

Could Vietnam win the White House?

A tearful reunion with a former comrade revived John Kerry's presidential bid, fellow veterans have flocked to support him and now campaign adverts show him in full combat gear. Why does Vietnam still exert such power over American voters? Suzanne Goldenberg reports

Tuesday February 3, 2004

The Guardian

Making of a hero ... Lieutenant John Kerry (second from left) with the crew of his gunboat on the Mekong River in 1969

It was March 13 1969, and the US army Green Beret was running out of breath after diving five times beneath the surface of the Bay Hap river, to escape Vietnamese sniper fire from its banks. From downriver, he heard a gunboat approach. A US navy lieutenant, who had already been hit in the arm, exposed himself to fire once more to haul the Green Beret over the bow and to safety. Half a lifetime later, Jim Rassman, the erstwhile Green Beret, is a paunchy, retired police official who grows orchids for a hobby. Memories of that day are seared for ever in his brain. "He could have been shot and killed at any time, and so could I. So I figure I probably owe this man my life," he says.

More than 30 years later, Rassman had his chance to repay the debt. The navy man was John Kerry, one of the contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination, and Rassman may have saved his political career. The registered Republican has emerged from quiet retirement in Oregon to put himself at the Kerry campaign's disposal. Their tearful reunion earlier this month - their first meeting since Vietnam - has transformed Kerry's fortunes.

Two days after the two Vietnam veterans embraced at a campaign rally, the caucus goers of Iowa delivered a stunning victory to Kerry, confounding those who had declared his campaign dead. Two weeks later, the senator from Massachusetts is either the frontrunner or up there competing in all seven of the states holding their primaries today, and the pundits are now wondering if he is unstoppable.

It is possible to argue that Kerry's entire career is contained in the arc between those encounters in the treacherous waters of the Mekong Delta and the frozen plains of Iowa. It is also possible to argue that Kerry, like tens of thousands of American men of his generation, never truly left Vietnam behind.

"The memories come back all of the time. We haven't forgotten any of this. For the last 30 years, we have just learned how to manage," says Rob Stenson, now 55. Stenson spent 13 months as ground crew at the Danang airforce base in central Vietnam, and is an active campaigner for veterans' benefits. "It's not a question of getting over it. You manage it," he says.

Some 3.5 million Americans served in Vietnam, and tens of millions more grew up in its shadow. But beyond the obvious centrality of Vietnam to an entire generation, there is a hard-edged practicality to Kerry's lifelong tribute to the months he spent in uniform.

He has told interviewers that he doubts he could have succeeded in politics without having served in Vietnam. The forced companionship with the raw recruits under his command was the Boston prep schoolboy's first exposure to ordinary Americans. After returning home a bona fide hero with a chestful of medals, Kerry completed his credentials by fighting for peace, testifying in Washington against the war in 1971, and leading a march of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. The testimony was the making of Kerry. The navy lieutenant was viewed by the Nixon White House as its most formidable anti-war opponent because it was understood that Kerry's impeccable war record would insulate him from charges of being an unpatriotic hippy.

At this time of inescapable parallels between a futile project to halt communism in south-east Asia, and a faltering attempt to remake the Middle East by going to war in Iraq, the current occupant of the White House harbours similar concerns.

As a wartime president, George Bush would rather not fight an election against a war hero - especially one whose Purple Hearts and Bronze and Silver Stars stand in contrast to his own experience. Republican operatives have indicated that they would rather Kerry did not emerge as the Democratic candidate, and rightwing commentators have begun to attack his service record and opposition to the war.

Unlike Kerry, Bush never went to war: family connections earned the future president a coveted position in the Texas air national guard. But even that sinecure eventually proved too taxing; a number of recent books suggest that he could have been absent without authorisation for as long as eight months.

But Kerry is more than his wartime record - as Democratic rival, General Wesley Clark, has discovered. Although Clark also served with distinction in Vietnam, he did not share Kerry's misgivings about the war. Those doubts, which Kerry expressed to the Senate foreign relations committee in 1971, have enabled him years later to reconnect with the men of his damaged generation. In later life, as a senator, Kerry joined fellow veteran and Republican John McCain to try to resolve the haunting issue of American MIAs, and to bring about reconciliation with Vietnam.

Some of these activities were controversial. Among the small but vocal minority who believe that some Americans remained in secret captivity in Vietnam, Kerry is seen as a traitor for leaving men behind. Other veterans bridle still at Kerry's testimony to the Senate, in which he said that US soldiers had committed rape, murder and torture, and ravaged the countryside of south Vietnam. Alternate versions of those heady days of the anti-war movement also portray Kerry as an opportunist who launched on to their protests for personal gain.

But one fact was indisputable. Kerry had established a connection with his generation, and that connection, in turn, could now win him the presidency. The reappearance of Rassman was merely the start. As the campaign went on, dozens of other vets attached themselves to the Kerry campaign as volunteers and a number who fought alongside him, made campaign appearances.

At this point, it is difficult to imagine Kerry's candidacy without Vietnam. His campaign ads include clips of a war-era Kerry walking along in fatigues and helmet, and testimony from his gunboat crew. The message is simple: "When the bullets began to hit the side of the boat, the boom, the pow, pow, pow, we found out that John Kerry can lead," says one of his crew.

Veterans involved with the Kerry campaign say there is a psychic bond that cannot be easily explained. "He is in effect the spokesman for our generation," says Max Cleland, another icon of that war, who has campaigned for Kerry in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. "In a strange way, it's a delayed reaction. Thirty-five years later, we have someone who speaks our language, who understands the issues of war, peace and readjustment, and who understands the tragedy of war."

Cleland, a former senator from Georgia, lost both legs and his right arm to a grenade while serving in Vietnam in 1967. He struggles to define what it is that tugs at the veterans who have signed on to the Kerry campaign. "It's a brotherhood of suffering - something so deep and painful that it goes beyond words."

The hunger to find meaning shows no sign of abating. The Fog of War, the recently released documentary on Robert McNamara, tries - and fails - to get the former secretary of defence to come to terms with America's role in the cold war. Late last year, the Toledo Blade exposed an atrocity that ranks alongside the infamous My Lai massacre: the killing of hundreds of south Vietnamese villagers by the 101st Airborne Division.

"I think it will remain an issue with the post-war baby boom generation as long as it is alive," says David Maraniss, author of They Marched Into Sunlight: War and Peace, Vietnam and America, October 1967.

If anything, Maraniss says, Vietnam has become even more central to those who fought there. During the past five years, Vietnam veterans who had been silent for decades have begun to seek out their former comrades over the internet. He attributes the interest in revisiting the war to a realisation of mortality among a generation now approaching retirement. "Whenever I write anything about that period, I get calls from people all over this country, men who see something I have written and just need someone to talk to, even a reporter," Maraniss says.

Others say that the Iraq war is also a significant factor. Sydney Schanberg, the former New York Times reporter who became famous for his account of Cambodia's Killing Fields, believes the parallels between Iraq and Vietnam are inescapable. Both conflicts are futile; both expose the mendacity of governments. "The most important reason it resonates ... is that Iraq - though hardly analogous, nothing is ever perfectly analogous - has got the same broad template," says Schanberg. "You send men into a strange region where they don't speak the language, and they cannot tell automatically or easily who the friend is and who the foe is, and there are people trying to get at them, shooting at them right through the night.

"They are now learning, if they haven't learned, that their government either lied or distorted information in order to get public support to go to war."

Kerry's learning curve began even before he left for Vietnam. According to a lengthy biographical series in the Boston Globe last summer, he was already entertaining doubts about the war by the time he enlisted. He chose the navy because he believed he would be safe and because he liked the parallels with another Bostonian: John F Kennedy, who parlayed a career as a navy hero into the presidency.

But by December 1968, when Kerry arrived for his first tour in-country, the navy gunboats were being used for dangerous missions up the Mekong Delta. Kerry saw so much action that he was able to win an early transfer home soon after rescuing Rassman.

By 1971, when he appeared before the Senate foreign relations committee, Kerry was on his way to becoming a star. "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam?" Kerry asked the committee. "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

In Kerry's New Hampshire headquarters last month, where a half-dozen greying Vietnam veterans were manning the phones and reconnecting, it was remembered as the former navy lieutenant's finest hour. At least so far.


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To: SAMWolf

YOU GOT IT!

That is a great political bumper sticker.
81 posted on 02/07/2004 11:44:39 PM PST by WOSG (Support Tancredo on immigration. Support BUSH for President!)
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To: Destro
Are they like you in that their senses are telling them Bush may lose (because he distanced himself from the conservative wing) while their hearts refuse to admit such a possibility?

Dr. Destro, I have never been psychoanalyzed so accurately (or at such a distance). This is exactly what is going through what's left of my once-fine 1950's brain. The only chance Bush has could come down to a scenario in which the Democrats will come up with a ticket that most Americans find repulsive. But after Al Gore, even that seems a toss-up.

They (the Republicans) won't even take vote fraud seriously, even though it cost them the electoral votes of 5 states in 2000. Bush is leaving himself wide open to a no-show Republican vote because of his flagrant spending on the one hand, and this asinine "Shamnesty" on the other. Yes, Dr. Destro. I am starting to see signs of the Republicans preparing to snatch an inglorious defeat (again) from the jaws of an easy victory.

82 posted on 02/08/2004 6:58:20 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Kenny Bunk
Probably because in your posts on the subject I saw my own feelings reflected.
83 posted on 02/08/2004 9:09:19 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
"Arnold was a traitor and Kerry is not a traitor no matter how partisan you want to make it. What you are doing now is smearing - a Clintonian tactic. I do not support Kerry but I do not need to become a shrill cog in the smear campaign and stoop to that level."

I dont think it is shrill to point out that Kerry stepped over the line from mere dissent to genuine unfair anti-American attacks on our military. You use the word "smear" - it apropros because John Kerry smeared the US military.

In 1971, John Kerry became a leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War protest group.
Kerry testified to Congress that Americans in Vietnam had "personally raped, cut off ears,
cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the
power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages,
shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the
countryside of South Vietnam." He testified, "We all did it." He said his claims
were "not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the
full awareness of officers at all levels of command."

He accused fellow veterans of being war criminals, but this awful charge
was based on trumped on stories. In his book "Stolen Valor," B.G. Burkett points
out that Mr. Kerry liberally used phony veterans to testify to atrocities
they could not possibly have committed.

Kerry publicly supported Hanoi's position to use our POWs as a bargaining chip
in negotiations for a peace agreement. Kerry threw what appeared to be his medals
over a fence in front of the Capitol building in protest, on camera of course,
but was caught in his lie years later when his medals turned up displayed on his office wall.

The navy lieutenant was viewed by the Nixon White House as its
most formidable anti-war opponent because it was understood that
Kerry's impeccable war record would insulate him from charges of
being an unpatriotic hippy. And yet the group that he allied himself with
was in fact quite radical. They desired the victory of Hanoi in this war. It is not a stretch to call the group, or to call others like "Hanoi" Jane Fonda, traitors. Kerry's war service was a cover, a stage prop,
a useful shield to deflect criticism of how damaging his words and actions were to others who served honorably.
84 posted on 02/08/2004 9:51:53 AM PST by WOSG (Support Tancredo on immigration. Support BUSH for President!)
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To: WOSG
This is not Central American country and our military does not enjoy untouchable protected status. Were our founding fathers traitors because they publicly stated that a standing army was a danger to the republic? Were they traitors for making such a smear? Whatever word you want to use to describe Kerry's remarks - slander - liable - stupid - etc. it is not treason - not even remotly so.
85 posted on 02/08/2004 10:31:14 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Uh, no, Kerry won't win based on Vietnam. There are toooooo many of us with loud voices. Gesssshhh... what a funny question.
86 posted on 02/08/2004 10:35:06 AM PST by Cate (Bush is da' man.)
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To: Destro
Nice quote from Christopher Hitchens:

John Kerry should decide whether he's a moral hero for fighting in a futile and filthy war against the Vietnamese revolution, or for protesting against that war. Can I guess from his demeanor which of the two was his "noble cause"? No. Shouldn't I know by now? Yes, I should, since it's not evident at this relatively late date whether or not he's proud of voting to remove Saddam Hussein.

Kerry is trying to ride two horses at the same time and that's a feat he probably won't be able to pull off. Bush has to be careful how his people handle this thing, though: making Kerry's anti-war record a major issue will probably boomerang on Bush, because Kerry does have that war record.

Undecided voters may react strongly against Republicans' calling their attention to Kerry's 1970s radicalism too much. The question is whether enough voters will notice it on their own and draw the conclusion that Kerry is the wrong choice.

After Clinton, it's unwise to assume this -- if people really want change, they'll go with change in spite of the baggage the "agent of change" may be carrying, and if they really want to throw the incumbents out, there's very little in the challenger's record that will dissuade them, especially if it's already out in the open.

87 posted on 02/08/2004 11:41:18 AM PST by x
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To: x
Just fight smart. Throwing bomb shell words like traitor will not get us any votes or sympathy.
88 posted on 02/08/2004 11:51:23 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
"This is not Central American country and our military does not enjoy untouchable protected status."

Boy what spin. Kerry went far beyond mere critique, he slandered the military viciously. He spoke of "crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command." No institution in America is untouchable. But anyone who describes any institution in terms like that has made that institution to be an 'enemy'. Kerry described our US military as engaged in something evil and despicable, and spoke in terms that made our own military leaders out to be an evil crowd like a mafia and not our protectors.

"Whatever word you want to use to describe Kerry's remarks - slander - liable - stupid - etc. it is not treason - not even remotly so."

YES, remotely so... Kerry made slanders against our military that gave aid and comfort to the enemy that was North Vietnam and helped in the Communists' strategy to ultimately win the war. That is perhaps not treason itself but the closest relation you can come without giving away military secrets. These protestors and their lies did more to damage our military and America than spies could.

I will not use the term 'treason' to Kerry, especially in a political season where hyperbole just creates heat (eg lies about Bush like the "AWOL" canards, the lie that he "lied" about WMD, Iraq was about oil, etc.). It's more heat than light to use charged terms rather than simply reading the indictment and letting the facts speak for themselves.

But I will say this clearly: Kerry's own words condemn him. What Kerry did was wrong; it was reprehensible; it harmed America; it harmed unfairly our military; it helped lose Vietman. I dont see how such behavior, especially when he has never apologized for it, is acceptable in a man who wants to be President.
89 posted on 02/08/2004 12:31:47 PM PST by WOSG (Support Tancredo on immigration. Support BUSH for President!)
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To: WOSG
We should never have fought in Vietnam. Win or lose.
90 posted on 02/08/2004 5:13:22 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
You'd rather we didnt *win* the war in Vietnam? ... I guess you share Jimmy Carter's lunacy that it was all just an "inordinate fear of Communism" and just fine and dandy to hand Vietnam over to the Communists and Cambodia to Pol Pot and let the boat people problems fall where they may ?

hmmmm.

Whatever one's position, it never justifies slandering our military like Kerry did.

91 posted on 02/08/2004 7:51:33 PM PST by WOSG (Support Tancredo on immigration. Support BUSH for President!)
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To: Destro
The Kerry Juggernaut is rolling. The media-enabled PR campaign is moving on many fronts with a slick, highly-organized attack.

The campaign attacks GWB on his military service. Damage already done, cannot be undone.

Attacks deficit, combined with "Tax Cuts for the wealthy. "No jobs 'cause Bush stole the money to give to the wealthy."

Attacks "Lack of WMDS and twisting intelligence" to get us in the "War in Iraq."

Attacks Bush "Health Care Plan"

Put this together with tepid turnout from the right because of this damned amnesty and the wild spending, and you have a disaster in the making. It may well come down to Donna Brazile, Ed Rendell, and Mayor Daly stealing a key state or two.

92 posted on 02/08/2004 8:42:46 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: WOSG
No - if I had a time machine I would not fight the war period. If already engaged I would have supported the South Vietnamese with special forces and air support and when that failed (it did fail) I would cut our losses and run. Only Stalin and Hitler ordered their men to die without retreat. We lost Vietnam in the cold war. Move on down to a more defensable country or region. As it tursn out the domino theory turned out to be false.
93 posted on 02/08/2004 8:44:27 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Kenny Bunk
May I add that Kerry while not saying he is against "free trade" has made statements against the laws that make it easy to outsource jobs overseas, Boom! Kerry has the Blue Collars once also known as the Reagan Republicans.

So if I can play at being an analyst, what are classic conservatives to do? Bush flawed and Kerry is not our man? Ah yes!! Our last refuge - Divided govt. What may happen is that the conservative base stays home, votes for Republicans in the Senate and Congress and either Kerry for president or leaves that vote blank.

That is what I see may be happening.

94 posted on 02/08/2004 8:52:33 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
He gave comfort to the enemy through his words. Any American who calls his fellow soldiers war criminals is a traitor. He may not be charged as such, but he should at least get the label asa traitor. It is not dumbing it down. Would the word sedition sit better with you?
95 posted on 02/09/2004 6:05:31 AM PST by ohioman
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